Pakistan's Ahmadis battle mob and state for identity

[Jaanbaz]

We are dealing with severely retarded, fanatic religious, brain dead and inbred posters here. From now on I will deal with them how they should be dealt with by not taking them seriously, we are dealing with people who believe Ahmadis should live under their feet or die. Same people who were crying on other threads about European discrimination against Muslims yet they can't even give basic rights to minorities in Pakistan.

 

[airmarshal]

So you can go and burn down Ahmadi factories, kill unborn ahmadi babies and shoot dead 13 year olds. Right?

Being impertinent is one thing but avoiding my post's point that Ahmedis should not persecuted and treated with respect, is quite another.

Dont point finger at me if you want to make a selective argument.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Is this true? why would a simple greeting offend so much.

now that is wrong in so many levels.. Islam is not just reserved for muslims it is for entire man kind! though its another matter if someone tries to modify the religion to misguide others.. just like a law in any nation... as a civilian you are suppose to fallow that law not change it according to your needs...

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Okay, so it seems like the ahmadi factory owner hired a mod to not only burn down his factory for the insurance claim, but also somehow ordered the mob to burn down ahmadi houses and an Ahmadi mosques? All of these were insured by the factory owner? Lol. You insult your own self with childish commenst such as these. Do you understand now why I had apprehension towards replying to you with more than a snarky remark?

I got the stories mixed-up and I apologise to you and your kind. Please see post 39 and the link to the story.

Sir, I was replying in the context of the alleged incident which warranted a reserved judgement on the credibility of the said article. As you're still 'drumming' about the mixed-up story then I ask you to see the link on my post 39 and tell me how was the chandra removed from the kundi. It is not possible to take out the chandra from the cut-gap.

Sir, I have NEVER advocated hurting qadiyyanies and you'll see I've always maintained they have certain rights and cannot be harmed. However, with world propaganda anti-Pakistan we cannot rule out self inflicted criminal damage to garner world sympathy. I'm sure this also helps any future asylum cases of the said community.

As for your statement about people being freed to leave Pakistan, then you are already getting your wish. A large number of educated and economically astute minded Ahmadis have already left Pakistan. Taking with them knowledge and what is refered to in economics as "flight of capital".

Sir, I have no issue with ANYONE who wishes to leave the land of the pure. I hope they are welcomed and are happy with Donald Trump.

Only in your twisted mind is this a great thing, since the loser will be Pakistan itself as it loses the most productive members of its society.

Sir, no one said for your kind to leave. I said if ANYONE is not happy here, then you're free to leave. We have 70 years of corrupt rule walhamduliliha we're still here. So, i'm sure we'll manage without the qadiyaqnies, so please don't worry about the land of the pure, just leave the passport on the way out!

Ahmadis have to date, remain peaceful, and people like you will remain oblivious to the patience of Ahmadis in not retaliating.

Sir, I would suggest you keep these kind of emotional outbursts to yourself.

Nope i was born here,raised here and live here and i want to free this country from mullahsaurases so far by the looks of it we are winning cheers mate

What exactly are you wining? Selling out the country to the highest bidder? Or are you trying to circumvent internal strife to dismember the land of the pure? There is a reason why there are lots of lamp post in Islamabad!

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

such deep entrenched hatred for you own, muslims, no less !

almost feel like we're talking about intolerant India.

We don't take lessons from the accursed shaitan!

 

[Zibago]

I got the stories mixed-up and I apologise to you and your kind. Please see post 39 and the link to the story.

Sir, I was replying in the context of the alleged incident which warranted a reserved judgement on the credibility of the said article. As you're still 'drumming' about the mixed-up story then I ask you to see the link on my post 39 and tell me how was the chandra removed from the kundi. It is not possible to take out the chandra from the cut-gap.

Sir, I have NEVER advocated hurting qadiyyanies and you'll see I've always maintained they have certain rights and cannot be harmed. However, with world propaganda anti-Pakistan we cannot rule out self inflicted criminal damage to garner world sympathy. I'm sure this also helps any future asylum cases of the said community.



Sir, I have no issue with ANYONE who wishes to leave the land of the pure. I hope they are welcomed and are happy with Donald Trump.



Sir, no one said for your kind to leave. I said if ANYONE is not happy here, then you're free to leave. We have 70 years of corrupt rule walhamduliliha we're still here. So, i'm sure we'll manage without the qadiyaqnies, so please don't worry about the land of the pure, just leave the passport on the way out!



Sir, I would suggest you keep these kind of emotional outbursts to yourself.



What exactly are you wining? Selling out the country to the highest bidder? Or are you trying to circumvent internal strife to dismember the land of the pure? There is a reason why there are lots of lamp post in Islamabad!

