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RAPTOR said:
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Ethanol is nontoxic, renewable and biodegradable, and can be made from almost any agricultural feedstock from which starch is derived, such as sugarcane, sorghum, wheat, cheese byproducts and wood waste, municipal solid waste, animal manure and sewage sludge.
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Mmm....i bet this lab doesn't have any Farmers (who also get large subsidies in the U.S) sponsoring them?

End the Subsidies for Ethanol and lets see how far it progresses under the scrutiny of Markets rather than some Bio-Chemist Phd guy conducting arcane experiments in woop woop.
 
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This is older news, but i believe the new Nuclear Plants by China are goin to be similar to this one.


Pakistan builds new nuclear plant


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China is to help Pakistan build a new nuclear power plant in the north of the country, the two sides have announced.
The power plant, to be built at Chashma south of Islamabad by 2010, will be for peaceful purposes, a statement said.
It is the second nuclear plant that China has helped Pakistan construct, and comes after a Pakistani scientist confessed to leaking nuclear secrets.
To allay fears, Islamabad is stressing the new plant will follow International Atomic Energy Agency safeguards.
Observers say Tuesday's deal underlines economic ties between the long-time allies, a day after a car bombing killed three Chinese workers in Pakistan's south-west.
Representatives from the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission and the China National Nuclear Corporation signed the contract, estimated to be worth $600m (£450m).

Western reservations
The new 300-megawatt power station will be located next to a plant the Chinese helped to build in the 1990s, also at Chashma, on the banks of the River Indus. "It is worth mentioning that Pakistan's nuclear power plants are under the safeguards of the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency], which is... responsible for monitoring and safeguarding of nuclear power plants," a statement issued by both parties said.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3683621.stm
 
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RAPTOR said:
This is older news, but i believe the new Nuclear Plants by China are goin to be similar to this one.


Pakistan builds new nuclear plant

hey Raptor maybe you have misunderstood me, I am not against Pakistan making Nuclear power plants because it can be used to power electricity and also if hostilities increase the fuel can be quickly diverted to other useful uses.
 
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Pak-China harnessing nuclear technology for peaceful purposes: PM Aziz



Tuesday May 23, 2006




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Pak-China harnessing nuclear technology for peaceful purposes: PM Aziz
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ISLAMABAD: PM Shaukat Aziz emphasizing the deep rooted friendship with China said that we are undertaking up-gradation of the Karakorum Highway to convert it into an all weather corridor to facilitate bilateral trade and a significant area of cooperation between Pakistan and China has been the harnessing of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes under international safeguards for the production of electricity.


He was addressing at the seminar at the seminar commemorating 55 years of Pakistan-China relations at the Institute of Strategic Studies Islamabad on Tuesday.
Prime Minister said the friendship between our two countries is rooted in our hearts and minds. Ours is a special relationship, which is wholeheartedly and overwhelmingly supported by our peoples. These ties are also unshakeable, as they are not based on transient interests or temporary objectives. It is a long-term partnership for peace, stability and prosperity at the bilateral, regional and international levels. These relations have withstood the test of time and the far-reaching changes that have taken place in our regional and global environment.
"Our ties are, therefore, a model for relations between any two countries. Over the past 55 years our all-weather and time-tested friendship has become higher than the highest mountains and deeper than the deepest oceans. There exists complete trust and confidence between us as we have shaped our relationship on the eternal principles of peaceful co-existence and mutually beneficial cooperation", PM said.
Pakistan and China have always pursued their friendship with the objective of mutual benefit and never at the cost of any other country. We have not sought hegemony nor shall we accept hegemony from any quarter. Our relationship is designed to promote security and cooperation with our neighbours as well as with our global partners, he said.

