Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Rafi]

The story is the same as it was back in 2009 or 2010. 9 years have passed and you have been saying it Mastan that time to move on from Mirage IIIs and F7pgs. but nothing has been done.

No one will sell us frontline equipment until the MMRCA is complete. As every major player wants to sell to India first. Including the swedes. Due to their order being much bigger.


Secondly, Money constraints on our dismal economy make any good purchase difficult.

Purchasing the SAAB EREYIE was a master stroke in 2006. Sadly we lost 1 to realize its true worth.

Our Airforce planners are asleep at the controls of this airforce and sadly no one is their to wake them up from their slumber.

regards,

Ice man

BS.

 

[batmannow]

hi,

If you listen to Air Marshall Latif's inerview---he talks about pakistan's influence in the upgrades to the J10.

According to AM Latif---the chinese did not have the capability to build what Paf was asking for what was to be in the JF17---but he had full confidence in the chinese engineering capabilities and at the speed at which chinese engineering capability was advancing---so he kept pushing forward---.

The chinese kept providing what the Latif's team asked for and the reward they got back in return was Paf's input in the design upgrade of the J10 from Paf's input---.

Paf has stuck to the JF17---as it is its baby---but they need to get other aircraft---like the J10 C's to fill in the hole---.

Looking at what has happened---Paf needs at least 450 to 500 front line fighter / strike aircraft---. The Jf17's alone won't cut it---.

The US will now think of some kind of sanctions regarding the use of the F16's as india will go crying to big daddy---.

Yea, we need SU35 at least 2 sqdrns and J10s 4 to 5 Sqdrns with PL15s and some better avionices and RADAR mounts then we can hve a punch to any one from any side tryin to commin into our areo space but then we need Good numbers of high range newer gen of anti aircraft missiles on the grounds

 

[Rafi]

I would really like to understand the red font part little more.

1). How was this done?

2). What was the logic behind this?

3). Why a surprise attack was not a better idea?

@Windjammer; @Bilal Khan 777

Classified, never going to be revealed, suffice to say all assets and different levels of Intel used, friendly country helped, for which we are thankful.

 

[batmannow]

i have got 2 questions ...can the AWACS RADAR BE JAMMED ?OR AWACS can be sent fake signals

But when the data language of the Chinese AWACS is not the regular data language its dam, dam hard to deploy any kind of fake data umbrella against it

 

[Jinn Baba]

I would really like to understand the red font part little more.

1). How was this done?

2). What was the logic behind this?

3). Why a surprise attack was not a better idea?

@Windjammer; @Bilal Khan 777

1) DG ISPR press briefing following Indian attack.

2) To satisfy own public and put the enemy on the defensive.

3) It was a surprise attack. The Indians themselves accepted they didnt expect (despite warning) for PAF to attack so soon and in broad daylight. PAF tactics and the capability of PAF aircraft also came as a surprise to them.

And look what has happened since PAFs surprise - where is the IAF now? Where is their aggressive posturing? Why are they now crying over not having Rafale?

 

[batmannow]

The story is the same as it was back in 2009 or 2010. 9 years have passed and you have been saying it Mastan that time to move on from Mirage IIIs and F7pgs. but nothing has been done.

No one will sell us frontline equipment until the MMRCA is complete. As every major player wants to sell to India first. Including the swedes. Due to their order being much bigger.


Secondly, Money constraints on our dismal economy make any good purchase difficult.

Purchasing the SAAB EREYIE was a master stroke in 2006. Sadly we lost 1 to realize its true worth.

Our Airforce planners are asleep at the controls of this airforce and sadly no one is their to wake them up from their slumber.

regards,

Ice man

And you are tellin all that even after looking at RAFEAL deal Indians having with France?

1) DG ISPR press briefing following Indian attack.

2) To satisfy own public and put the enemy on the defensive.

3) It was a surprise attack. The Indians themselves accepted they didnt expect (despite warning) for PAF to attack so soon and in broad daylight. PAF tactics and the capability of PAF aircraft also came as a surprise to them.

And look what has happened since PAFs surprise - where is the IAF now? Where is their aggressive posturing? Why are they now crying over not having Rafale?

Cause thy just got the knowledge that, the JF thunder abilities and capabilities they knew was differnt what they have faced and the shock of life time came with PL15s deadly strike

 

[TOPGUN]

My understanding is that the PAF have the following AWACS aircraft:

4 x ZDK-03
4 x Saab Erieye
plus an order for 3 more Erieye
that's 11 in total and give the PAF significant situational awareness.

to complement this, PAF needs to purchase electronic warfare aircraft/ signal inteligence etc....

this would further enhance its capabilities and will deter a would be adversary!

PAF has 3 Falcon DA-20 ( Called the Blinders ) aircraft for electronic warfare / EW Radar jamming.

 

[syed_yusuf]

PAF has 3 Falcon DA-20 ( Called the Blinders ) aircraft for electronic warfare / EW Radar jamming.

what about king air 350 EW , i think 2 is with army and 2 with PAF

 

[TOPGUN]

what about king air 350 EW , i think 2 is with army and 2 with PAF

Good catch, I am not sure about the PAF but yes PA has them !!

 

[Cornered Tiger]

and PN has 1 Hawker 850XP

 

[Dazzler]

My understanding is that the PAF have the following AWACS aircraft:

4 x ZDK-03
4 x Saab Erieye
plus an order for 3 more Erieye
that's 11 in total and give the PAF significant situational awareness.

to complement this, PAF needs to purchase electronic warfare aircraft/ signal inteligence etc....

this would further enhance its capabilities and will deter a would be adversary!

All 4 zdks will get upgraded radar and sensors as planned. One is being upgraded in China.

 

[Pied Piper]

PAF has 3 Falcon DA-20 ( Called the Blinders ) aircraft for electronic warfare / EW Radar jamming.

Excellent , as these are essential in establishing air corridors in a heavy defended air space/ground.

Pakistan needs to purchase more, so that they can carry out task in various sector of its airspace .
AWACS/special electronic warfare aircraft - network centric warfare environment would play a crucial part in any future conflict. This is an area where pakistan needs to increase its inventory.
In addition, it needs to purchase Cost effective additional aircraft, such as the Chinese J-10c to supplement its Jf-17 and F-16 aircraft.
Due to budget constraints - it should make its F-7p and related aircraft BVR capable. The aircraft will get the extra support from the AWACS aircraft. This is purely an interim measure - until economy improves so that better aircraft can be purchased.

 

[Thorough Pro]

We told them we will retaliate, we did not tell them we will be coming to such and such place in such and such planes at such and such time.

I would really like to understand the red font part little more.

1). How was this done?

2). What was the logic behind this?

3). Why a surprise attack was not a better idea?

@Windjammer; @Bilal Khan 777

 

[ice_man]

BS.

really.

tell me which front line fighter is available for pakistan to purchase, If it intends to buy tomorrow. Get your head out of the sand. No one will risk losing the 126 plane order of the Indians. for an order of probably 18 jets.

its all about the money at the end of the day

 

[Rafi]

really.

tell me which front line fighter is available for pakistan to purchase, If it intends to buy tomorrow. Get your head out of the sand. No one will risk losing the 126 plane order of the Indians. for an order of probably 18 jets.

its all about the money at the end of the day

Even now we are able to buy top line Western systems even from the US, 2 things stopping us economy and our desire for 5th Gen, which without strings is only going to come from our Chinese friends.