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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5289910.stm

Baloch militants have targeted railway tracks, power facilities and other key installations in a campaign which has run for two years.


Balochistan has a long history of resisting external influences
As their campaign continues, Pakistan's human rights commission has detailed widespread violations by the security forces, including extra-judicial killings - a report government officials say is one-sided.

No-one seems to know exactly how many civilians have died in helicopter raids on suspected militant camps or in the numerous rocket attacks on soldiers' camps.

In the words of one analyst, it's an undeclared war in which neither side is observing the rules.

So what on earth is going on in Balochistan, which is regarded as the poorest and most backward of Pakistan's four provinces?

With about six million inhabitants, Pakistan's biggest province has less than half the population of the port city of Karachi.

In mineral resources, however, it is said to be the richest province and is a major supplier of natural gas to the country.

With the government now planning to construct a deep sea port at Gwadar and a road link with Afghanistan and central Asia, Balochistan has acquired a new significance - both for Pakistan and other regional players.

And that is where the problem lies.

Nationalist anger

For decades, Baloch nationalists have been critical of the central government in Islamabad, accusing it of depriving the province its due.

They say the government took away income from natural gas and other resources, while spending only a trivial amount on the province.

Octogenarian warrior Nawab Akbar Bugti, reported killed by Pakistan in August 2006, mixed 17th century guerrilla tactics with modern weaponry to take on the might of Pakistan's security forces.


No-one knows exactly how many have died in the violence

Near the mountain hideout of his Bugti tribe, another chieftain, Nawab Khair Baksh, has been fighting a similar battle with security forces in the district of Kohlu.

The struggle for greater national rights, financial resources and against the establishment of military camps in Balochistan led to a tacit understanding between Nawab Bugti and Nawab Baksh.

One of Mr Baksh's six sons leads a force of trained and semi-trained Marri tribesmen, which goes by the name of the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA).

A third tribal leader, former Chief Minister Ataullah Mengal, is not involved in the armed struggle but gives it his ideological and political backing.

For these nationalist leaders, large projects such as the highway and Gwadar port scheme are another form of subjugation - serving the central government but offering little benefit to Balochistan.

The military garrisons set up in the area to secure the expected foreign investment are, for the rebels, also part of well-conceived plan to suppress the nationalist voice.

President Musharraf refers to these tribal chiefs as anti-development.

He says they oppose his projects because they will bring prosperity to the area and will end the archaic tribal system which preserves their power.


'Foreign involvement'

Without naming any country, he also accuses the armed Baloch militants of playing into foreign hands.

Senior officials in the security forces say they grew alarmed when intelligence agencies found more than one foreign country was involved in the province's affairs.

The countries were said to be opposed to Gwadar becoming a major trading port for central Asian nations and China.

One official said the biggest shock came when the interrogation of a group of militants revealed they had been trained in a friendly Gulf country, which allegedly feared it could lose its status as the region's biggest trading port.

But no matter what the authorities say about foreign involvement, seasoned Balochistan watchers say the problem is essentially local.

They say the Baloch people can only be tamed through political means, pointing out that this is not the first time they have taken up arms to fight those they see as outsiders.

And, they say, though the might of the armed forces might crush the people of Balochistan, it will never win their hearts and minds.
 
Where is the Ummah now?
Maybe there more powers than just India playing in Balochistan
 
Well read that artcile my pakistani friends, look where the enemy lies. Its in your own muslim brothers country.
 
this aint a flame bait,
I do believe this is a very important development
There has no 26 views, no replies.
This is the prejudice we have to get out off

PEACE
Adu
 
this aint a flame bait,
I do believe this is a very important development
There has no 26 views, no replies.
This is the prejudice we have to get out off

PEACE
Adu

This is not the first time it was reported. UAE has been linked even before and so was Iran. but this is the first time they have said "provided military training".
 
Military training, and pakistan cant even accuse them of providing military training, the moment Mushraff does so he will be called a complete US stooge..an allegation he is already been accused off, somewhat rightly too...

Things are going haywire in the border, and enforcing doesnt seem an option for him
 
I can respond here since this is the first time I have seen this thread. The issue is not neccessarily that of Ummah. Pakistan believes in Pan-Islamism, however not every gulf, Arab country believes in it or works towards it...sometimes nationalistic goals overshadow that of the need to have a unified Muslim front.

