Pakistani soldiers remembered

[Dubious]

By Our Correspondent
Published: April 27, 2016

File photo of an operation in FATA. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: The services of 7th Indian Mountain Artillery Brigade were remembered at the Australian High Commission on the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) Day,on Monday.

The Brigade, which included soldiers from what is now Pakistan, was attached to the ANZAC forces in the 1915 Gallipoli campaign.

A contingent of former Pakistani servicemen, for the first time, also marched in the ANZAC Day parade in Canberra, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth and the North South West regional city of Armidale.

Australian High Commissioner Margaret Adamson said that the service and sacrifice of Pakistani soldiers who fought shoulder to shoulder with ANZAC soldiers at Gallipoli was a testament to the enduring friendship between Australia and Pakistan.

ANZAC Day is a national day of remembrance in Australia and New Zealand to commemorate all those who had served and died in all wars, conflicts, and peacekeeping operations. In April 1915, the ANZAC forces with the 7 Mountain Artillery Brigade had landed at Gallipoli in Turkey.

The Brigade had comprised 26 Jacob’s Battery Artillery, the 21st Kohat Mountain Battery Artillery, part of today’s Frontier Force, and the 89 Punjab Regiment, which is the Baloch Regiment today. The Brigade sustained more than 400 casualties in the first 10 days of fighting alongside the ANZACs.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 27th, 2016.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1092269/pakistani-soldiers-remembered/

 

[django]

By Our Correspondent
Published: April 27, 2016

File photo of an operation in FATA. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: The services of 7th Indian Mountain Artillery Brigade were remembered at the Australian High Commission on the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC) Day,on Monday.

The Brigade, which included soldiers from what is now Pakistan, was attached to the ANZAC forces in the 1915 Gallipoli campaign.

A contingent of former Pakistani servicemen, for the first time, also marched in the ANZAC Day parade in Canberra, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth and the North South West regional city of Armidale.

Australian High Commissioner Margaret Adamson said that the service and sacrifice of Pakistani soldiers who fought shoulder to shoulder with ANZAC soldiers at Gallipoli was a testament to the enduring friendship between Australia and Pakistan.

ANZAC Day is a national day of remembrance in Australia and New Zealand to commemorate all those who had served and died in all wars, conflicts, and peacekeeping operations. In April 1915, the ANZAC forces with the 7 Mountain Artillery Brigade had landed at Gallipoli in Turkey.

The Brigade had comprised 26 Jacob’s Battery Artillery, the 21st Kohat Mountain Battery Artillery, part of today’s Frontier Force, and the 89 Punjab Regiment, which is the Baloch Regiment today. The Brigade sustained more than 400 casualties in the first 10 days of fighting alongside the ANZACs.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 27th, 2016.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1092269/pakistani-soldiers-remembered/

These were not Pakistan soldiers, they did not represent Pakistani ideals ,they were serving the British, as part of the British Indian army, men of all creeds were in these regiments, No Pakistani soldier would even dream of fighting their Ottoman brothers.

 

[MastanKhan]

These were not Pakistan soldiers, they did not represent Pakistani ideals ,they were serving the British, as part of the British Indian army, men of all creeds were in these regiments, No Pakistani soldier would even dream of fighting their Ottoman brothers.

Hi,

I would disagree with you----. A pledge of allegiance is very strong---muslims have fought wars against other muslims.

Who did Amir Taimur defeat in what is Turkey now---and what did he do with that ruler---just search the history.

Australia (and the West in general) are no friends of Pakistan and Muslims.

Hi,

That is not correct---australians have helped us a lot----. They sold us the mirages they were retiring----.

They also helped us with working on the acoustic signature of the Agosta 90 regarding a prop noise I believe----.

Now they may not like the pakistani origin living in australia---that is a different story----.

 

[third eye]

These were not Pakistan soldiers, they did not represent Pakistani ideals ,they were serving the British, as part of the British Indian army, men of all creeds were in these regiments, No Pakistani soldier would even dream of fighting their Ottoman brothers.

How would the Ottomans be any different from the Yemenis whom the PAF pilots operated against ?

