Pakistani Forces against Militants.

[Last Hope]

PESHAWAR: A Pakistani Taliban commander believed to be harbouring foreign militants was killed along with four others in a roadside bomb explosion in South Waziristan tribal agency, officials said Thursday.

Ghulam Jan, believed to be a key commander of the outlawed Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), was killed along with four accomplices when the improvised explosive device targeted his vehicle on Wednesday evening in Birmal tehsil, located about 27 kilometres from Wana, the main town in South Waziristan.

Assistant Political Agent Shahid Ali Khan confirmed that five people were killed in the blast which completely destroyed the vehicle.

Local officials confirmed the incident took place around 7 pm on Wednesday, but access to the area is limited and reports from the semi-autonomous tribal region, infested with Taliban and al Qaeda militants, are difficult to verify.

Jan, who had a reputation for supporting and harbouring Uzebk, Tajik and Central Asian militants, was earlier believed to have been ousted from the area by the pro-government Mullah Nazir group.

“He was anti-government and well known for his support to foreigners,” a official said on condition of anonymity.

The Mullah Nazir group had flushed out Uzbek fighters and anti-state militants from Wazir areas in 2008 and 2009.

Other people who had died in Wednesday’s blast were identified as Jan’s uncle, Juma Khan, and his close aides Mir Gul, Asmatullah and Kharote.

No militant group has yet claimed responsibility for the blast.

Key TTP commander among five killed in South Waziristan blast - DAWN.COM

 

[Jango]

Alot of intel raids in Green Town Lahore.

4 women were arrested from a house with a lot of computers and tech stuff like tat.

Yesterday Qari Bilal (name seems familiar) was alos arrested, he has links with Taliban.

 

[Edevelop]

Ten militants killed in Turbat clashes: officials


QUETTA: Frontier Constabulary (FC) claim to have killed ten armed militants in Balochistan's volatile Kech (Turbat) district on Saturday morning. Security forces launched a search operation in the troubled area after the militants attacked their convoy.

An FC official, who requested not to be named, said ten armed militants were killed and several others injured in a fierce battle in Mand area of Kech (Turbat) district.

He said two important commanders of a banned separatist group were also among the injured militants. "Since morning, severe battle is underway," he said.

He however did not confirm whether the injured militants were under the custody of security forces or not.

Both sides were using heavy weapons and more troops were dispatched to the restive Mand area to restore order.

FC Spokesman said forces had launched a search operation in the area following the attack on their convoy. "Forces did not suffer any human loss," he said.

The dead militants were yet to be identified since the search operation was still underway.

The situation turned tense and panic prevailed in the area after armed clashes.

Kech is the hometown of Balochistan Chief Minister, Dr. Abdul Malik Baloch. Armed militants have targeted security forces and pro-government politicians for over seven years.

Balochistan, Pakistan’s resource-rich and largest province by area, suffers from a recent upsurge in sectarian violence and attacks by separatist militants.

Ten militants killed in Turbat clashes: officials - DAWN.COM

 

[fatman17]

Saturday, September 21, 2013


Pakistan Army, government at loggerheads over Taliban talks



* Nawaz hopes to tame militancy through negotiations

* Army opposes talks with TTP, saying previous attempts to bring militants to the negotiating table yielded no results


ISLAMABAD: Disagreement over how to handle an escalating insurgency has put the army on a collision course with the government, with the military increasingly vocal in its criticism of civilian leaders, officials and diplomats said.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif who came to power in May has promised to tame militancy through negotiations, but four months on, talks have yet to start and attacks continue daily. The army has avoided open confrontation with Nawaz and his government but tension is on the rise. “The army chief ... is thinking: ‘Mian Sahib (Nawaz Sharif), enough is enough’,” a senior army officer serving in the strife-plagued tribal area along the Afghan border told Reuters during a visit to Islamabad.

The military-civilian discord has been the source of tension throughout the country’s history but Nawaz’s election has raised hopes the government would get a larger say following the country’s first transition between civilian administrations. Nawaz promised to hold talk with the militants during the election campaign, a welcome vow for many Pakistanis who, while abhorring the bombers, have never been convinced of the necessity of joining the US-led “war on terror”.

The army, which keeps thousands of troops in the tribal belt, opposes talks with the Pakistani Taliban, saying previous attempts to bring the militants to the negotiating table yielded no results. Frustration spilled into the open on Sunday when a roadside bomb killed a general and another officer near the Afghan border, just days after government officials promised to launch peace negotiations with the Pakistani Taliban soon. “This incident has dealt a serious blow (to the peace process),” Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar told parliament this week. “We have come to a standstill.”

