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Pakistan's child brides married off for 'honour'

Not until there is a visible change in attitude...you have experienced it yourself this week.....i know because i did that cleanup for you. ;)

Who's Attitude? I've experienced that in past too, it wasn't something new. I come online on PDF, prepared to deal with it. I pity on such people. My comment was not about the thread your cleaned up... It's was/is my overall observation! :coffee:
 
Who's Attitude? I've experienced that in past too, it wasn't something new. I come online on PDF, prepared to deal with it. I pity on such people. My comment was not about the thread your cleaned up... It's was/is my overall observation! :coffee:

General attitude on PDF towards such sensitive topics.
 
Calm down ma'am, I'm not committing any crimes against women lol. In-fact, I wish to have a baby girl one day.

I have no problems police nabbing the guy then feeding him to the lions if necessary.

:what: it was not aimed at you.

it was the response to the crime.
 
:what: it was not aimed at you.

it was the response to the crime.

Yeah I thought of that but since you quoted me with that resp, seemed like you were talking to me directly. Anyways good we got that cleared. Cuz I'd skin the guy alive I see committing such crimes in-front of me.
 
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A young Pakistani girl Saneeda, who escaped a forced marriage under a local custom of Swara, plays a local game in the Madyan valley of Swat.

Madyan, Pakistan: One sunny afternoon as she skipped home from school, Saneeda was accosted by her estranged father, who wanted to marry her to a man she'd never met to settle a debt of "honour". She was five years old.
Why didnt je just cut his manhood in offer? Isnt that part of honor too?

A few months earlier, Saneeda's father Ali Ahmed had eloped with a girl from another valley. To avoid violent revenge from her family, he promised to give them his daughter and niece Sapna in marriage.
The girl eloped with a man who already had a daughter? and who the heck is he to offer his niece to settle his debt?
Offering young girls as brides in compensation to settle disputes persists in many areas of deeply conservative Pakistan.
I wouldnt say it is unheard of but what causes this stupid mindset?
In Saneeda's home district of Swat, in the country's northwest, the practice is known as "swara".

Government data show that it is on the rise in Swat, four years after an army operation ended the Taliban's brutal two-year rule in the scenic valley once known as the "Switzerland of Pakistan".
Which govt? and what are they trying to show that the "taliban's" brutal rule kept those villagers in line? or that people start getting more debt since the Brut left?
Nine cases were registered in the area in 2013, up from just one in 2012. Rights groups say the true number is much higher.


'Children taunt me'

"My father stopped me in the street and told me that he has given me in swara and soon will hand me over to a man who will be my husband," Saneeda, wearing a golden shawl with red and purple embroidery, told AFP, her cheeks reddening in embarrassment.
What the heck? I mean in Islam the girl has to be "baligh" and has to give consent what religion are these fathers following?
Her mother dismissed it at first, but the arrangement had been ordered by a jirga, a traditional tribal gathering, and the gravity of the situation soon became clear.
What the hell is a jirga made up of the most uneducated men they can find?
"We initially thought they can't take this girl away but then they increased pressure with every passing day to give her in swara," Fazal Ahad, Saneeda's maternal uncle, told AFP.
Which mental men gives away 5 yrs old as though they are property?
Eventually Saneeda's family got a court order protecting her. Police arrested her father and the jirga members who had decided to give her in swara.

A lucky escape, but Saneeda, now aged seven, still faces discrimination and mockery.

"Whenever I go to school, children taunt me and tell me that I have been given in swara and will be married to a man," she said.
poor girl
Saneeda was unsual in that her family challenged the jirga's ruling. In Pakistan's patriarchal society, where family reputation is paramount, airing the "dirty laundry" in public in this way is very rare.
Lucky girl
"There are many other cases of swara, but people in our area don't go to police and court and don't highlight such cases. We don't take matters of our women to the court -- the victimised girls have to bear it all," said Ahad.

The authorities do not keep detailed data on swara, but Samar Minallah, an activist who made an acclaimed documentary on the practice, said she had identified at least 132 cases around Pakistan in 2012.

The other girl given by Saneeda's father, 16-year-old Sapna, had to abide by the jirga ruling and settled with the husband they chose for her.
What is he (the father) or this jirga a community of pimps?
The custom and the code of silence that surrounds it is so strictly followed that AFP was unable to reach her to speak about her experience.


Code of silence

Ahad said the nine Swara cases reported in Swat are just the tip of the iceberg, but victims were becoming increasingly willing to speak out.
Go girls! Blast those balless men!
"People are slowly getting aware through media that this custom is an evil, so some of them have started reporting," he said.

Forced marriage under swara is against the law, but police say that even when a complaint is brought there is great reluctance among witnesses to give statements.
People know its against the law yet do it? Thats evidence enough for them to be horny pimps!
"In the cases of swara, people don't provide evidence against each other, because they are from the same village and community," Naveed Khan, a senior police official told AFP in Mingora, the district headquarter of Swat.

