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Pakistan’s default risk won’t subside until IMF comes aboard: Miftah

Dawn.com Published December 13, 2022 Updated about 2 hours ago




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<p>Former finance minister Miftah Ismail during an interview with Geo News. — screengrab</p>

Former finance minister Miftah Ismail during an interview with Geo News. — screengrab
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PML-N leader and former finance minister Miftah Ismail on Tuesday claimed that Pakistan’s default risk won’t subside until and unless the International Monetary Fund (IMF) came to the table.
“IMF is the lender of last resort […] and when it comes on board, other lenders like the World Bank and Asian Development Bank agree to provide us with loans.
“But if that connection with the IMF breaks or a programme is suspended then other loans stop as well and after that you can’t save Pakistan,” he said in an interview with journalist Shahzeb Khanzada on Geo News.
Pakistan entered a $6bn IMF programme in 2019 and its ninth review is currently pending with remote talks being held between IMF officials and the government for the release of $1.18bn.
Earlier, Dawn reported that Pakistan and IMF had had a round of engagement on November 18 but could not finalise a schedule for formal talks on the overdue ninth review.



The talks, originally due in the last week of October, were rescheduled to Nov 3 and then kept on facing delays following gaps in estimates by the two sides.
Earlier this month, incumbent Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said that he was not concerned whether the IMF team arrived or not for the ninth review, asserting that the IMF could “not dictate” the government.
Dar added that he had told the IMF that it was “behaving abnormally” in regard to dealing with Pakistan. “I have never taken dictation and never will from these institutions, I have to look after Pakistan’s interests.”
During the interview with Geo News today, Miftah — in contrast with Dar’s statement — said that “Pakistan has gone back into jeopardy and the situation won’t get better until IMF comes on the table”.
“When IMF gives you a loan, this means they are helping you out. But saying that the Fund is unreasonable […] we need to look at ourselves […] why did we go to IMF previously. Dealing with the IMF is not an easy task.”
He stressed that the country needed to do some things to bring the IMF mission to Pakistan, saying that funds from neighbouring countries could only last the country for so long.
In response to a question on the agreement reached with the IMF during his tenure as the finance minister, Miftah said that all the arrangements had been made before he was replaced with Dar.
“Qatar had promised $3bn, UAE had committed to $2bn and Saudi Arabia had promised $1bn. They had told this to IMF. Separately, our negotiations were underway with the World Bank and they too gave us a commitment along with ADB.
“But all of these agreements were subject to the IMF programme. But if IMF doesn’t come now, then none of this money will come,” Miftah warned, adding it was time Pakistan took some difficult decisions.



He reiterated that “if IMF doesn’t come then it will be very difficult to save ourselves from a default”.

Dar says Pakistan’s performance for IMF’s ninth review up to mark​

Meanwhile, in an appearance on SAMAA TV programme ‘Nadeem Malik Live’, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said that Pakistan’s performance criteria were up to the mark and “complete” for the IMF’s ninth review.
He said the IMF looked at the overall direction of a particular quarter, including structural reforms and fulfillment of conditionalities, which was “logical”.
Dar said Pakistan had eroded its credibility before the IMF due to the actions of the previous government and the Fund was asking for further information rather than just the current quarter. He expressed the thought that the IMF might combine the ninth and 10th reviews for the country due to the upcoming holidays.



“They want that we give them [data for the] whole fiscal year after working it out,” Dar said, adding that Pakistan was providing the information asked for.
The finance minister said the Fund was also asking questions about flood rehabilitation and where Pakistan would procure the funds for it, adding that it was “unfair” to do so.
“They’re basically asking about our financing plan] and we are also preparing it,” he added, saying that a “realistic picture” would be provided to the IMF.
To a question on whether the ninth and 10th reviews would be complete by January, Dar said the government was preparing for that and “we have to complete this task in the next few days.”