For some in Gulf, Gwader is a threat. Behind the scenes, they will try their best to slow down or retard the development...it is a bit unexpected because Pakistan has never undermined any of the Gulf states and from what I know, there was some straight talking b/w Musharraf and the folks in the Gulf.

Muslims are very farm from forging a united front because nationalism has been ingrained in the psyche of the Muslim countries occupied by the western powers. For as long as nationalism survives, things such as the one reported here should not come as a surprise. I would say one thing though, Muslim peoples definetly believe in being united, but the governments in most Muslim countries have other considerations which come before the unity of the Muslim world.
 
This is not the first time it was reported. UAE has been linked even before and so was Iran. but this is the first time they have said "provided military training".
You are in UAE right? Go check out how many Marris, Bugtis and Mengals are in UAE's police and military posts. They are all from the same tribes. These tribes have strong Arab links.
 
As some said., outside these arabs shows gratitude but inside they are ****** greedy bastards, this news doesn't surprise me 1 bit. SA is our friend but those little tiny arab countries are the problem espically UAW and Kuwait, etc. They know that pakistan will take some of their income out, etc. But don't worry soon the baloch problem will be over they now are becoming a minority in their own province. My cousins in pakistan said, they are being put down by force, etc. And alot of people in pakistan already know these tribes are to blame for their undeveloped area. Their was an article out from an interview with one of the leaders of the mengal tribe guess what he said, "we don't need road or gwadar development we want our money". Also, bugti co, used to recieve some royalties and they never developed anything, did you know bugti exiled 26,000 people cause they wanted to send women to higher education and develop schools and after 12 years they finally returned home. So I have no problem we need to get rid of this tribe and clan mentality cause it's useless now a days. Also., pakistan made another police force, border patrol first time in balcohistan using the Bugti tribe people, and they are living peacefully and don't have to pay any royalties to the pathetic family, etc, and they families got interviewed and happy that they are able to feed themselves much better than when bugti was around, and some day those arabs will get it for mess;in around (why you think they are being screwed around in the ME).
 
Bcause Nationalism comes before religion. Thats why other countries want prosperity for their own territories and not for another country. Every country MUST focus on its own gains.
 
I can respond here since this is the first time I have seen this thread. The issue is not neccessarily that of Ummah. Pakistan believes in Pan-Islamism, however not every gulf, Arab country believes in it or works towards it...sometimes nationalistic goals overshadow that of the need to have a unified Muslim front.

For some in Gulf, Gwader is a threat. Behind the scenes, they will try their best to slow down or retard the development...it is a bit unexpected because Pakistan has never undermined any of the Gulf states and from what I know, there was some straight talking b/w Musharraf and the folks in the Gulf.

Muslims are very farm from forging a united front because nationalism has been ingrained in the psyche of the Muslim countries occupied by the western powers. For as long as nationalism survives, things such as the one reported here should not come as a surprise. I would say one thing though, Muslim peoples definetly believe in being united, but the governments in most Muslim countries have other considerations which come before the unity of the Muslim world.

The Ummah is a non-starter, since most arabs view very other muslim as second- class citizens, Ummah is also a non-starter since Pakistan want to assume the role of leading the Ummah which is not acceptable to arabs and the likes or even to Afghanistan its immmediate neighbour. Its quite similar in the way pakistan treated the fellow muslims of east-pakistan. People rather have a division on the basis of a race or ideology than a brotherhood which gives equal footing to all. Nationalistic Feelings is not injucted by western powers, even through out history we see muslim nations fighting against each other. Pakistan has never had the capability to undermine any gulf powers in the past, but gawdar gives them that oppertunity.

it is a utopian dream, even to imagine the formation somthing as largscale as the ummah. Petty difference run way top deep
 
could someone please inform me. What is the ummah??
 
could someone please inform me. What is the ummah??

How can I put it., Ummah in Islam is all muslim community no matter what your ethnicity, color, etc. You are just muslim and belong to that community. Similar to America different races, etc....but they all are American.
 
You are in UAE right? Go check out how many Marris, Bugtis and Mengals are in UAE's police and military posts. They are all from the same tribes. These tribes have strong Arab links.

Asim that accusation didnt come from me,i said it was reported before.
 
How can I put it., Ummah in Islam is all muslim community no matter what your ethnicity, color, etc. You are just muslim and belong to that community. Similar to America different races, etc....but they all are American.

So isnt that whats written in your consitution too..? To whatever caste/relegion you belong to you are a Pakistani.
 
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