The tension comes at a crucial time when speculation is mounting over who will replace the army chief, General Ashfaq Kayani, arguably the country’s most powerful man, who is due to retire in November. The army put out a toughly worded statement this week. “While reaffirming the army’s support for the political process, (Kayani) also said, unequivocally, that terrorists will not be allowed to take advantage of it,” it said. “The army has the ability and the will to take the fight to the terrorists.”

The United States is pushing Islamabad to step up its campaign against groups such as the Haqqani network which regularly attacks US forces in Afghanistan from hideouts in Pakistani mountains. “The absence of a strong government narrative on how to counter terrorism is quite disturbing for everyone, including the army chief,” said a senior Western diplomat in Islamabad. The Pakistani Taliban are a fragmented alliance of factions with no coherent voice. Some within the group have announced preconditions, while others have denied this. The government would not say who would talk to whom, where and when.

“Until they (government) say out loud who the enemy is, there can be no policy and there can be no results,” said the senior military officer. The army says it would not agree to any preconditions, particularly the withdrawal of troops from tribal areas. “They are saying: ‘Get out of here and let us be kings’,” another army source also serving in the tribal belt said of the Pakistani Taliban. “That’s not an option.” reuters

 

[Jango]

At first, the Army said 'OK, let's give talks a chance, go ahead'. But the government keeps on dilly dallying the issue and postponing it while the Taliban keep on killing us. So the Army now has said to Nawaz Sharif 'Abhi kuch karna hai to karo warna hum kar lete hain'.

Ya aar ya paar, no more of this sitting on the fence thing.

 

[Side-Winder]

LOWER DIR: An exchange of fire between terrorists and security forces resulted in the deaths of 12 terrorists while at least two two security officials suffered injuries in Lower Dir near the Pakistan-Afghan border late on Saturday night, reported Express News.

Express News Correspondent Ehtisham Khan reported that security officials were patrolling the border in Lower Dir at 10pm when a group of militants attempted to cross over from Afghanistan into Pakistan.

Security forces engaged the militants in a two-hour long exchange of fire. The firing resulted in the deaths of 12 militants who were part of a group estimated to be 15-20 individuals strong.

The Dir district of Khyber Pukhtunkhwa has been susceptible to militant and terror activities for a long time.

Last Sunday, at least 16 pro-government tribals, including three women, were killed and nine more wounded in a bomb attack targeting a passenger van in Lower Dir. Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) had claimed responsibility for the attack.

Lower Dir: 12 terrorists killed, 2 security officials injured in clashes – The Express Tribune

 

[FalconsForPeace]

IED blast kills 3 militant commanders in N. Pakistan
ISLAMABAD, Sept 22 (KUNA) -- At least three militant commanders including a spokesperson of banned outfit Lashkar i Islam (LI) were killed when an Improvised Explosive Device (IED) they were making exploded in Khyber Agency tribal area of northern Pakistan bordering Afghanistan on Sunday, said officials.
According to security officials, LI Commander Spokesperson Younas Khan, alias Abu Rasheed Lashkari, along with Commander Ghufran and Abu Darda of Tariq group of banned Tehrek e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) who were supported by the LI have been killed in the explosion in LI Headquarters in Bara tehsil of Khyber Agency.
The LI is supporting Tariq Gedar group of Bara area that attacks civilian and military convoys on Kohat road and in Peshawar City. The Levies officials have confirmed the incident and said the office of the LI was badly damaged.
The Khyber Agency is one of the seven regions of Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan, governed by tribal laws. The militant insurgency in the area has claimed lives of many civilians and military men over the past few years.
Earlier this month, at least three military officials including two senior officers were killed when a roadside bomb targeted their vehicle in Upper Dir Pakistani tribal region. Major General Sanaullah, Lieutenant Colonel Tauseef, and Lance Nayak Irfan Sattar of Pakistan Army were killed in Upper Dir area when an IED went off near the Pak-Afghan border. (end) sbk.wsa KUNA 221044 Sep 13NNNN
KUNA : IED blast kills 3 militant commanders in N. Pakistan - General - 22/09/2013

 

[Assault Rifle]

LOWER DIR: An exchange of fire between terrorists and security forces resulted in the deaths of 12 terrorists while at least two two security officials suffered injuries in Lower Dir near the Pakistan-Afghan border late on Saturday night, reported Express News.

