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Theology doesn't work here.. They are allied with ISIS, afghan gov't and RAW because their interests converge whereas IEA interests runs counter to them

So what are the interests of this so-called Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan ? What is the Afghan Taliban's view on women, progressive economics, progressive social system and such like ? Different to the TTP ?

Again, both will remain Deobandi extremist cranks.


So you are refusing to believe that TTP leaders and fighters were released from the Pul-e-Charkhi jail ?
 
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So what are the interests of this so-called Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan ? What is the Afghan Taliban's view on women, progressive economics, progressive social system and such like ? Different to the TTP ?

Again, both will remain Deobandi extremist cranks.



So you are refusing to believe that TTP leaders and fighters were released from the Pul-e-Charkhi jail ?

Don't be naive theology itself doesn't make two ppl share same interests.. The world is not black and white because it is alot more complicated than you think..

TTP wants to take over parts of Pakistan and IEA doesn't share that opinion or policies it has ties in PK.. TTP is with ISIS a group outlawed by IEA.. TTP share same interests with NDS and RAW doesn't mean they like each other but their interests converge with each other which is attacking pak Interests whereas IEA converge interests with regional players
 
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1. The interview is from one month ago and its information and narrative is outdated.

2. I was frankly disgusted by Gen. Tariq's blatant support for the Afghan Taliban.

3. About the difference between AT and TTP the general was being evasive and he should have been asked what I asked you :

Wtf are you on about? The interview whether it be 1 month old or 10 years old, gives clarity about the differences between Afghan Taliban and TTP. It DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE DISGUSTED OR WHATEVER, that's the bottom line and that's the truth. Don't like it, then keep on believing in delusions and propaganda by you Indian and Western media.

That is not the answer to my question.

That is exactly the answer to your question, just rewind and keep on listening to what the general said from 5:20 to 7:00, until you it through your thick head. It doesn't matter what TTP wants people to think about themselves. The truth is different from what they portray, if they really wanted what you are projecting them to be, they would have then similar support like TLP, but they don't. Did you know how many votes TLP won in the last election google it? Now compare them to TTP. People are disgusted by TTP, they would butcher them in public if they ever found 1 TTP operator in public, UNLIKE AFGHAN TALIBAN which conquered WHOLE OF AFGHANISTAN without firing a single bullet.

I repeat, the Taliban was a co-creation of a foreign government ( the American ). As for fight, the Western militaries in Afghanistan were fighting with half-heart. Things like Taliban handing over forcibly-grown opium to CIA. If the Western militaries really wanted to destroy the Taliban they do have done a massive invasion like in Iraq, Libya and Syria.

Go read history, opium production was at its low when Taliban were in government. Sure, they had to fund their war somehow, but when they were in gov it was at its historical low.

And now the American government has already spoken of accepting the Taliban government. The regressive and oppressive Taliban will remain the puppet of the Crusader Western governments who never would want Muslims to have progressive governance and develop themselves politically, socially, economically and technologically.
Yeah, the Taliban are puppets of Americans, while the Kabuli corrupt government forced by the west was the righteous one. What kind of go-mutra have you been consuming? Like there is a limit to delusion. The Taliban fought Americans for 20 years, killing them, it was only until the agreement that they stopped their onslaught against the forces.

Yeah, they resonated and that is why they are seeking refuge in Iran, Turkey and Pakistan.

Just this morning I saw on TV crowds of men, maybe at Kabul airport, climbing the ladder of a plane like ants in desperate bid to escape the inevitable, wonderous "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan.

Do you even know how big is the population of Afghanistan? It is in millions, a few hundred western puppets or fags or LGBTQ libtards, if they are running away from Afghanistan, doesn't mean the Taliban doesn't have the support of the majority of the population. Btw, unlike last time this time, we expect fewer refugees as far as Pakistan is concerned. And yes we shouldn't give the western and Indian puppets and refuge, they will only cause trouble in Pakistan. But those who are from backward areas and from minority communities, and are only running because of the fear projected by the media should be given assurances and put in an interim zone, until they get confidence back that the Taliban aren't as bad as the media projects them to be.

