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Pakistan Builds Smarter Shells
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April 22, 2008: Pakistan has begun production of DPICM (Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munition) 155mm artillery shells (each one carrying 88 bomblets). DPICM is more effective against enemy troops than conventional shells. The bomblets are basically anti-vehicle weapons with a fragmentation effect that kills or injures most people within 20 feet of one going off. In use for over three decades, the DPICM bomblets (also used in cluster bombs) have a dud rate of about one percent. That means one percent do not explode when they hit something (after being expelled from the shell, before the shell hits the ground). These duds can explode later if picked up or stepped on.
That's a lower dud rate than for most munitions, but one shell carries 88 separate small bombs, while each MLRS rocket carries 644. So you have a lot more dud munitions sitting around on the battlefield, ready to injure your own troops and civilians. DPICM continues to be used because the bomblets more than triple the effectiveness of each conventional shell (which is just filled with an explosive charge.)
Pakistan licensed the technology for this shell from a South Korean company. The Pakistani shell also uses base bleed technology to increase range 20 percent. This is done by having a solid fuel in the base of the shell burn after firing, releasing gas that reduces drag and extends range.
Artillery: Pakistan Builds Smarter Shells
India artillery upgrade stuck, Pak gets howitzers from US
New Delhi, Tue Aug 25 2009
India's artillery modernisation has been stuck due to scam scares ever since the Bofors scandal but Pakistan has gone ahead, equipping its army with the latest guns that now threaten to give it an edge over the Indian Army.
While India has not received even a single new artillery gun in the last two decades, Pakistan recently received a batch of 67 self-propelled artillery guns from the US using War against Terror funds granted by Washington.
Latest United Nations data reveal that delivery of the M-109 A5 self-propelled artillery guns took place last year. The guns were transferred under the US Foreign Military Financing (FMF) programme that was granted to Pakistan for the fight against militant groups on its border with Afghanistan.
Experts say these M-109 A5 155 mm howitzers give Pakistan a definite conventional edge over the Indian Army that is years away from induction of similar systems. The most modern guns in the Indian Army are the Bofors that were procured in the 1980s.
"While the Indian Army modernisation is getting nowhere, Pakistan is steadily modernising not only its artillery but other arms and services as well. This will lead to erosion in India's conventional superiority if not checked immediately," said Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal, a former artillery officer, who heads the Army's think tank, Centre for Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS).
In the Nineties, the Indian Army had put forward a requirement for guns similar to the ones that Pakistan has now got. While the plan took off in 1999, it got scrapped after eight years of trials after South African firm Denel was blacklisted by the government.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/india-artillery-upgrade-stuck-pak-gets-howitzers-from-us/506762/1
U.S. delivers 48 field artillery cannons to Pakistan Army
10:11, February 14, 2010
The United States delivered 48 self-propelled field artillery cannons to the Pakistan Army on Saturday at the Malir Cantonment in the southern port city of Karachi, the U.S embassy said.
The delivery marks the completion of a total purchase of 115 field artillery cannons by Pakistan through the U.S. foreign military sales/foreign military finance program, the embassy spokesman said.
The FMS/FMF case was initiated by Pakistan in 2006 and enabled the government of Pakistan to obtain the cannons from the United States at a greatly discounted rate.
"These field artillery cannons are an important part of enhancing the capabilities of Pakistan's Army as it continues to wage its courageous fight against terrorists who seek to destroy Pakistan's people and way of life," said U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Michael Nagata, U.S. Office of the Defense Representative-Pakistan.
"It is our hope that these weapons are ultimately able to play an important role in ending extremist violence and bringing peace once again to this great nation," he said.
During the last three years, U.S. civilian and security assistance to Pakistan has totaled more than 4 billion dollars.
Assistance provided and delivered has included support for medical aid, school refurbishment, bridge and well reconstruction, food distribution, agricultural and education projects, 14 F-16 fighter aircraft, 10 Mi-17 helicopters, more than 450 vehicles for Pakistan's Frontier Corps, hundreds of night vision goggles, day/ night scopes, radios, and thousands of protective vests and first- aid items for Pakistan's security forces.