Express News Correspondent Ehtisham Khan reported that security officials were patrolling the border in Lower Dir at 10pm when a group of militants attempted to cross over from Afghanistan into Pakistan.

Security forces engaged the militants in a two-hour long exchange of fire. The firing resulted in the deaths of 12 militants who were part of a group estimated to be 15-20 individuals strong.

The Dir district of Khyber Pukhtunkhwa has been susceptible to militant and terror activities for a long time.

Last Sunday, at least 16 pro-government tribals, including three women, were killed and nine more wounded in a bomb attack targeting a passenger van in Lower Dir. Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) had claimed responsibility for the attack.

Lower Dir: 12 terrorists killed, 2 security officials injured in clashes – The Express Tribune

TTP spokesperson Shahidullah Shahid has issued a statement on this incident saying that the 13 TTP fighters were executed by Pakistan Army in cold blood after taking them out of jail.
He added that organization will take revenge for this.
Courtesy: Umar Media.

 

[Areesh]

TTP spokesperson Shahidullah Shahid has issued a statement on this incident saying that the 13 TTP fighters were executed by Pakistan Army in cold blood after taking them out of jail.
He added that organization will take revenge for this.
Courtesy: Umar Media.

If PA has really done this, then salute to PA. You have to be an animal to fight these animals. Good work PA.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Unfortunately for the time being those terrorist rats are having a field day especially in KPK which is an accessible target for terrorism and chaos ( due to the fact that it is in close proximity to F.A.T.A.)
But if you keep a close eye at how things are happening and are being planned or expected to happen it will become obvious that the next 3-4 months (means the winter) will pass with some changes/shuffling in the faces of people serving at high command of our institutions.

This time can be bought to engage the Tehreik e Terrorism Pakistan in a dialogue.
But there are higher chances of failure.As there are multiple groups involved and every TTP league has her own demands, her own list that she wants to shop.Of course we can't entertain them all.
We can't dissolve the government and scrap our constitution just because some Uzbeks,Afghans and chechens want us to.

"The best" result that we can get out of this so called dialogue will be that the few groups that are already divided in their cause will fall back and meanwhile as mentioned above we'll be getting our due time for few changes here and there.

Since those nutjobs don't understand the real meaning of a political dialogue and also there are more than one groups,it'll culminate in a Military action against them.Also now as that election climate is over.And Nawaz must have learnt ( as a reaction to the current state of affairs) that whatever was cooking before he came to reign was not supposed to be dealt with a dialogue. With that his and Imran's promise to give the TTP guys a fair chance is going to be fulfilled so there will be little left to be done.

Therefore, i see it ending up on a Military campaign(which most probably can be launched during the earlier part of the next year) to clean the mess & this analysis in almost a sequela to the one which i shared in the past.

For reference it's quoted below.

That's very disturbing.Peshawar is situated right at the door step of this troubled zone.Those cancer cells keep on crossing the check posts because our immune system couldn't pick them.And this is going to keep on happening unless their base is hit and their arteries for recruitment and weaponization are cut.

I don't want to criticize someone just for the sake of a fashion.But i feel that NS sent a pretty wrong message right from the start.

The state must have taken a strong stance with diplomacy and force being used at the same time.With the diplomacy just keeping an eye on the pulse of those terrorist and telling them, we are ready for the talks," ready when you are".....and the force acting on the front to make them talk or at least make them flee far away from the city centers.

Now that nothing like this is happening, the overall phenomenon of the US troops leaving the arena and the Pakistani government showing an appeasing attitude, they are getting all the encouragement that they could get, to show us their rage and make the people suffer from this terrorist outrage.

 

[Kompromat]

TTP spokesperson Shahidullah Shahid has issued a statement on this incident saying that the 13 TTP fighters were executed by Pakistan Army in cold blood after taking them out of jail.
He added that organization will take revenge for this.
Courtesy: Umar Media.

Too bad they weren't gased.

 

[ghilzai]

They deserve a on the spot trial and punishment, if found with a gun in your hand, during operation if yout are caught with weapons or seen attacking security forces or have been aiding and abetting, then you deserve on the spot penalty a bullet in the back of the head.

 

[Kompromat]

They deserve a on the spot trial and punishment, if found with a gun in your hand, during operation if yout are caught with weapons or seen attacking security forces or have been aiding and abetting, then you deserve on the spot penalty a bullet in the back of the head.