Yeah, they resonated and that is why they are seeking refuge in Iran, Turkey and Pakistan.

Just this morning I saw on TV crowds of men, maybe at Kabul airport, climbing the ladder of a plane like ants in desperate bid to escape the inevitable, wonderous "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan.

Watch a couple of Saigon videos, you will see crowds of South Vietnamese running just like this, climbing ladders and whatnot. Look at Vietnam today. US forced corrupt northern alliance on people of Afghanistan when the majority of Afghanistan hate them and don't support them.
Get this through your thick skull:

MAJORITY
MAJORITY
MAJORITY
MAJORITY
 
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I suspect one of the major powers, example China, will recognise Taliban first and then Pakistan will immediately follow suit. I think all this is already planned. End of the day, Taliban are controlled by Pakistan so obviously they will recognised them.

Partially correct, China and Russia will recognize new afghan government. Paksitan doesn't controll Taliban but does have some leverage due to top taliban leadeship have families living in Pakistan or you can say that we have good working relationship with them since we are involve in the Afghan peace process.
 
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It DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE DISGUSTED OR WHATEVER

Leave alone me let Gen. Tariq speak to Pakistani and Afghani progressives about his adoration for the Taliban.

Watch a couple of Saigon videos, you will see crowds of South Vietnamese running just like this, climbing ladders and whatnot. Look at Vietnam today.

Come on man, you are trying to equate two opposite things. Saigon was taken over by the Communists who were ideologically opposed to the Americans and were attacked by the Americans. Kabul has been taken over by the Taliban who are anti-Communists co-created by the Americans.

The "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan existed before between 1996 and 2001. The misery of Afghans did not end between those years but increased. And so it will do in this new IEA.

US forced corrupt northern alliance on people of Afghanistan when the majority of Afghanistan hate them and don't support them.

1. I believe many in the Northern Alliance, like Ahmed Shah Masood and Abdul Rasul Sayyaf, were former anti-progressive so-called Mujahideen so they were not much different to the Taliban anyway. And the NA was also composed of opportunists like Abdul Rashid Dostum who had betrayed the prior socialist government of President Najibullah in the 1990s. So yes, the NA was corrupt ideologically and morally.

2. Unfortunately in societies like Afghanistan, India and Pakistan a lot of the populace are fools who don't know what is good for them. They may not be immediately active part of the wrong movements but they will also not actively protest and organize against them. They will live in misery and not protest. It is always left to the progressives to organize, protest, propagandize and act.

Get this through your thick skull:

MAJORITY
MAJORITY
MAJORITY
MAJORITY


Because China and Russia are about to recognize them.

So ?
 
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Come on man, you are trying to equate two opposite things. Saigon was taken over by the Communists who were ideologically opposed to the Americans and were attacked by the Americans. Kabul has been taken over by the Taliban who are anti-Communists co-created by the Americans.

The "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan existed before between 1996 and 2001. The misery of Afghans did not end between those years but increased. And so it will do in this new IEA.

Let me make it so that even a 6-year-old could understand.

US invading force in Afghanistan == US invading force in Vietnam
Taliban opposing the invading forces == North Veitnamese opposing the invading forces
Kabuli Northern alliance puppets forced by US to rule in Afghanistan == South Vietnamese forced on people and the majority of Vietnam.

I can not make it simpler, even a retard can see the parallels. It doesn't matter if the Vietnamese were christian, communists, atheists, buddhists, and neither does it matter if the Taliban are atheists, Buddhist Muslims or whatever.

THE BASIC PILLAR OF IDEOLOGY IS TO FIGHT THE INTRUDER, BE IT RUSSIANS, INDIANS, CHINKS, AMERICANS, TURKS WHATEVER.

Americans helped Talibans against USSR invasion, it was appreciated BECAUSE THEY DIDNT FKIN INVADE AFGHANISTAN, USSR WAS INVADING BACK THEN. Fast forward to 2001 it was AMERICANS WHO WERE INVADING.