In addition, the U.S. funded and provided training for more than 370 Pakistani military officers in a wide range of leadership and development programs covering topics such as counterterrorism, intelligence, logistics, medical, flight safety, and military law.
U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Michael Nagata, U.S. Office of the Defense Representative-Pakistan deputy commander, officially handed over the M1095A5 Howitzer self-propelled cannons to Pakistan Army Brigadier Farrukh Saeed, 25th Mechanized Division Artillery Commander, during a ceremony in Karachi. The event was attended by Steve Fakan, U.S. Consul General to Karachi, and more than a dozen U.S. and Pakistani military representatives.
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/6894852.html
North Korea Helps Pakistan Get It Right
April 24, 2011: Pakistan recently successfully tested a new, short range, ballistic missile. The Hatf 9 is the latest model in the Hatf line of nuclear armed missiles. With a range of only 60 kilometers, Hatf 9 is small enough for two to be mounted on one vehicle. It's trajectory is flatter than most ballistic missiles, making it more difficult for anti-missile systems to hit. The apparent size and range of the Hatf 9 is similar to the Russian OTR-21 (SS-21). Introduced in the late 1970s, this two ton, 650mm diameter, 6.4 meter (21 foot) long SS-21 had a range of 70 kilometers and a half ton warhead (large enough for existing Pakistani nuclear warheads). North Korea, a regular supplier of missile technology to Pakistan, had built its own version of the SS-21, and could have provided the needed technical assistance to Pakistan.
Pakistan has a full range of solid fuel rockets. In addition to the Hatf 9, there is the 1.5 ton Hatf 1, which appeared in 1989, has a range of 80 kilometers and a half ton warhead. The Hatf 1 apparently never entered service, due to reliability problems. Thus the Hatf 9 is basically the Hatf 1 done right.
Also showing up in 1989, the 2.5 ton Hatf 2 has a range of 180 kilometers, and also carries a half ton warhead. Then there is the four ton Ghaznavi (Hatf 3), which was first tested four years ago, and appears to be based on the Chinese DF-11. This missile has a range of some 300 kilometers and also carries a half ton warhead. The Shaheen 1 (Hatf 4), which weighs 9.5 tons, and carries a one ton warhead, has a maximum range of 700 kilometers. The Shaheen 1 entered service in 2003, and is apparently a variant of the Chinese DF-9 missile. Pakistan is believed to have received the solid fuel DF-9 in the 1990s, and has modified it somewhat. Pakistan began producing the Hatf 4 in the late 1990s, although it was not tested until 1999. The design appears to be well thought out, for the Hatf 4 has had several successful tests. It's not known if Pakistan has a nuclear warhead of equal reliability. Such warheads are difficult to design, manufacture and test. China has long been selling military technology to Pakistan, but it appears that nuclear warhead technology has not been offered.
The largest Pakistani ballistic missile is the Shaheen 2, which is believed to be an upgraded Pakistani version of the Chinese M-18, which was originally shown at the 1987 Beijing air show as a two-stage missile with a 1,000 km range and carrying a 900-1100 pound payload. This M-18 missile has the longest range of any of the current M/DF-series missiles. The mobile, two-stage missile is said to be able to carry a one ton payload. There have been over half a dozen successful test launches of the Shaheen 2 in the last six years. The missiles now have a range of 2,000 kilometers, which puts Bombay, New Delhi, Lucknow, and Jaipur, as well as all military targets in northern India, within range. Satellite photos of a Pakistani factory 30 kilometers southwest of the capital show transporter erector launchers (TELs) being assembled for the Shaheen 2 ballistic missile. It appears that several dozen of the fifty foot long, six axle vehicles have been built there in the last four years.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htart/20110424.aspx
Next Article → LEADERSHIP: The "Year of the Soldier" In Pakistan
April 22, 2008: Pakistan has begun production of DPICM (Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munition) 155mm artillery shells (each one carrying 88 bomblets). DPICM is more effective against enemy troops than conventional shells. The bomblets are basically anti-vehicle weapons with a fragmentation effect that kills or injures most people within 20 feet of one going off. In use for over three decades, the DPICM bomblets (also used in cluster bombs) have a dud rate of about one percent. That means one percent do not explode when they hit something (after being expelled from the shell, before the shell hits the ground). These duds can explode later if picked up or stepped on.
