Pakistani Passport holder @ Israel "How?"

[Psychic]

Status quo must be maintained. No need to accept Israel as it will bring out more bad than good.
These are distractions; our only focus should be putting our house in order.

I'd welcome relations between Pakistan and Israel, but looking at this girl's Facebook profile, she comes off as obnoxious and pretentious. The only reason she seems to be mildly relevant is because of her stance on Israel (which she readily milks for attention).

 

[Hyperion]

Agreed. Period.

Just one thing, I really don't understand the Arab and Palestinian love from members here. They really need to understand the role of PLO and Arafat in many of Pakistan's ills. Some of them were DIRECTLY responsible for what's happening in Pakistan today. I MEAN DIRECTLY.

our only focus should be putting our house in order.

 

[Hiptullha]

Status quo must be maintained. No need to accept Israel as it will bring out more bad than good.
These are distractions; our only focus should be putting our house in order.

I'm not arguing for immediate relations.

 

[Hyperion]

Only if it helps our national interests. For example, if our relations with Israel can bring toxicity to Israeli-Indian nexus, then why not? At the same time, if history was our guide, relations with ANY Arab state are irrelevant at best, nothing good could EVER come out of it.

I'm not arguing for immediate relations.

 

[Hiptullha]

Only if it helps our national interests.

Looking at Israel's scientific and technological output, I think it's obvious good relations with Israel would be extremely beneficial for us.

 

[Psychic]

Just one thing, I really don't understand the Arab and Palestinian love from members here. They really need to understand the role of PLO and Arafat in many of Pakistan's ills. Some of them were DIRECTLY responsible for what's happening in Pakistan today. I MEAN DIRECTLY.

Arabs don't give a flying f**k on Kashmir, Indo-Pak wars etc...all they care about is related only to the Arab race. To them, other Muslims(All non-Arabs) are irrelevant. Just imagine if tomorrow, Pakistan goes to war with India, which Arab nation will help ? Will Palestinians even provide lip service ?

I'm not arguing for immediate relations.

I am sure there are back-channel relations. It must be kept that way.

Looking at Israel's scientific and technological output, I think it's obvious good relations with Israel would be extremely beneficial for us.

Israel will never risk it's relations with India for us. For technology and science, there are 194 other nations besides Israel recognizing of which will only give breathing space to terrorists and a justification to their attacks who may be able to draw more supporters from public then.

 

[Sunan]

Agreed. Period.

Just one thing, I really don't understand the Arab and Palestinian love from members here. They really need to understand the role of PLO and Arafat in many of Pakistan's ills. Some of them were DIRECTLY responsible for what's happening in Pakistan today. I MEAN DIRECTLY.

Can u give us some examples of these direct responsiblity??

 

[SQ8]

Many Pakistani dual nationals end up going to Jerusalem. That is nothing new.

 

[tarrar]

Pakistan should NOT accept Israel & Pakistan should NOT have any diplomatic ties with Israel, end of story.

 

[SQ8]

Pakistan should NOT accept Israel & Pakistan should NOT have any diplomatic ties with Israel, end of story.

Yet Pakistan can purchase F-16 spares from Israel and get intelligence from them on a terrorist organization like Hizb-ut-Tahrir.. because we are hypocrites.

 

[Imtiaz_Sarwar]

I agree with all those who said that any Pakistani with dual citizenship can go to to Israel on their other passport. I also agree that it is no big deal. Just a cheap shot at getting some publicity.
There is a saying of our prophet that if you want to make a pilgrimage then it should only be to three places. 1. Kaaba. 2. Masjid-a-Nabvi. 3. Masjid-a-Aqsa. It is a sad fact that today Aqsa mosque is in jewish control and we cannot visit it. Pakistan does not recognize Israel. It is up to our government to decide about Israel and we respect our government's decision.
If the women wants to visit Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem then good or her. Otherwise she is wasting her time.

 

[rockstar08]

When will Saudis stop carpet bombing Yemenis?

That's not the Topic Akhi
and KSA is bombing a fully armed Rebellion .. and you can not compare Yemen with GAZA, have you even see Gaza ? and the indiscriminate bombing campaigns by IAF ?

Yet Pakistan can purchase F-16 spares from Israel and get intelligence from them on a terrorist organization like Hizb-ut-Tahrir.. because we are hypocrites.

any source ? or just a fantasy ?

 

[RazorMC]

My relatives have been to Israel on their non-Pakistani passport and they found it to be a really nice place.

But the comments from some of our members here about Pakistan using its relations with Israel to help the Palestenians are plain ignorant. There is no reason for Israel to listen to us where there security is concerned. They haven't listened to older friends, why would they ever lend us their ears?

 

[CriticalThinker02]

When did Palestinian officials condemn India last time that our borders got bombed in war or relative peace? Never. Please explain your love for people you have no contact with?

My personal position? I don't care about either - the Israelis or the Palestinians, however, if you ask me who I despise more? I'd go with Palestinians. If you ask why, then I'd say read about treacherous PLO (vis-a-vis Pakistan) and Yaser Arafat, and before that read more about Palestinians and Arabs in general, better yet, experience some Arab love yourself.

Furthermore, next time don't confuse national interests with your brainwashed mind.

At-least I am not a racist begot who demonizes Arabs because of a few and justifies relations with Israel when they are bombing babies in disguise of "national interest", next time don't voice your "concerns" when India kills innocent Muslims in Kashmir when you just said you don't care when Israel bombs innocent Muslims in Palestine.

Please explain your love for Kashmiri Muslims who you have no contact with?

I would rather be a "brainwash fool" than be a hypocrite like you, you have no faith towards your fellow Muslim brothers and sister as clearly evident in your comment so don't you dare use faith as a means to show your "love" for the Kashmiris.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Author is visiting the Jewish State of Israel which gets millions of tourists each year. Author is not visiting Iran or Saudi Arabia where you are arrested on false accusations on daily basis

Millions of tourists each year - but even tourists face harassment there including many Christians as well. Dont think its appropriate to bring in Iran or Saudi here