"In the single swara marriage case in 2012, all 12 accused were set free because there was lack of evidence against them. Nobody speaks up in such cases."

Officers arrested 65 suspects in the nine swara cases in 2013, including Saneeda's father, Khan said, but their fate rests with the courts.

Women's rights groups say the government needs to do more to crack down on swara.

"There are more than 15 cases of Swara, which have been highlighted," Tabassum Adnan Safi, the chair of a local women's campaign group, told AFP.

"We are working to make women aware of the evilness of this custom. Besides these awareness campaigns, we also protest against Swara and raise voice for the protection.

"But getting evidence in such cases is no doubt a big challenge because nobody talks about it."

Minallah says that nothing will change until the police and prosecutors are prepared to challenge the authority of local elders -- a difficult task in areas where such traditional power structures are deeply entrenched.

"An awareness has been created against swara, that is why there are more reported cases, but the authorities need to take strict action against jirgas and stop them violating the law," she said.

And there are those, even in the legal community, who defend the practice staunchly.

"It is helpful in removing deadly enmities among scores of tribes, saves dozens of lives and brings peace among families," Syed Kareem Shalman, a practising lawyer in Mingora, told AFP.

"If a family, which gets a bride in Swara mistreats her, faces revenge from the family who give their daughter to resolve the dispute."

Source : Pakistan's child brides married off for 'honour' | NDTV.com
Ok this may sound stupid I am a little confused is Swara a village or a custom practice?

Someone should get undercover and just expose these underground shameless pimps!

Those who defend the practice should get themselves sold! Then we will see how much peace among families and saving lives that does

What the hell do these people think girls are? Seriously this crap:

"It is helpful in removing deadly enmities among scores of tribes, saves dozens of lives and brings peace among families," Syed Kareem Shalman, a practising lawyer in Mingora, told AFP.

"If a family, which gets a bride in Swara mistreats her, faces revenge from the family who give their daughter to resolve the dispute."

Made me sick!!!
 
It doesn't matter. They are constitutionally ratified pure bred muslims. They can do whatever they want. They'll still get in to heaven. Don't you know tat?
 
Why didnt je just cut his manhood in offer? Isnt that part of honor too?

The girl eloped with a man who already had a daughter? and who the heck is he to offer his niece to settle his debt?
I wouldnt say it is unheard of but what causes this stupid mindset?
Which govt? and what are they trying to show that the "taliban's" brutal rule kept those villagers in line? or that people start getting more debt since the Brut left?
What the heck? I mean in Islam the girl has to be "baligh" and has to give consent what religion are these fathers following?
What the hell is a jirga made up of the most uneducated men they can find?
Which mental men gives away 5 yrs old as though they are property?
poor girl
Lucky girl
What is he (the father) or this jirga a community of pimps?
Go girls! Blast those balless men!
People know its against the law yet do it? Thats evidence enough for them to be horny pimps!
Ok this may sound stupid I am a little confused is Swara a village or a custom practice?

Someone should get undercover and just expose these underground shameless pimps!

Those who defend the practice should get themselves sold! Then we will see how much peace among families and saving lives that does

What the hell do these people think girls are? Seriously this crap:



Made me sick!!!


Great minds think alike. You highlighted my thoughts so well in your response :tup:
 
Education is the only way to get rid of such issues..... Have come across girls who faced similar issues.....
 
It doesn't matter. They are constitutionally ratified pure bred muslims. They can do whatever they want. They'll still get in to heaven. Don't you know tat?
No idea how your comment can fit in...You cant seem to see anything above what you want to...This thread is not about religion its about backwardness!

Who said they can do whatever they want? They have been caught and there are continuous efforts to catch them...Simply disgusting how you can just say what you did....

Drag daughters of the Nation for your enmity! Drag the daughters for the sake of your pride! Sickening!

Education is the only way to get rid of such issues..... Have come across girls who faced similar issues.....
I am under the impression capital punishment for any bastard doing this can send an equally strong msg!
 
Ok this may sound stupid I am a little confused is Swara a village or a custom practice?

It's a custom. There are so many accused because the whole jirga / family / groom are all arrested.
 
No idea how your comment can fit in...You cant seem to see anything above what you want to...This thread is not about religion its about backwardness!

Who said they can do whatever they want? They have been caught and there are continuous efforts to catch them...Simply disgusting how you can just say what you did....

Drag daughters of the Nation for your enmity! Drag the daughters for the sake of your pride! Sickening!


I am under the impression capital punishment for any bastard doing this can send an equally strong msg!

And what do I want? You seem to be under the false impression that I have come on this forum for something?

And Mullahs wholeheartedly support child marriages etc, if all mullahs simply refused to do nikah of children then this problem will be solved. How is this not about religion?
 
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