"China is today a great world power. Its influential role is a factor for global peace and stability. Its economy dominates the global economic system. There exists great respect and admiration in the world for the giant strides that have been made by China since it succeeded in overthrowing the yoke of imperialism. Therefore, on this occasion I would like to congratulate the leadership, the government and the people of China on their tremendous political, military, economic and technological achievements. It would not be an overstatement to say that these accomplishments of our Chinese friends have indeed changed the course of history", PM said.
"We, in Pakistan, have also laboured hard over the last six years to reposition and revitalize Pakistan through broad-based and multi-dimensional structural reforms. These reforms in the political, economic and social sectors, ensuring transparency, accountability and consistency, have put Pakistan on an upward growth trajectory. As a result, our economic growth last year, at 8.4%, was second only to that of China. We are confident that this positive trend shall continue" , he said.

A revitalized Pakistan has also emerged as an anchor for peace and stability in the region. Pakistan is now in a position to leverage its strategic location at the crossroads of South Asia, Central Asia and West Asia to promote multi-dimensional corridors of cooperation including oil and gas pipelines, electricity grids, transportation networks and trade relations. Our ports at Karachi and Gawadar can serve as the shortest access to the sea for Central Asia as well as Western China, he said.
In the political realm, Pakistan and China are committed to pursuing relations between each other and with other countries on the basis of the principles of peaceful co-existence, sovereign equality and non-interference. We seek mutually beneficial cooperation with all countries and are committed to the peaceful settlement of all disputes and conflicts. Our relations are not designed to be used against any third country. We also do not subscribe to concepts such as balance of power, pre-emption and unilateralism. We believe in strengthening the United Nations system to address and resolve all regional and global issues., he said
Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz said our two countries seek a level playing field without trade barriers and tariff walls. Bilaterally there exists great potential for further economic cooperation, far above and beyond the levels reached so far. With China`s growing economic power, it is fast becoming an exporter of capital and Pakistan would welcome greater levels of Chinese investment in our economy, especially in sectors such as infrastructure, telecommunications, energy, IT, construction, mining, textiles and many others.
" We welcome the recent agreement with China to establish industrial and hi-tech zones in Pakistan. We are working towards creating economic and energy zones as well. Soon we will be concluding a Free Trade Agreement between the two countries, having already put in place an early harvest trade arrangement. These efforts to promote Chinese investments as well as bilateral trade will give a tremendous boost to our bilateral cooperation.
We will soon be undertaking up-gradation of the Karakorum Highway to convert it into an all weather corridor to facilitate bilateral trade. Furthermore, we are exploring the feasibility of constructing an oil pipeline from the port of Gawadar, constructed with Chinese assistance, up to Western China which will considerably shorten the distance and time for oil transportation from the Gulf to China. Setting up of a mega-refinery at Gawadar would further facilitate China`s oil imports from our region", he said.
A significant area of cooperation between Pakistan and China has been the harnessing of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes under international safeguards - for the production of electricity. The Chashma-I and II power plants are a symbol of such cooperation. We are working towards further expansion of cooperation in this area. In our view, the peaceful uses of nuclear technology under appropriate safeguards is the right of every country and there should be a level playing field in this regard.
Pakistan-China defence cooperation has always remained a factor for stability in the region. The framework agreement on defence cooperation between the two countries signed in February this year is designed to carry forward our traditional cooperation in this area and shall contribute towards the modernization of our armed forces. Specific joint production projects such as the JF-17 fighter aircraft, the Al-Khalid and Zarar tanks are all examples of the tangible output of our defence relations with China. A lesser-known but equally important aspect of this cooperation is in the important field of Research and Development which will lay the groundwork for future cooperation in this field, he said.

Prime Minister said as we commemorate the 55 years of Pakistan-China relations, it is necessary to re-dedicate ourselves to a future partnership even stronger than in the past.
We also need to redouble our efforts for the protection and promotion of international peace and security in a multi-polar international system confronted with serious challenges such as terrorism, nuclear proliferation, regional conflicts, the energy crisis, environmental degradation among others, the PM concluded.

