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The issue of legalizing homosexuality has led to heated arguments in the corridors of power in New Delhi, but that hasn't stopped a Pakistani gay from professing his love for an Indian man.

A middle-class accounting student from Lahore, who founded a website called 'Pakistan Gays' two years ago for homosexuals, says he is in love with an Indian man he met on the Internet.

Yet he harbours no hope of living in a gay relationship in either Pakistan or India where homosexuality is illegal and tolerance for gays low.

"It is difficult to be homosexual in Pakistan...because you always fear that if the people around you knew about your sexuality, what bad feelings they would have about you. We think that we are born this way, but still we feel we are doing wrong," said the 22-year-old, who spoke to the Boston Globe on condition of anonymity.

The accounting student, who runs the paid website from Internet cafes so his family doesn't find out, has signed up about 600 members of whom 302 have identified themselves as gay, 241 as bisexual and the rest as transgender.

Homosexuality is a crime punishable by whipping, imprisonment or even death in Pakistan.

However, the report in the Boston Globe said, "But across all classes and social groups, men have sex with men. In villages throughout the country, young boys are often forcibly 'taken' by older men, starting a cycle of abuse and revenge that social activists and observers say is the common pattern of homosexual sex in Pakistan.

"Often these boys move to the cities and become prostitutes. Most people know it happens from the police to the wives of the men involved."

But not all of Pakistan's gays are leading anonymous lives.

Faisal Alam, a Pakistani American founded Al-Fatiha Foundation, a Washington-based organisation for gay and lesbian Muslims, in 1998.

Closer home, 27-year-old banker Jalaluddin Ahmed Khan has launched a blog to voice the angst of the gay community, which is forced to lead a hush-hush life as same sex relationships are illegal in Pakistan.

Khan describes himself as a "psychotic, sarcastic and socialist blogger from Karachi" who writes about the vibrant gay life in the southern port city and in Pakistan, and invites people "looking for gay love" to join him in the virtual world.

"Homosexuality is religiously unacceptable in Pakistan. Homosexuality is socially unacceptable in Pakistan. (But) Homosexuality is an entrenched cultural truth in Pakistani history. And in Pakistani life today," Khan wrote about the hypocritical attitude towards gays in his blog "Tuzk-e-Jalali".

"As long as people are quiet about it and pursue homosexual desires before or after marriage and are not caught in the act, it is OK. Men are allowed incredible leeway in their sexual pursuits as long as they are not discovered," he wrote.

Khan feels Karachi is the city where homosexuality finds the most social acceptance. "Peshawar and Quetta are cities where acceptance of pederasty and the homosexual act are considered normal but any open avowal of this would not be acceptable to anyone. In contrast, in Karachi people might still accept you for being a homosexual."

Khan, who claims most Pakistani homosexuals are forced to marry and that some lead active gay lives post-marriage, detailed in a long post his parents' reaction when he told them he was gay and decided to call off his engagement.

"I am gay. I have told my father, mother and sisters about it. They find it disgusting, wrong and morally corrupt. They are not ready to accept that I am gay...I want to be gay.

"I want to live a life of my choosing. That is not possible if I live with my parents like all other normal Pakistani guys," he wrote.

Khan says there are hardly any "cruising spots" for gays in Pakistan unlike other parts of the world -- "(therefore) beach parties and farm house parties are quite common because of the secluded location".

But the plus side, according to Khan, is that Pakistan's gay community is not divided into strong sub-groups like in the rest of the world

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What a load of BS.

Homo sexuality is practiced in Pakistan, as in every other nation on earth, and has probably been since the earliest humans inhabited this planet. There is no intolerance for people indulging in homosexual acts (more's the pity), although it is regularly an issue that homosexuals are teased with by others. There is more of a comic/tragic reaction to it, than one of moral abhorrence.

The problem is not being gay, it is being gayist, and promoting the urban ideology/religion of gayism.

This is an extremist ideology, propounded by god knows who (must be some highups pulling strings). But this ideology has got many people in its grips, and it is being spread to places like Pakistan by militant gays. I do not use these terms lightly.

Gayism, whose followers can be called Gayists, believe in wearing their sexuality on their sleeves, with scant regard for the sensibilites of others, while rotating through as many 'partners' as they can find. It seems they are more interested in shocking than sex. Having as many partners as possible seems to be the name of the game.

The guy's lament for 'crusing spots' in Pakistan gives the game away. These people don't just want to have homosex in the privacy of their homes, they want to be able to do it anywhere, anytime they wish, while other people should just sod off.

Pakistan and Bharat are societies where being sexually 'out there' and wearing one's sexuality(even if straight) on one's sleeve is seen as uncouth and barbaric, so why should these people get special treatment just because they are homosexuals and lesbians? Nobody likes 'slappers' (sluts) of any kind, even the gay variety.

I like things the way there are in Pakistan. You do what you want, as long as it is not done in somebody elses face. That is what Islam teaches too. As long as an act does not impunge on the rights of the society, u're free to do it. But once it affects the environment around you, then punishments like whipping and imprisonment start to sound music to the ears.