 

[Apprentice]

How would the Ottomans be any different from the Yemenis whom the PAF pilots operated against ?

The Ottomans were a full fledged Islamic empire.

 

[MastanKhan]

maybe, but thats still better for me since i still chose to live in a country i represent n love even in its most testing times.
I guess yr experience in living in overseas since so long has influenced yr thinking and approach towards life in general and pride in specific, that explains why yr searching for pride in some foreign ANZAC forces, fighting for their own aims and their own goals which have no positive impact or relevance to the Republic of Pakistan at all.

And to realize that one dont need to be a 60 years old.

Hi,

I am a very humble person---I do not have any pride---and neither do I search for it. And I have a disdain for those who call themselves proud----and say they have pride---.

Before I lived in the U S---I lived 28 years of my life in pakistan----in a fairly well of house hold---and even then I did not have pride---nor I looked for it.

You are lost my boy---you need to pick up and read the history of muslims the world over---and see just like any other religious group---how the muslims invaded and killed each other---.

Son---you are so innocent & brain washed about these issues---I cannot change you----remember when these muslims started the suicide bombings and terr attacks on pakistanis---did you also claim that they were not muslims---I guess you might have.

 

[Winchester]

This history and these traditions helped make the Pakistan army what it is today.

The most professional fighting army in the Muslim world today !

 

[Jamwal's]

The brigade was originally raised for rugged mountainous terrain and equipped with six 10 Pounder guns and comprising about 300 men half Sikhs and half Punjabi Musalman from undivided Punjab apart from British officers.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Rest in peace.

 

[Dubious]

These were not Pakistan soldiers, they did not represent Pakistani ideals ,they were serving the British, as part of the British Indian army, men of all creeds were in these regiments, No Pakistani soldier would even dream of fighting their Ottoman brothers.

I know...I am aware this recognition was given by media...hence why I highlighted:

what is now Pakistan,

They could be Sikh, Muslim, Hindu or Christian the article only said that they belonged to what is now Pakistan! And yes they were under the British flag...such things they recognized us..

Mind you even NZ and Australia were fighting under the British crown...so no surprise what that army constituted off

 

[Psychic]

How would the Ottomans be any different from the Yemenis whom the PAF pilots operated against ?

source?

 

[MastanKhan]

I know...I am aware this recognition was given by media...hence why I highlighted:


They could be Sikh, Muslim, Hindu or Christian the article only said that they belonged to what is now Pakistan! And yes they were under the British flag...such things they recognized us..

Mind you even NZ and Australia were fighting under the British crown...so no surprise what that army constituted off


Actually we are no one to claim them as anything....Even in a battle field our prophet said even if the guy in front of you recites shahadah and you know he did it not out of the purity of his heart, you still cant kill him...THAT is what a Muslim is not to judge why but just to accept and leave rest to ALLAH....

But one cant deny these people were from Pakistan...Were they Muslim or not is their business not ours! Giving a religious side to the post is absurd...I gave it only a regional outlook!


At the rest of the people...The Ottomon though started off as Muslim...it later did too many compromises....Every empire has good and bad! As for indians trying to drag in Yemen...please refrain from derailing!

Hi,

Stop the B S---suddenly you have started to preach. What world have you been living in---?

ready to quote the saying of Prophet Muhammad at an instance and yet rapes--sodomy---flourish in every community of pakistan.

Are you kids eternally stupid---. Who did Zaheeruddin Muhammad Babur fight---Who did Sher Shah Suri fight----Who did Ahmed Shah Durrani Kill---who did Yazeed kill----.

You kids are so dumb---I just want to--shoot myself in the foot. You have no clue of your history---yet you dump the so called saying of Prophet Muhammad or the run.

You know why your country has problems---because you kids have no vision and no learning abilities when you start quoting such things---and you know why you don't have them---because your elders don't have them---so they have not taught you otherwise.

Who in his / hers right mind would say such a thing in this war on terror.

 

[django]

Hi,

I would disagree with you----. A pledge of allegiance is very strong---muslims have fought wars against other muslims.