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=144538
 
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A rare day for Pakistan at Capitol Hill


By Anwar Iqbal
WASHINGTON, June 22: It was a rare day for Pakistan on Capitol Hill, with one US legislator after another hailing the country as a ‘champion ally’ and some even urging the Bush administration to offer Islamabad a similar nuclear deal that it offered to India.

“Pakistan has always been an ally … and good to the US. I can’t say the US has always been good to Pakistan,” said Congressman Ted Poe, a Texas Republican.

On Thursday, Pakistani American Congress, a non-partisan and non-profit group, brought together dozens of Pakistani physicians, teachers, computer engineers, lawyers, congressional aides and other prominent citizens to lobby for Pakistan on the Hill. In the evening more than a dozen US lawmakers spoke at the concluding session of PAC’s 14th annual conference.

At least two legislators, Congressman Bill Pascrell and Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, also underscored the need to support democratic reforms in Pakistan. “There are no good dictators or bad dictators. The US government should not support any dictator at all,” said Rep. Pascrell.

Congressman Major R. Owens, a Brooklyn Democrat, spoke on the Indo-US nuclear deal. “I don’t understand if we can offer a nuclear deal to India, why can’t we offer a similar deal to Pakistan as well,” he said. “Pakistan is one of our favourite nations.”

Rep. Pascrell, a ranking Democrat at the Homeland Security Subcommittee on Emergency Preparedness, questioned the dichotomy of the Bush administration’s approach to the nuclear issue. “You either support non-proliferation or you do not,” he said. He said he did not understand the administration’s decision to deny a deal to Pakistan that it offered to India.

Congressman Dale E. Kildee, a Michigan Democrat and a graduate of the Islamia College, Peshawar, said that living in Pakistan as a young man, he “learned what real Islam is: surrendering to God’s will in a way … which brings peace and stability to your life.”

Congressman Nick Rahall, a West Virginia Democrat, said the US and Pakistan shared common goals that go beyond the war on terror and he saw “no reason why this relationship should diminish once the war is over.”

Congressman Danny K. Davis, a Chicago Democrat, said the Pakistani community in the US was growing both in number and influence and would soon be in a position to influence the process of decision making in this country.

Congressman John T. Salazar, a Colorado Democrat, also emphasised this point saying that his communications director, Nayyra Haq, was a Pakistani.

http://www.dawn.com/2006/06/23/top9.htm
 
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Pak to offer incentives to foreign firms in nuke field

Pakistan has decided to set up 'designated nuclear power parks' as an additional incentive to attract foreign investors to build and run atomic power plants in the country.

Pakistan's growing energy requirements would be partly met by nuclear power for which it was imperative to provide enhanced facilities and tax concessions to the foreign investors interested in setting up private nuclear power plants, Dawn daily on Sunday quoted an official as saying.

The official pointed out that the setting up of nuclear power plants by foreign investors under the safeguards of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) would address "proliferation concerns" of the US and western countries.
Pakistan's Private Power and Infrastructure Board (PPIB) was being asked to work out fiscal and non-fiscal incentives to attract foreign investment, the official said.

The plans follow an earlier decision by Pakistan to permit foreign companies to build and operate atomic power plants, which was taken after Bush Administration refused to have an agreement with Islamabad on the lines of the Indo-US civilian nuclear deal.

Angry over the US refusal, Pakistan also approached China to build six atomic power plants in addition to the two Beijing has already committed for. Recent reports said Beijing has agreed to build six more 300 mw power plants.
Pakistan however wanted French, US and Japanese companies to invest in its nuclear power sector as they have the capacity to build giant 1000 mw nuclear power plants unlike China, which has the capacity to build more 350 mw plants, according to reports.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1773113,000500020000.htm
 
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Pak to offer incentives to foreign firms in nuke field

Pakistan has decided to set up 'designated nuclear power parks' as an additional incentive to attract foreign investors to build and run atomic power plants in the country.