LIKE THERE IS SIMPLE CLEAR CONSISTENCY WHICH IS SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND. I am using caps, it is so frustrating that a clear concept like this is such an alien concept for you.

Now, I am not saying there isn't any difference between Afghanistan and Vietnam, I am only commenting in the context of war. In everything else Afghanistan is totally different from Vietnam, its a landlocked country, with a mountainous region, under extreme poverty, parts of which were ruled by different warlords, till the Taliban government, which unified them under one government. Sure it was brutal and I hope/pray that Taliban have learned from the past which is somewhat shown by the recent negotiation process and the peaceful takeover of Afghanistan. I am full of hope for a better, proud and progressing future of Afghanistan.


Showing me like I haven't seen it, the guy at 0:06 looks pretty joyful, these are the dumb opportunist retards, who in hopes of getting asylum are jumping on planes like made dogs, only hell awaits them. While the sane are sitting at homes, chilling and waiting for a peaceful transfer of power.

2. Unfortunately in societies like Afghanistan, India and Pakistan a lot of the populace are fools who don't know what is good for them. They may not be immediately active part of the wrong movements but they will also not actively protest and organize. They will live in misery and not protest.

Well then start with your home instead of complaining about Afghanistan. If India is changed for good, the whole region will change automatically for the good. We spend so much on the military because we have to bring some sort of equalization to the region because of your misadventures. Pakistan wouldn't have ever acquired nukes if it wasn't for India getting them first. You buy Rafael, the latest fighters, airship carriers, we have to balance all that shit. So it's a reaction to your military advancement.
 
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Yes it's a race

Why ?

Let me make it so that even a 6-year-old could understand.

US invading force in Afghanistan == US invading force in Vietnam
Taliban opposing the invading forces == North Veitnamese opposing the invading forces
Kabuli Northern alliance puppets forced by US to rule in Afghanistan == South Vietnamese forced on people and the majority of Vietnam.

Your sarcasm doesn't take into account the intricacies that I have explained in previous posts.

Americans helped Talibans against USSR invasion, it was appreciated BECAUSE THEY DIDNT FKIN INVADE AFGHANISTAN, USSR WAS INVADING BACK THEN.

The USSR did not invade Afghanistan but came to the aid of a brotherly country to help it get rid of local and foreign regressive criminals who rampaged through the country with the financial, training, political and logistical aid mainly of USA, China, Saudia and Gen Zia's Pakistan.

Fast forward to 2001 it was AMERICANS WHO WERE INVADING.

The Americans invaded in search of Al Qaeda and not Taliban. The "Islamic" Emirate of Afghanistan aka Taliban government ran from 1996 to 2001 under happy recognition by the Americans and the rest of the West.

LIKE THERE IS SIMPLE CLEAR CONSISTENCY WHICH IS SO HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND. I am using caps, it is so frustrating that a clear concept like this is such an alien concept for you.

Imagine my frustration since yesterday when I have had to explain the logical and factual reality to unfortunately many Pakistani members of PDF and one Chinese member who have been left deliriously happy by the Taliban takeover of Kabul and are posting nonsense.

Well then start with your home instead of complaining about Afghanistan. If India is changed for good, the whole region will change automatically for the good. We spend so much on the military because we have to bring some sort of equalization to the region because of your misadventures. Pakistan wouldn't have ever acquired nukes if it wasn't for India getting them first. You buy Rafael, the latest fighters, airship carriers, we have to balance all that shit. So it's a reaction to your military advancement.

Either India becomes the magnanimous older brother and helps bring peace to the Subcontinent, or Pakistan can be the calm, wise person who helps do that.

But I have presented a solution in the below thread of mine. You should read it and spread it :


Showing me like I haven't seen it, the guy at 0:06 looks pretty joyful, these are the dumb opportunist retards, who in hopes of getting asylum are jumping on planes like made dogs, only hell awaits them.

Real hell awaits those who now live in Afghanistan. I will tag you in a thread I will create soon.

While the sane are sitting at homes, chilling and waiting for a peaceful transfer of power.

Good joke. Those sane will be now become miserable.
 
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