That's a lower dud rate than for most munitions, but one shell carries 88 separate small bombs, while each MLRS rocket carries 644. So you have a lot more dud munitions sitting around on the battlefield, ready to injure your own troops and civilians. DPICM continues to be used because the bomblets more than triple the effectiveness of each conventional shell (which is just filled with an explosive charge.)
Pakistan licensed the technology for this shell from a South Korean company. The Pakistani shell also uses base bleed technology to increase range 20 percent. This is done by having a solid fuel in the base of the shell burn after firing, releasing gas that reduces drag and extends range.
Artillery: Pakistan Builds Smarter Shells
India artillery upgrade stuck, Pak gets howitzers from US
New Delhi, Tue Aug 25 2009
India's artillery modernisation has been stuck due to scam scares ever since the Bofors scandal but Pakistan has gone ahead, equipping its army with the latest guns that now threaten to give it an edge over the Indian Army.
While India has not received even a single new artillery gun in the last two decades, Pakistan recently received a batch of 67 self-propelled artillery guns from the US using War against Terror funds granted by Washington.
Latest United Nations data reveal that delivery of the M-109 A5 self-propelled artillery guns took place last year. The guns were transferred under the US Foreign Military Financing (FMF) programme that was granted to Pakistan for the fight against militant groups on its border with Afghanistan.
Experts say these M-109 A5 155 mm howitzers give Pakistan a definite conventional edge over the Indian Army that is years away from induction of similar systems. The most modern guns in the Indian Army are the Bofors that were procured in the 1980s.
"While the Indian Army modernisation is getting nowhere, Pakistan is steadily modernising not only its artillery but other arms and services as well. This will lead to erosion in India's conventional superiority if not checked immediately," said Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal, a former artillery officer, who heads the Army's think tank, Centre for Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS).
In the Nineties, the Indian Army had put forward a requirement for guns similar to the ones that Pakistan has now got. While the plan took off in 1999, it got scrapped after eight years of trials after South African firm Denel was blacklisted by the government.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/india-artillery-upgrade-stuck-pak-gets-howitzers-from-us/506762/1
U.S. delivers 48 field artillery cannons to Pakistan Army
10:11, February 14, 2010
The United States delivered 48 self-propelled field artillery cannons to the Pakistan Army on Saturday at the Malir Cantonment in the southern port city of Karachi, the U.S embassy said.
The delivery marks the completion of a total purchase of 115 field artillery cannons by Pakistan through the U.S. foreign military sales/foreign military finance program, the embassy spokesman said.
The FMS/FMF case was initiated by Pakistan in 2006 and enabled the government of Pakistan to obtain the cannons from the United States at a greatly discounted rate.
"These field artillery cannons are an important part of enhancing the capabilities of Pakistan's Army as it continues to wage its courageous fight against terrorists who seek to destroy Pakistan's people and way of life," said U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Michael Nagata, U.S. Office of the Defense Representative-Pakistan.
"It is our hope that these weapons are ultimately able to play an important role in ending extremist violence and bringing peace once again to this great nation," he said.
During the last three years, U.S. civilian and security assistance to Pakistan has totaled more than 4 billion dollars.
Assistance provided and delivered has included support for medical aid, school refurbishment, bridge and well reconstruction, food distribution, agricultural and education projects, 14 F-16 fighter aircraft, 10 Mi-17 helicopters, more than 450 vehicles for Pakistan's Frontier Corps, hundreds of night vision goggles, day/ night scopes, radios, and thousands of protective vests and first- aid items for Pakistan's security forces.