Pakistan's growing energy requirements would be partly met by nuclear power for which it was imperative to provide enhanced facilities and tax concessions to the foreign investors interested in setting up private nuclear power plants, Dawn daily on Sunday quoted an official as saying.

The official pointed out that the setting up of nuclear power plants by foreign investors under the safeguards of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) would address "proliferation concerns" of the US and western countries.
Pakistan's Private Power and Infrastructure Board (PPIB) was being asked to work out fiscal and non-fiscal incentives to attract foreign investment, the official said.

The plans follow an earlier decision by Pakistan to permit foreign companies to build and operate atomic power plants, which was taken after Bush Administration refused to have an agreement with Islamabad on the lines of the Indo-US civilian nuclear deal.

Angry over the US refusal, Pakistan also approached China to build six atomic power plants in addition to the two Beijing has already committed for. Recent reports said Beijing has agreed to build six more 300 mw power plants.
Pakistan however wanted French, US and Japanese companies to invest in its nuclear power sector as they have the capacity to build giant 1000 mw nuclear power plants unlike China, which has the capacity to build more 350 mw plants, according to reports.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1773113,000500020000.htm[/quote]


They also asked the French Nuclear Giant AREVA to build three 1000 Megawatt nuclear power plants near Karachi to provide some relief from the severe power shortages faced by Karachi.Such Nuclear cooperation will of course be under IAEA safeguards.
 
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They also asked the French Nuclear Giant AREVA to build three 1000 Megawatt nuclear power plants near Karachi to provide some relief from the severe power shortages faced by Karachi.Such Nuclear cooperation will of course be under IAEA safeguards.

Thats great news Raptor, can you please post links?
Thanks!
 
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Thats great news Raptor, can you please post links?
Thanks!


Its not confirmed yet, but thats what they are "planning to do" at the moment...Japan and France have been selected but the French of course are the leaders in Nuclear Reactor Technology as well as historical links with Pakistan's Nuclear establishment so lets see what develops in the next few months..
 
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Its not confirmed yet, but thats what they are "planning to do" at the moment...Japan and France have been selected but the French of course are the leaders in Nuclear Reactor Technology as well as historical links with Pakistan's Nuclear establishment so lets see what develops in the next few months..
Write off Japan, never gonna happen.
I'll bet my money on France. The NSG still has to approve the controvercial Indo-US nuclear deal.
If approved France and China are most preferable countries to be appointed for building reactors. Even Russia is a good candidate.
 
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Write off Japan, never gonna happen.
I'll bet my money on France. The NSG still has to approve the controvercial Indo-US nuclear deal.
If approved France and China are most preferable countries to be appointed for building reactors. Even Russia is a good candidate.
ever heard of the news about russian nuclear reactor [SIZE=-1]Chernobyl[/SIZE]?
 
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Write off Japan, never gonna happen.
I'll bet my money on France. The NSG still has to approve the controvercial Indo-US nuclear deal.
If approved France and China are most preferable countries to be appointed for building reactors. Even Russia is a good candidate.


Yup, France's Areva and China are the prefered canditates. I'd count out Japan with its psuedo pacifist crap . Even Germany (Seimens) might be willing to acomodate Pakistan as it is already heavily involved in China as well as being the biggest source of Nuclear materials for Pakistan's Nuclear program during the 70's and 80's.

As far as russia is concerned...lol...because of a certain country.....it will not entertain any Pakistani requests for Nuclear Reactors. It is still completing the huge Tsunami hit reactors at a location on the bay of bengal and is now marketing "floating Nuclear Power Stations" to some countries. The idea behind it being that since its on international waters under Russian control, it cannot come under IAEA safeguards. One can only hope that they wont be an ecological disaster on the scale of a hundred Chernobyls in the event an Earthquake or another Tsunami hits.
 