No, they need to be handed over to Jirgas all over KPK for punishment under the Pashtun 'PashtunWali'. Let the people who have lost their loved ones and jiggar kay tukray to punish these bearded monsters for they have killed too many of our fine, men, women, children and destroyed an ancient way of life!

 

[Jungibaaz]

If PA has really done this, then salute to PA. You have to be an animal to fight these animals. Good work PA.

Personally, I'd never condone such an incident.

But it goes without saying, I have immense empathy for our boys. They work hard, they lay down their lives in the most brave way, and for what? For courts to release them, for them to escape jails and for the political parties to negotiate with them.

However, we should be a nation of laws. That should be what separates US and THEM.

Saturday, September 21, 2013


Pakistan Army, government at loggerheads over Taliban talks



* Nawaz hopes to tame militancy through negotiations

* Army opposes talks with TTP, saying previous attempts to bring militants to the negotiating table yielded no results


ISLAMABAD: Disagreement over how to handle an escalating insurgency has put the army on a collision course with the government, with the military increasingly vocal in its criticism of civilian leaders, officials and diplomats said.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif who came to power in May has promised to tame militancy through negotiations, but four months on, talks have yet to start and attacks continue daily. The army has avoided open confrontation with Nawaz and his government but tension is on the rise. “The army chief ... is thinking: ‘Mian Sahib (Nawaz Sharif), enough is enough’,” a senior army officer serving in the strife-plagued tribal area along the Afghan border told Reuters during a visit to Islamabad.

The military-civilian discord has been the source of tension throughout the country’s history but Nawaz’s election has raised hopes the government would get a larger say following the country’s first transition between civilian administrations. Nawaz promised to hold talk with the militants during the election campaign, a welcome vow for many Pakistanis who, while abhorring the bombers, have never been convinced of the necessity of joining the US-led “war on terror”.

The army, which keeps thousands of troops in the tribal belt, opposes talks with the Pakistani Taliban, saying previous attempts to bring the militants to the negotiating table yielded no results. Frustration spilled into the open on Sunday when a roadside bomb killed a general and another officer near the Afghan border, just days after government officials promised to launch peace negotiations with the Pakistani Taliban soon. “This incident has dealt a serious blow (to the peace process),” Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar told parliament this week. “We have come to a standstill.”

The tension comes at a crucial time when speculation is mounting over who will replace the army chief, General Ashfaq Kayani, arguably the country’s most powerful man, who is due to retire in November. The army put out a toughly worded statement this week. “While reaffirming the army’s support for the political process, (Kayani) also said, unequivocally, that terrorists will not be allowed to take advantage of it,” it said. “The army has the ability and the will to take the fight to the terrorists.”

The United States is pushing Islamabad to step up its campaign against groups such as the Haqqani network which regularly attacks US forces in Afghanistan from hideouts in Pakistani mountains. “The absence of a strong government narrative on how to counter terrorism is quite disturbing for everyone, including the army chief,” said a senior Western diplomat in Islamabad. The Pakistani Taliban are a fragmented alliance of factions with no coherent voice. Some within the group have announced preconditions, while others have denied this. The government would not say who would talk to whom, where and when.

“Until they (government) say out loud who the enemy is, there can be no policy and there can be no results,” said the senior military officer. The army says it would not agree to any preconditions, particularly the withdrawal of troops from tribal areas. “They are saying: ‘Get out of here and let us be kings’,” another army source also serving in the tribal belt said of the Pakistani Taliban. “That’s not an option.” reuters

This is welcome news. Army's patience is running thing, which is a most unfortunate tale when you observe why.

But, as far as peace talks are concerned, appeasement of these terrorists. It wasn't a good idea to begin with, nor will this bad idea ever formulate into any tangible results. The political parties and army are all divided over appeasement or not. Similarly, the TTP aren't some unitary force, too many yahoos, each with their own cause. I don't see it getting anywhere.

It's all a big waste of time. The real end game will come about when the army decides and pressures these political parties to back them.

 

[batmannow]

No, they need to be handed over to Jirgas all over KPK for punishment under the Pashtun 'PashtunWali'. Let the people who have lost their loved ones and jiggar kay tukray to punish these bearded monsters for they have killed too many of our fine, men, women, children and destroyed an ancient way of life!

how many more tribal elders, head of jirga,s you want to see blasted away? by TTp mujahids?
gor. TTp, jirga is the most hated thing, thier islam dont agree,s jirgas & our jirga,s arent stronger then, our vourts & prisons, which kept blasting till now?