In addition, the U.S. funded and provided training for more than 370 Pakistani military officers in a wide range of leadership and development programs covering topics such as counterterrorism, intelligence, logistics, medical, flight safety, and military law.
U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Michael Nagata, U.S. Office of the Defense Representative-Pakistan deputy commander, officially handed over the M1095A5 Howitzer self-propelled cannons to Pakistan Army Brigadier Farrukh Saeed, 25th Mechanized Division Artillery Commander, during a ceremony in Karachi. The event was attended by Steve Fakan, U.S. Consul General to Karachi, and more than a dozen U.S. and Pakistani military representatives.
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/6894852.html
North Korea Helps Pakistan Get It Right
April 24, 2011: Pakistan recently successfully tested a new, short range, ballistic missile. The Hatf 9 is the latest model in the Hatf line of nuclear armed missiles. With a range of only 60 kilometers, Hatf 9 is small enough for two to be mounted on one vehicle. It's trajectory is flatter than most ballistic missiles, making it more difficult for anti-missile systems to hit. The apparent size and range of the Hatf 9 is similar to the Russian OTR-21 (SS-21). Introduced in the late 1970s, this two ton, 650mm diameter, 6.4 meter (21 foot) long SS-21 had a range of 70 kilometers and a half ton warhead (large enough for existing Pakistani nuclear warheads). North Korea, a regular supplier of missile technology to Pakistan, had built its own version of the SS-21, and could have provided the needed technical assistance to Pakistan.
Pakistan has a full range of solid fuel rockets. In addition to the Hatf 9, there is the 1.5 ton Hatf 1, which appeared in 1989, has a range of 80 kilometers and a half ton warhead. The Hatf 1 apparently never entered service, due to reliability problems. Thus the Hatf 9 is basically the Hatf 1 done right.
Also showing up in 1989, the 2.5 ton Hatf 2 has a range of 180 kilometers, and also carries a half ton warhead. Then there is the four ton Ghaznavi (Hatf 3), which was first tested four years ago, and appears to be based on the Chinese DF-11. This missile has a range of some 300 kilometers and also carries a half ton warhead. The Shaheen 1 (Hatf 4), which weighs 9.5 tons, and carries a one ton warhead, has a maximum range of 700 kilometers. The Shaheen 1 entered service in 2003, and is apparently a variant of the Chinese DF-9 missile. Pakistan is believed to have received the solid fuel DF-9 in the 1990s, and has modified it somewhat. Pakistan began producing the Hatf 4 in the late 1990s, although it was not tested until 1999. The design appears to be well thought out, for the Hatf 4 has had several successful tests. It's not known if Pakistan has a nuclear warhead of equal reliability. Such warheads are difficult to design, manufacture and test. China has long been selling military technology to Pakistan, but it appears that nuclear warhead technology has not been offered.
The largest Pakistani ballistic missile is the Shaheen 2, which is believed to be an upgraded Pakistani version of the Chinese M-18, which was originally shown at the 1987 Beijing air show as a two-stage missile with a 1,000 km range and carrying a 900-1100 pound payload. This M-18 missile has the longest range of any of the current M/DF-series missiles. The mobile, two-stage missile is said to be able to carry a one ton payload. There have been over half a dozen successful test launches of the Shaheen 2 in the last six years. The missiles now have a range of 2,000 kilometers, which puts Bombay, New Delhi, Lucknow, and Jaipur, as well as all military targets in northern India, within range. Satellite photos of a Pakistani factory 30 kilometers southwest of the capital show transporter erector launchers (TELs) being assembled for the Shaheen 2 ballistic missile. It appears that several dozen of the fifty foot long, six axle vehicles have been built there in the last four years.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htart/20110424.aspx
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Abdul Qadeer Khan Research Dr. laboratories multiple rocket launcher assembly and two sets of 122.4 mm caliber, 3.1 meters of stainless steel pipe missiles are arranged in three lines of five years and mounted on a rack. Assembly can be either a vehicle mounted (for example, a series M35 (6 × 6) truck and used by the Pakistani army) or trailer to pull the vehicle.