I say, lets be rid of this gay activism, militism. Yes to Gays, No to Gayists.
 
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Hahaha rubish once again first the american gay bomb now gay dudes uff maro salo kyo haha enough of this nonsense this is a defence form i think some member action have led to this trashy subject haha u know who u are!!
 
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Homo Sexuality and Lesbianism are unnatural acts. This inhuman act is strongly condemned in Quraan. People of Prophet Lot were completely wiped out and cities, Sodom and Gummorah were distroyed by Allah. Aids and related diseases are the present form of punishments from Allah.

No matter what excuse we give to satisfy ourself or to the person who is asking the question but the truth remain the same that, Pathans tu sirf "badnam" hey, as they have their name attach to this practice because they practice it openly, as such they are notorious in that act because of 'badh achha badnam burra". While this is bitter but an unfortunate fact that Homosexuality exists with fast growing trend in society every where and all parts of Pakistan. Even though most of us may be well aware that, in punjab areas the Imams of mosques have their name attached to this practice. ,

People involved in such activities are pervert and sick. They need a psychologist or surgeon to correct their brain. I think its cureble once we recognised that reality, we can tackle it politely like to treat drugs edicted, and psycothreapy to such peoples with our social values powerd by Islamic parameters, to encourage them to fight against their abnormality, but it need a firm social system Can we have it. People of backward areas are needed to be educated.

I also found a good link regardless to whom it related, but noticed how they are guiding in the subject matter. Please visit the link in this regard: Islam & Homosexuality
 
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gay act is un natral and its abuse of humen body i think humanty feel shame when this will happend on earth.even dogs and dunkey never do this.
 
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I personnally dont like gays or lesbians but i cant say no to them either cuz every man can follow his own conscience, provided it does not interfere with sane reason or bid him against the liberty of his fellow men.
 
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ALL GAYS SHOULD BE KILLED!

Due to lack of inter-mixing or socialising opportunities with opposite sex , I feel that most of the blokes in Pakistan are Gay by compulsion rather than Gays by choice…In western society, where there are ample opportunities to find a partner of opposite sex, when someone declares him/her self gay, its their choice . However (for majority), in Pakistan things are a bit different...

The spectrum of sexual orientation is a continuum with men who fancy women at one end …and ….women who fancy men at the other. In the middle, is everyone else… IMO, someone who is gay has no more control over the sex they prefer than someone who is straight. I am sure it’s not a difficult concept to understand.

OK. well I am straight, but have friends and know people who are gay, lesbian, straight...and oddly enough, the issue of their sexuality is irrelevant...it's the person as a human being that is relevant...this rather simple fact may have escaped here however.

Sexuality is a complex issue....and if any of those posting on here can actually come up with a definitive explanation as to how our respective sexualities are induced.....let me know and I'll be your agent....we'll make a bloody fortune from the publishing rights because as far as I am aware, nobody so far has been able to.

Only few words for homosexuals: Acknowledge the "sensibilities" of the majority (heterosexuals) and just quietly get on with your life. Don't blow a trumpet about what you do with your knob or your slot. Don’t bother everybody else with your lifestyle. Subtly treat your sexuality as the fairly small part of your life that it is, and then it will probably be accepted as no big deal when it becomes known.
 
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Due to lack of inter-mixing or socialising opportunities with opposite sex , I feel that most of the blokes in Pakistan are Gay by compulsion rather than Gays by choice…In western society, where there are ample opportunities to find a partner of opposite sex, when someone declares him/her self gay, its their choice . However (for majority), in Pakistan things are a bit different...

The spectrum of sexual orientation is a continuum with men who fancy women at one end …and ….women who fancy men at the other. In the middle, is everyone else… IMO, someone who is gay has no more control over the sex they prefer than someone who is straight. I am sure it’s not a difficult concept to understand.

OK. well I am straight, but have friends and know people who are gay, lesbian, straight...and oddly enough, the issue of their sexuality is irrelevant...it's the person as a human being that is relevant...this rather simple fact may have escaped here however.

Sexuality is a complex issue....and if any of those posting on here can actually come up with a definitive explanation as to how our respective sexualities are induced.....let me know and I'll be your agent....we'll make a bloody fortune from the publishing rights because as far as I am aware, nobody so far has been able to.

Only few words for homosexuals: Acknowledge the "sensibilities" of the majority (heterosexuals) and just quietly get on with your life. Don't blow a trumpet about what you do with your knob or your slot. Don’t bother everybody else with your lifestyle. Subtly treat your sexuality as the fairly small part of your life that it is, and then it will probably be accepted as no big deal when it becomes known.

I learned this in psychology. Homosexuality is often a result of biology than of choice. Certain prenatal hormones can determine sexual orientation. So if someone is a homosexual, it may not be their fault.

I personally don't know any homosexuals, but i don't think they are the kind who flaunt their sexuality as shown in movies. I think they are just like heterosexuals in every manner except sexual orientation.
 
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