TO hang bloody terrorists

Its only a matter of time
Supreme Court asks if parliament can declare Pakistan a secular state - The Express Tribune

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

TO hang bloody terrorists

Its only a matter of time
Supreme Court asks if parliament can declare Pakistan a secular state - The Express Tribune

Pakistan was always secular. I think you need to go and read up what it means to be secular as I have been mentioned in my earlier posts. There is no Molvi sitting with wazir-e-azam, so I don't know why your showing the link.

 

[Zibago]

Pakistan was always secular. I think you need to go and read up what it means to be secular as I have been mentioned in my earlier posts. There is no Molvi sitting with wazir-e-azam, so I don't know why your showing the link.

Secular country dont have stupid qasas and diyat laws where rich escape by paying blood money

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Secular country dont have stupid qasas and diyat laws where rich escape by paying blood money

Who said the victims murdered family have to accept diyat? The victims family can accept life-for-life (qisas). Again this doesn't make country Islamic. All laws even in Christendom have roots in religion and have changed (amended) over time.

I suggest you read again what secular means.

 

[Zibago]

Who said the victims murdered family have to accept diyat? The victims family can accept life-for-life (qisas). Again this doesn't make country Islamic. All laws even in Christendom have roots in religion and have changed (amended) over time.

I suggest you read again what secular means.

Why should the case of the deceased be decided by the family of the deceased p.Its because of this law people like Ramon Davis and Sharukh Jataoi escape punishment

And being secular doesot mean being atheist

 

[Moonlight]

they better leave this country and go some peaceful place . i did not see their future here . pakistanis are zombies for religion

Racism or discrimination in Pakistan is not on high scale though. They shouldn't leave, but learn to respect the beliefs of others. I agree one shouldn't attack on anyone because of blasphemy. They should report of it rather taking an action on their own.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Why should the case of the deceased be decided by the family of the deceased p.Its because of this law people like Ramon Davis and Sharukh Jataoi escape punishment

And being secular doesot mean being atheist

When did i say that? Diyat is an OPTION open to the victims family, they DON'T have to take it. They can opt for Qisas, life-for-life, meaning the MURDERER is put to death, OR they can FORGIVE the MURDER and set him/her free.

So, there are 3 options for the victims family:

1). Diyat
2). Qisas
3). Forgiveness of the Murderer and set him/her free

I'm sorry not many people have time to teach Hadood punishments as this is NOT the forum for it. I've had a person on another thread who completely rejected the authenticity of hadith of nabi as'salaathu was'salaam in Abu Dawood. And yet when I asked him a basic question on hadith, he did not know, and yet he questions one of collections of 'saheeh-sitha'.

People on here are so ignorant that they don't realise with looseness are their tongue they're negating their Imaan. Take the one who rejected the collection from Abu Dawoud; hadith are sayings, actions of nabi as'salaathu was'salaam. In Arabic we say, sadaqa-rasool-Allah. And By Allah, that boy is the LIAR and our NABI as'salaathu was'salaam is truthful.

Bhai, you have good English, better than mine. I learnt it debating Hindustanis and Zionists on the net, so why don't use the internet and find out what Islam is, focusing on aqeedah.

 

[Zibago]

When did i say that? Diyat is an OPTION open to the victims family, they DON'T have to take it. They can opt for Qisas, life-for-life, meaning the MURDERER is put to death, OR they can FORGIVE the MURDER and set him/her free.

So, there are 3 options for the victims family:

1). Diyat
2). Qisas
3). Forgiveness of the Murderer and set him/her free

I'm sorry not many people have time to teach Hadood punishments as this is NOT the forum for it. I've had a person on another thread who completely rejected the authenticity of hadith of nabi as'salaathu was'salaam in Abu Dawood. And yet when I asked him a basic question on hadith, he did not know, and yet he questions one of collections of 'saheeh-sitha'.

People on here are so ignorant that they don't realise with looseness are their tongue they're negating their Imaan. Take the one who rejected the collection from Abu Dawoud; hadith are sayings, actions of nabi as'salaathu was'salaam. In Arabic we say, sadaqa-rasool-Allah. And By Allah, that boy is the LIAR and our NABI as'salaathu was'salaam is truthful.

Bhai, you have good English, better than mine. I learnt it debating Hindustanis and Zionists on the net, so why don't use the internet and find out what Islam is, focusing on aqeedah.

Families should not be given the choice of forgiving any murderer, all murderers should be punished, the blood money law is against basic human rights its like i kill you tommorow and threaten your family to accept a deal and i am off the hook, its a loop hole in our system which allows the wealthy to escape justice

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Families should not be given the choice of forgiving any murderer, all murderers should be punished, the blood money law is against basic human rights its like i kill you tommorow and threaten your family to accept a deal and i am off the hook, its a loop hole in our system which allows the wealthy to escape justice

I'm curious are you Muslim?

 

[Zibago]

I'm curious are you Muslim?

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