Who did Amir Taimur defeat in what is Turkey now---and what did he do with that ruler---just search the history.

@MastanKhan I am afraid I will have to disagree with you on this one, usually I am on the same page as you when it comes to F-16s but on this we will have to agree to disagree, Those poor chaps were serving the strategic interest of Britain who had plundered and kept their country backward, ie killed off the shipping, textile industry, prohibited research in train technology etc not to mention the massacres of people from where the troops originated, I doubt those Etonians who were commanding these troops gave a rats *** for these Muslim and Sikh soldiers, who were for all intents and purposes slaves.
The situation with Tamerlane is different as he was master of his own destiny, unlike these poor individuals, he was pursuing his own INTERESTS.kudos

How would the Ottomans be any different from the Yemenis whom the PAF pilots operated against ?

First and foremost , that was in the strategic interest of our nation to maintain strong links with the Saudis, you may not know but millions of our countrymen are and were working over their and we get many other perks from the Saudis ie cheap oil especially in times of need ie after nuclear tests, and the action was only in a limited capacity, Those folks who were fighting for the Brits were not fighting for their own interest period.kudos

As the poster at No 2 said attacking Ottomans would against the ' ideals ' of Pakistan, is attacking Yemenis in conformity with the ideals ?

@django

The yemenis have been making mischief for our strategic ally Saudi for decades, what is wrong with us assisting one of our most important allies, did you guys not help the Sri-Lankans ooops I just remembered your PM got assassinated for it.

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir could you please elaborate this post more

Hi,

A terrorist comes and slaughters people---when you catch him---he recite the Klamah---and the faithful pull out a supposed statement related to Prophet Muhammad----.

I personally believe that it was a stunt started by the criminals / kafirs who wanted to save their lives after commiting crimes---and when got caught----they would recite the Kalmah and state that the Prophet said that---so you should let them go.

Anything that saves a criminal they statrt relating the salvation to Prophet Muhammad's saying.

@MastanKhan I am afraid I will have to disagree with you on this one, usually I am on the same page as you when it comes to F-16s but on this we will have to agree to disagree, Those poor chaps were serving the strategic interest of Britain who had plundered and kept their country backward, ie killed off the shipping, textile industry, prohibited research in train technology etc not to mention the massacres of people from where the troops originated, I doubt those Etonians who were commanding these troops gave a rats *** for these Muslim and Sikh soldiers, who were for all intents and purposes slaves.
The situation with Tamerlane is different as he was master of his own destiny, unlike these poor individuals, he was pursuing his own INTERESTS.kudos


First and foremost , that was in the strategic interest of our nation to maintain strong links with the Saudis, you may not know but millions of our countrymen are and were working over their and we get many other perks from the Saudis ie cheap oil especially in times of need ie after nuclear tests, and the action was only in a limited capacity, Those folks who were fighting for the Brits were not fighting for their own interest period.kudos


The yemenis have been making mischief for our strategic ally Saudi for decades, what is wrong with us assisting one of our most important allies, did you guys not help the Sri-Lankans ooops I just remembered your PM got assassinated for it.

Hi,

You have to understand the pledge of allegiance---it is the most powerful tool that there is for a soldier and a citizen.

A soldier does not question the order----he should have thought about it before crossing over the line and signing on the dotted line or putting the thumb print.

You may disagree but that is the bottomline---. Once the soldier of a military starts to question---that military has issues and the problem must be nipped in the bud right away.

 

[django]

Hi,

You have to understand the pledge of allegiance---it is the most powerful tool that there is for a soldier and a citizen.

A soldier does not question the order----he should have thought about it before crossing over the line and signing on the dotted line or putting the thumb print.

You may disagree but that is the bottomline---. Once the soldier of a military starts to question---that military has issues and the problem must be nipped in the bud right away.

This line of thinking exonerates those Wehrmacht and SS troops who committed atrocities of the worst kind against Jews. I can certainly understand what you are saying as it is essential for discipline and keeping things together, but their are limits to the actions of a soldier imo. In regards to the British Indian army, those chaps who enlisted should have found some alternative profession that is all I can say.kudos