Pakistan seeking financial help from Saudi Arabia​

The finance minister also said that Pakistan was seeking financial help from Saudi Arabia which will include doubling the current deferred oil payment facility given by Riyadh to $2.4 billion per year.
“I have discussed both things (financial help and oil facilities) with the Saudi finance minister, and there are positive vibes from there. They said they will support us,” Dar said.
He said the government was in touch with Saudi authorities but did not give a time frame for the aid.
Dar also said that Islamabad was looking at purchasing discounted oil from Russia and that he had discussed the matter with officials from the US State Department back in October.
Dar said US officials had told him that a G7 pricing committee was being set up for Russian oil products and that there would be a price cap.
“[They said] you shouldn’t buy [oil] for above that, and I agreed,” he said.
 
Miftah seems to be silent on any way forward for Pakistan beyond borrowing more. Is it considered received wisdom now that the way forward for Pakistan is as an eternal borrower? Nobody has any idea of restructuring the country to put it on a path to solvency?
 
Miftah seems to be silent on any way forward for Pakistan beyond borrowing more. Is it considered received wisdom now that the way forward for Pakistan is as an eternal borrower? Nobody has any idea of restructuring the country to put it on a path to solvency?
no...no plans ... adhocism ... all is well for the next few days ...that is the level of competency of our bureaucracy and leadership.... a time will come when rich countries avoid meeting our PM and Presidents ..
 
I have given up both on Pakistan and Bangladesh. These two countries can never be fixed and have no future. One is under the capture of the military, and another is under the capture of the Awami League.

Once in a while, someone will come up with a blip and make a huge fuss about it:
  • e.g., nuclear bomb fuss, missile fuss, JF-17 fuss, etc.
After some time, everything will be back to normal:
  • e.g., corruption, poverty, sectarian fight, religious fight, low quality of life, etc.
In the meantime, other competitor countries will continue to progress ... ...
 
I have given up both on Pakistan and Bangladesh. These two countries can never be fixed and have no future. One is under the capture of the military, and another is under the capture of the Awami League.

Once in a while, someone will come up with a blip and make a huge fuss about it:
  • e.g., nuclear bomb fuss, missile fuss, JF-17 fuss, etc.
After some time, everything will be back to normal:
  • e.g., corruption, poverty, sectarian fight, religious fight, low quality of life, etc.
In the meantime, other competitor countries will continue to progress ... ...
Very unfair comparison. Pakistan, as currently constituted, has a "going concern" problem. i.e., no one knows how to run it without a continuous injection of funds from outsiders. When a finance minister with this expertise:
Ismail received his B.S. degree from Duquesne University in business studies in 1985, followed by a Ph.D degree in public finance and political economy from the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, in 1990. Ismail worked with the International Monetary Fund as an economist based in Washington, D.C. in the early 1990s.

Sees no path forward without the kindness of strangers, it is a basket case.

Bangladesh, in spite of many problems, is a nation full of hope and optimism. Nobody has argued that the only way forward for Bangladesh is kindness of strangers.
 
Very unfair comparison. Pakistan, as currently constituted, has a "going concern" problem. i.e., no one knows how to run it without a continuous injection of funds from outsiders. When a finance minister with this expertise:
Ismail received his B.S. degree from Duquesne University in business studies in 1985, followed by a Ph.D degree in public finance and political economy from the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, in 1990. Ismail worked with the International Monetary Fund as an economist based in Washington, D.C. in the early 1990s.

Sees no path forward without the kindness of strangers, it is a basket case.

Bangladesh, in spite of many problems, is a nation full of hope and optimism. Nobody has argued that the only way forward for Bangladesh is kindness of strangers.


And you know about Bangladesh more than I do, I guess?
May I know your place of living and place of birth?
 
And you know about Bangladesh more than I do, I guess?
May I know your place of living and place of birth?
Yes, I can read. I know a lot about sun and moon (and a bit about stars too) without ever being there.
 
action will be taken when gov stop paying salaries to civil servants and army

ڈرو اُس وقت سے جب آپ 100 کا لوڈ کروائیں گے اور میسج آئے گا "ملک کو معاشی بحران سے نکالنے کے لئے تعاون کا شکریہ"​
 
Yes, I can read. I know a lot about sun and moon (and a bit about stars too) without ever being there.