Firing mechanism is the type of electricity that can either be operated from the fire box to control provided in the cockpit of the car or from a protected location at a distance of about 50-60 m from the launcher using a remote control connected via cable launcher. The rockets can be launched singularly or in rocket fire. Pass the Assembly is 180 degrees with no height limit being 0-55 degrees. The latter can be either electrically or manually controlled. The rocket fire from Grad 122 mm standard fin stabilized and produced by Pakistan Ordnance Factories. Maximum range of this system is 20380 meters.
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Has developed KRL 122 - Kahuta Research Laboratories of Pakistan rocket launcher that is very similar to 11 North Korean BM. And was originally based 122 KRL Isuzu truck but later models of used trucks M35 Rio. Some remember Gadab sources label or Azar. Except the original Soviet missiles, "Yarmuk" developed by Pakistan Ordnance Factories can be launched.
B) Abdul Qadeer Khan Research Dr. laboratories multiple rocket launcher assembly and two sets of 122.4 mm caliber, 3.1 meters of stainless steel pipe missiles are arranged in three lines of five years and mounted on a rack. Assembly can be either a vehicle mounted (for example, a series M35 (6 × 6) mounted on trucks or towing a trailer.
Firing mechanism is the type of electricity that can either be operated from the fire box to control provided in the cockpit of the car or from a protected location at a distance of about 50-60 m from the launcher using a remote control connected via cable launcher. The rockets can be launched singularly or in rocket fire. Pass the Assembly is 180 degrees with no height limit being 0-55 degrees. The latter can be either electrically or manually controlled.
The rocket fire from Grad 122 mm standard fin stabilized and produced by Pakistan Ordnance Factories. Maximum range of this system is 20380 meters.
Pakistan origin
Type self-propelled multiple rocket launcher
122 mm caliber
Pipe 30
Rocket along the N / A
Weight no missile
Warhead weight N / A
N Minimum chucking / A.
Maximum shooting 20380
Rate of Fire N / A
Re n / Time
High N / A
Pass N / A
Site N / A
Launch vehicle M35 6 x 6 truck
Anti weight N / A
Vehicle speed on the roads N / A
Launch vehicle n Range / A.
KRL 122 mm (30-round) MRLS
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The Dr AQ Khan Research Laboratories multiple rocket launcher assembly has two groups of 122.4 mm calibre, 3.1 m long stainless steel rocket tubes arranged in three lines of five and mounted on a cradle. The assembly can either be vehicle mounted (for example, on an M35 series (6 x 6) truck as used by the Pakistan Army) or trailer mounted for towing.
The firing mechanism is an electric type which can either be operated from a fire-control box provided in the vehicle's cabin or from a sheltered position at a distance of some 50 to 60 m from the launcher using a remote-control device connected to the launcher by cable. The rockets can be launched singularly or in salvo. Traverse of the assembly is 180 ° with elevation limits being 0 to 55 °. The latter can be either electrically or manually controlled. The rockets are of the standard 122 mm Grad fin-stabilised type and are produced by the Pakistan Ordnance Factories. Maximum range of the system is 20,380 metres.
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Production. In service with the Pakistani Army. COMPANY NAME: Dr AQ Khan Research Laboratories
KRL 122 - Kahuta Research Laboratories from Pakistan have developed a rocket launcher that is very similar to the North-Korean BM-11. The KRL 122 was originally based on an Isuzu truck but later models use the Reo M35 truck. Some sources mention the designator Gadab or Azar. Except for the original Soviet rockets, the "Yarmuk" developed by Pakistan Ordnance Factories can be launched.
b) The Dr AQ Khan Research Laboratories multiple rocket launcher assembly has two groups of 122.4 mm calibre, 3.1 m long stainless steel rocket tubes arranged in three lines of five and mounted on a cradle. The assembly can either be vehicle mounted (for example, on an M35 series (6 x 6) truck or trailer mounted for towing.