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Pakistan wants nuclear bargain


GRAEME SMITH
From Friday's Globe and Mail


KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN — Pakistan is expected to push Gordon O'Connor for help with obtaining Canadian nuclear power technology today, as the Defence Minister visits Islamabad for talks about the rising Taliban insurgency in southern Afghanistan.

Mr. O'Connor flew into Islamabad last night and enjoyed a late dinner at the upscale Serena Hotel with retired lieutenant-general Tariq Waseem Ghazi, Pakistan's Secretary of Defence.

The first evening of the three-day visit was spent talking about Afghanistan and regional security, according to a Pakistani source, but the Canadian delegation is likely to hear demands for nuclear assistance during today's scheduled meetings with Pakistani defence and intelligence officials.
Analysts say nuclear technology could be a key bargaining chip in Canada's increasingly urgent diplomatic efforts to win Islamabad's support for the war against the Taliban.

Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency has deep historical links with the Taliban movement, and some experts accuse the ISI of quietly fomenting the insurgency.
"Canada needs to build pressure on Pakistan to co-operate against the Taliban, and nuclear technology is one thing that Pakistan wants," said Hasan-Askari Rizvi, a political analyst in Lahore.

Canada was among the first countries to help Pakistan develop nuclear technology, when Atomic Energy of Canada supplied a Candu reactor for the Karachi Nuclear Power Plant, which opened in 1972.

Ottawa cut nuclear assistance to Islamabad just four years later, however, over concerns about failures to accept nonproliferation safeguards. The fears proved justified, as Pakistan became embroiled in a nuclear arms race with India.

Investigators also suspect the former head of Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, Abdul Qadeer Khan, of trading nuclear secrets with North Korea.

Embargoes have left Pakistan's civilian nuclear program in poor condition, with only two working nuclear plants and a record of low efficiency.

Despite using Chinese assistance in the continuing construction of a third nuclear power plant, Dr. Rizvi said Pakistan would prefer the technology of Western nuclear scientists.

Perhaps more important, Dr. Rizvi added, is Pakistan's desire to keep up with India. When U.S. President George W. Bush made a trip through New Delhi and Islamabad in February, he signed a civil nuclear co-operation deal in India with great fanfare. But he passed quickly through Pakistan without even the promise of similar treatment for his ally on counterterrorism.

The following month, nuclear issues were the only questions raised by Pakistani reporters when Prime Minister Stephen Harper visited Islamabad.

Mr. O'Connor's visit is a more low-profile affair than the Prime Minister's. The Defence Minister's schedule, passed to local reporters in Islamabad by the Pakistani government, lists appointments with Ashfaq Kiani, director-general of the ISI; Rao Sikander Iqbal, senior federal minister for defence; Habibullah Warraich, Minister for Defence Production; and General Ehsan ul-Haq, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. He will also do a little sightseeing.

Speaking to reporters at Kandahar airfield before he left Afghanistan yesterday, Mr. O'Connor expressed regret that his schedule doesn't include meetings with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf or Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz.

"The President's out of the country, and so is the Prime Minister," Mr. O'Connor said. "But you can't get everybody."

In fact, General Musharraf is widely believed to be in Pakistan until his upcoming visit to Afghanistan, which begins Sunday or Monday. It's not the first time that the Canadians have struggled to get the attention of Pakistan's leader -- about a month ago, Canadian diplomats tried and failed to arrange a meeting between Gen. Musharraf and Canadian defence attaché Lieutenant-Colonel Romas Blekaitis.

With a report from Brian Laghi in Ottawa

Nuclear nation

Chashma: Chinese supplied reactor has been operating since 2000 and another is being built.

Khushab: Built with Chinese help, the reactor began operating in 1998 to produce plutonium and tritium for nuclear weapons.

Karachi: The Canadian-supplied CANDU reactor went into operation in 1972 but has barely worked since 2002 and is in need of upgrades to extend its lifespan beyond its intended 30 years.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...ront/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20060901.wxpakistan01
 
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