So, you mean every fact is out there for public consumption?
So, you mean you know about Bangladesh more than someone who works in Sheikh Hasina's office?
So, you mean knowing the sun and moon is the same as knowing the behavior and nature of politics and government in a country?

So, why don't they teach politics and government in the Faculty of Astrophysics?
 
So, you mean every fact is out there for public consumption?
So, you mean you know about Bangladesh more than someone who works in Sheikh Hasina's office?
So, you mean knowing the sun and moon is the same as knowing the behavior and nature of politics and government in a country?

So, why don't they teach politics and government in the Faculty of Astrophysics?
This https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/bangladesh/ is plenty good for me.
This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Bangladesh is more than most people need

I am quite confident, if I take up a job in Sheikh Hasina's office as a cabinet secretary, I will not learn as much. Sometimes, one has to stay away from the trees to see the forest.
 
jis din sa nai hakoomat ai ha dollar mazboot aor stock exchange opar gai ha
DJ ISPR
 
This https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/bangladesh/ is plenty good for me.
This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Bangladesh is more than most people need

I am quite confident, if I take up a job in Sheikh Hasina's office as a cabinet secretary, I will not learn as much. Sometimes, one has to stay away from the trees to see the forest.

Now I understand why arguing with you is a total waste of time.

Wikipedia pages regarding Bangladesh are all maintained by BAL-paid representatives. Try editing something controversial about BAL on BAL's page. It will be reverted in o time.

Also, 60% of Wikipedia contributors and users are from India.

How about Sheikh Hains paying a $450 million/month capacity charge to Gautam Adani? Do you know how many of that kinds of things are taking place in BD?

Do you know BD is at risk of going bankrupt as the reserve is depleted to a dangerous level and the current account deficit is very close to Pakistan?

> I am quite confident if I take up a job in Sheikh Hasina's office as a cabinet secretary, I will not learn as much. Sometimes, one has to stay away from the trees to see the forest.

How would you know that S Alam group is Sheikh Hasina's party accountant?
How do you know Hasina's son-in-law is in Dubai prison for embezzling billions of dollars?

Is this kind of info available in the CIA Factbook?
 
In dono nay apna kut khana shuru kia hua hai.

Aik channel par Miftah ata hai, doosray par Dar, dono aik doosray ko galian dete hain, and good night.
 
This https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/bangladesh/ is plenty good for me.
This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Bangladesh is more than most people need

I am quite confident, if I take up a job in Sheikh Hasina's office as a cabinet secretary, I will not learn as much. Sometimes, one has to stay away from the trees to see the forest.

You sound like this guy: https://www.quora.com/profile/Ibrahim-Ahmed-12

The same argument was given by this guy to me once.
 
Now I understand why arguing with you is a total waste of time.

Wikipedia pages regarding Bangladesh are all maintained by BAL-paid representatives. Try editing something controversial about BAL on BAL's page. It will be reverted in o time.

Also, 60% of Wikipedia contributors and users are from India.

How about Sheikh Hains paying a $450 million/month capacity charge to Gautam Adani? Do you know how many of that kinds of things are taking place in BD?

Do you know BD is at risk of going bankrupt as the reserve is depleted to a dangerous level and the current account deficit is very close to Pakistan?

> I am quite confident if I take up a job in Sheikh Hasina's office as a cabinet secretary, I will not learn as much. Sometimes, one has to stay away from the trees to see the forest.

How would you know that S Alam group is Sheikh Hasina's party accountant?
How do you know Hasina's son-in-law is in Dubai prison for embezzling billions of dollars?

Is this kind of info available in the CIA Factbook?
Look, I understand you have major problem with Hasina and her government. I don't know enough to say whether she is a devil she is made out to be or a regular human with weaknesses that all have. The original debate started by your comparing a completely non-viable state, Pakistan with a definitely viable state Bangladesh. On that we disagree. I am not going to give a character certificate to BAL government or the opposition.
 

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