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Pakistani Ballistic Missile Test Failed

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Pakistani Ballistic Missile Test Failed | Missile ThreatMissile Threat
Posted on December 3, 2012 by editor


ISLAMABAD — Despite the official announcement that the Nov. 28 test of the Ghauri/Hatf V (Vengeance V) ballistic missile was successful, reports in the local media indicate the missile in fact disintegrated.

The reports were accompanied by images of the missile debris that fell in and around villages in the district of Dadu in the southern province of Sind. They were reportedly quickly secured by the police and then removed by the military.

One piece of the debris was clearly marked “‘Flight Control Computer.’’ Other images show a mass of wires among tubular metal pieces.

The military’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) media branch admitted the debris were part of the Ghauri, but reiterated its earlier claim that the test was a “complete success.”

“The missile during its flight remained within the designated flight path and corridor. The metal parts found in a remote area of Dadu, as reported in media today, were part of the motor body, which separated from the missile as planned, well within the safety corridor,” it stated.

Though the incident caused some distress, but not any casualties or damage to property, the ISPR statement concluded, “It was ensured that at no point, would human life or property be at risk. There is no cause for alarm or concern.”

The missile may have originated from the Tilla missile test-firing range near the Punjabi city of Jhelum. Its trajectory seems to indicate it was heading for impact in Balochistan province, (possibly the Sonmiani firing range), or the Arabian Sea.

Analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank does not accept the military’s version of events.

“It seems there was some kind of failure here,” he said.

“I’m not sure if the Ghauri has a separating warhead, but it is possible. However, the missile body clearly disintegrated and fell over a wide area. The missile was a single-stage weapon. This is unusual. The body should have stayed intact even if the warhead did separate,” he added.

He does not see any reason why disintegration would be planned.

“There’s no advantage to the missile body breaking up unless it was over the target to confuse an ABM defense radar. Also, I don’t think the Army would choose to have pieces of missile fall out of the sky over a populated area, even if not many people were living there.”

“This has never reported to have happened in any previous missile test”, he said.

If this is indeed a failure, Khan says it would mark the third known incident of this kind involving the Ghauri since it was purchased from North Korea by disgraced metallurgist and former administrative head of the then-Khan Research Laboratories, Abdul Qadir Khan.

The first test in 1998 led to the missile breaking up, and in a later test the Ghauri is known to have fallen in Iranian territory, leading to a diplomatic protest from Tehran.

Khan says because the design was outdated when purchased, the considerable modernization work done by the National Engineering and Scientific Commission and the National Defence Complex may not have been wholly effective.

Ultimately, he says the Ghauri missile system needs to be retired.



Prithvi-II not all that successful

New Indian Express
Prithvi-II not all that successful | Missile ThreatMissile Threat
Posted on December 21, 2012 by editor




The outcome of user trial of nuclear-capable ballistic missile Prithvi-II on Thursday may not be very encouraging for the DRDO and the Army.

Mounted on a Mobile Tatra Transporter-erector Launcher (MTL), the sophisticated missile was fired from the launching complex – III (LC-III) of the Integrated Test Range (ITR) at Chandipur off the Odisha coast at about 9.20 am.

With all logistic supports from the DRDO, the Strategic Forces Command (SFC) of the Indian Army test launched the missile in salvo mode to evaluate its consistency and readiness. It was the third test of the missile this year and two tests on August 25 and October 4 were complete success.

Even as the defence officials claimed that the test was successful, sources at the test range informed this paper that the mission was not a 100 per cent success.

“Though the target was set for the missile to cover its full operational range of 350 km, the missile managed to cover only 278 km. It failed to attain the desired height and had a deviation in its trajectory. The vehicle too did not adhere to the preordained flight path,” the source claimed.

Significantly, the mission was completely executed by the SFC, user of the missile. The test was to reconfirm the technical parameters set for the user associated launch and check the Army’s readiness to use it. The entire trajectory of the missile was tracked by a battery of sophisticated radars, telemetry observation stations, electro-optic instruments and naval ships.

A defence release stated that the Prithvi-II missile was equipped with advanced high accuracy navigation system and guided by an innovative guidance scheme. “The improved Circular Error Probability (CEP) achieved is a testimony to the efficacy of this missile system,” it said.

Quoting an SFC spokesperson, the release said, “The flight conveys our preparedness to meet any eventuality. The mission has fully validated our operational readiness. With this launch, the SFC has successfully carried out launches of all the variants of Prithvi and Agni missiles in operational conditions.”

So far, Prithvi class of missiles has been test launched at least 57 times from this test range and in the last three years it has failed to give desired results four times. The twin-engine, liquid fuelled, 8.56-metre tall missile with a strike range of 350 km has the capability to carry nearly one tonne warhead.

In its line up to build a minimum credible nuclear deterrence while the DRDO claimed to have achieved many milestones, recurring failures of Prithvi-II missile, touted as a proven weapon of the country, have left defence experts worried, who too have questioned the reliability over P-II during the deployment stage.
 
This was discused to death a month ago! Aero you should close this thread once.
 
Nothing....:what:

must be something

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@AhaseebA Please do the exercise again :D

Hadd hai :rolleyes: :P

As explained before, there are only 2 possibilities for the Pakistani missile test incident:

1. Either the missile veered a bit off the path (just a bit, because the impact of the normally detached correction system was close to the trajectory's projection). It is the impact in the wrong area that is the problem, not the "disintegration" of the missile.

2. Or the test was a success, and the villages in path of trajectory were mistakenly overlooked, due to a possible new trajectory plan (which is the least likely reason).

P.S. Merge the thread with the previous one.
 
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If Prithvi-II failed then i'm very happy with it, it's time to scrap all liquid fueled missiles with Solid fueled ones.
 
Hadd hai :rolleyes: :P

As explained before, there are only 2 possibilities for the Pakistani missile test incident:

1. Either the missile veered a bit off the path (just a bit, because the impact of the normally detached correction system was close to the trajectory's projection). It is the impact in the wrong area that is the problem, not the "disintegration" of the missile. .

From where are you calculating the path? What is the launch point and destination?

What if I told you that the launch was from a certain place in Eastern Baluchistan and destined for the sea?
 
From where are you calculating the path? What is the launch point and destination?

What if I told you that the launch was from a certain place in Eastern Baluchistan and destined for the sea?
don't reveal that kind of stuff or i will have to kill you
 
don't reveal that kind of stuff or i will have to kill you
Please stop bumping old threads it is against forum rules.
regards
Its that thinking and the always on stealth mode that deprives the nation on information on projects ran with their tax money . Not a good thing , by any means .
I think there should be harmonious balance between Right of information And Preserving the secrecy of national defence projects
 
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