The firing mechanism is an electric type which can either be operated from a fire-control box provided in the vehicle's cabin or from a sheltered position at a distance of some 50 to 60 m from the launcher using a remote-control device connected to the launcher by cable. The rockets can be launched singularly or in salvo. Traverse of the assembly is 180 ° with elevation limits being 0 to 55 °. The latter can be either electrically or manually controlled.
The rockets are of the standard 122 mm Grad fin-stabilised type and are produced by the Pakistan Ordnance Factories. Maximum range of the system is 20,380 metres.
Origin Pakistan
Type Self-Propelled Multiple Rocket Launcher
Calibre 122 mm
Tubes 30
Rocket Length N / A
Rocket Weight N / A
Warhead Weight N / A
Minimum Firing Range N / A
Maximum Firing Range 20,380 m
Rate of Fire N / A
Reloading Time N / A
Elevation N / A
Traverse N / A
Crew N / A
Launcher Vehicle M35 6 x 6 truck
Combat Weight N / A
Vehicle Road Speed ​​N / A
Launcher Vehicle Range N / A
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Some excellent news..... the range of KRL-122mm has been improved and is now 45km.
GIDS Official website:
:: GIDS - REFURBISHMENT-RANGE-ENHANCEMENT-OF-122MM-MBRL-AMMUNITION ::
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Has anyone seen pictures or know of the service of SH-1 which has been rumored to have entered service, seen the picture of Panter but none for SH-1.
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good one, as we realised in kargil war that our artillery was not as upgraded as it should be. so i can say its a good step.
2nd. i think Pakistan also upgrade and develop its navy which is the weakest one among the 3 forces.
2nd. i think Pakistan also upgrade and develop its navy which is the weakest one among the 3 forces.
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you are good at pics
why are guys in this pic are jumping or diving
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Field Artillery - Pakistan Military Photos
Please do not open another artillery thread with the same old pics posted a couple of years back in this relevant thread -- All new artillery threads will be merged with this one & the thread title has been changed
Superb pic,only showing its business end.
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What's the range of the panter?Does it have a fire control system?What number will eventually be procured?
I'm envious of pak army artillery but i think they are using too many varieties which could cause logistical nightmare,should standardize.
I'm envious of pak army artillery but i think they are using too many varieties which could cause logistical nightmare,should standardize.
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Apnaa @DESERT FIGHTER talked about PA looking to standardize the Artillery to a 155mm caliber, I think !
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PK is developing its own MRLS the AZAR. this is being done in conjuction with China as it appears similar to the Type 81. PK has signed on to acquire 36 300mm A100 MRLS from China.
PK is seeking to procure self-propelled mortar systems SPMS to equip the rapidly increasing mechanised infantry formations with their own firepower to complement the recently improved self propelled SP artillery formations.
the arty directorate and strike corps are more interested to improve the effectiveness of the self propelled SP howitzers, there fore the SPMS procurement is likely to take a back seat to the SP requirements.
the most likely system to base SPMS will be the APC 113s or similar systems.
PK is seeking to procure self-propelled mortar systems SPMS to equip the rapidly increasing mechanised infantry formations with their own firepower to complement the recently improved self propelled SP artillery formations.
the arty directorate and strike corps are more interested to improve the effectiveness of the self propelled SP howitzers, there fore the SPMS procurement is likely to take a back seat to the SP requirements.
the most likely system to base SPMS will be the APC 113s or similar systems.
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Apnaa @DESERT FIGHTER talked about PA looking to standardize the Artillery to a 155mm caliber, I think !
Not calibre,i meant types of systems,will all these different artillery systems fire same rounds.If not then logistical problem.
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so we still dont know about SH-1?
i think it is inducted already because we heard about the news a while ago
i think it is inducted already because we heard about the news a while ago
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