Pakistan To Build 12 New Nuclear Plants

[Kaiser]

Pakistan to build 12 new nuclear power plants, says official

Islamabad, June 11, SPA - Pakistan's Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) Chairman Pervez Butt says ten to twelve new nuclear power plants will be built in the next few years to meet energy requirements of Pakistan.
"In the present day competitive era, each nation has to carve out its own destiny from available resources and the PAEC has followed this self-reliance path to evolve successes in the domain of national security, agriculture, cancer treatment, nuclear energy and industrial support services," Butt said while addressing the prize distribution ceremony of National Engineering Robotic Contest
2005, organized by the College of Electrical and Mechanical Engineering (EME), The National University of Science and Technology, Islamabad, and during an informal talks with the reporters.
He said the PAEC has, on self-help basis, done research in different fields and proved its worth in self-reliance and proficiency. "We have adopted the path of self reliance for our survival in this high speed and competitive era."
Butt said the government has planned to produce 8,800 megawatts of electricity in the next twenty-five years.
--SPA


http://www.spa.gov.sa/newsview.php?extend.269050

 

[sigatoka]

I personally believe that Pakistan should use the 20Billion that it would take to build the reactors to spend it on exploration and development of the natural gas fields of Balochistan. The problem is that Natural Gas is still cheaper than Nuclear power when the cost of capital is properlly costed into nuclear power price.

All utilities in the world which use Nuclear power do so because governments provide massive subsidies in relation to building the power plants.

The best test of the viablility of projects is financial markets. Not one nuclear reactor would be built in the world if the owners of the reactors were forced to borrow capital at market rates from capital markets.

If the reason is for military and power generation; than it does make sense but for pure economic reasons nuclear power just does not stack up when the gas fields of Balochistan are so underdeveloped.

 

[Sharjeel]

Originally posted by sigatoka@Nov 28 2005, 02:35 AM
I personally believe that Pakistan should use the 20Billion that it would take to build the reactors to spend it on exploration and development of the natural gas fields of Balochistan. The problem is that Natural Gas is still cheaper than Nuclear power when the cost of capital is properlly costed into nuclear power price.

All utilities in the world which use Nuclear power do so because governments provide massive subsidies in relation to building the power plants.

The best test of the viablility of projects is financial markets. Not one nuclear reactor would be built in the world if the owners of the reactors were forced to borrow capital at market rates from capital markets.

If the reason is for military and power generation; than it does make sense but for pure economic reasons nuclear power just does not stack up when the gas fields of Balochistan are so underdeveloped.

[post=3950]Quoted post[/post]​

i think they are affraid of the inflating energy prices and doent want to tie the price of such a key element to the price of something which might be the next oil...

 

[Neo]

Originally posted by sigatoka@Nov 28 2005, 03:35 AM
I personally believe that Pakistan should use the 20Billion that it would take to build the reactors to spend it on exploration and development of the natural gas fields of Balochistan. The problem is that Natural Gas is still cheaper than Nuclear power when the cost of capital is properlly costed into nuclear power price.

All utilities in the world which use Nuclear power do so because governments provide massive subsidies in relation to building the power plants.

The best test of the viablility of projects is financial markets. Not one nuclear reactor would be built in the world if the owners of the reactors were forced to borrow capital at market rates from capital markets.

If the reason is for military and power generation; than it does make sense but for pure economic reasons nuclear power just does not stack up when the gas fields of Balochistan are so underdeveloped.

I'll agree with you to some extent, we should invest more in exploration in Balochistan.
But we have to think long term and diversify our energy supply.
As the demand for oil grows, specially from emerging markets like China and India, expect fuelprices to increase to unprecedented levels.
Therefore its wise to invest now in our future needs.

 

[sigatoka]

India's energy imports have to go past Pakistan to reach India and hence their search for energy security in the form of nuclear energy. Pakistan is joined to Iran by geography and only needs a pipeline of gas from Iran to fulfill all heating and electricity generation needs from Iranian natural gas.

Even for India energy imports from Iran with LPG on tankers travelling further south of the Pakistani coast can supply India with cheaper energy than Nuclear power plants. They will only have to pay for slightly more transportation costs.

The simple fact remains that Nuclear power plants have to be provided with subsidized capital from the government. The subsidy is provided by taxing other more profitable activities.

 

[EagleEyes]

About Pakistan building up the nuclear power plants for energy. Is general gas pipeline a lot better than the nuclear power plant for us, because i have heard a lot about the risks and results of nuclear power plants on nature.

I believe it is ok to have nuclear power plants as long as they are further away from natural resources and cities, that way it is very unlikely that they will do any damage. Take U.S for example, a country very cleaner than Pakistan. So it should counter the fact that nuclear power plants will typically damage the natural resources, as long as one can handle the environment and take care of the plant right way, there shouldn't be any problem.

 

[RAPTOR]

About Pakistan building up the nuclear power plants for energy. Is general gas pipeline a lot better than the nuclear power plant for us, because i have heard a lot about the risks and results of nuclear power plants on nature.

I believe it is ok to have nuclear power plants as long as they are further away from natural resources and cities, that way it is very unlikely that they will do any damage. Take U.S for example, a country very cleaner than Pakistan. So it should counter the fact that nuclear power plants will typically damage the natural resources, as long as one can handle the environment and take care of the plant right way, there shouldn't be any problem.

I think its a great first step. Nuclear power is cleaner with no strain on the eco system. French reactor tech is pretty good. Karachi got its CANDU Nuclear Reactor from Canada in 71, it needs 4 more of those to meet the power requirements of Karachi alone. The 12 nuclear reactors Pakistan wants to buy from China are in the 300 mega watt range.

 

[Bull]

I think its a great first step. Nuclear power is cleaner with no strain on the eco system. French reactor tech is pretty good. Karachi got its CANDU Nuclear Reactor from Canada in 71, it needs 4 more of those to meet the power requirements of Karachi alone. The 12 nuclear reactors Pakistan wants to buy from China are in the 300 mega watt range.

Gas is costly and prices erratic with so much of poltical tensions around.Nuclear tech is not dependant any external things and is hence more stable and cleaner.

Safety must be given due weightage,thast the only concern.

 

[A.Rahman]

how much uranium does Pakistan mines anually ?

 

[melb4aust]

I read in Jang that Musharaf is going to visit China very soon and later. Pakistan initially decided to buy 2 reactors from china, but now they have decided to go for 2 more. Plus Pakistan have also contacted Germany to provide us few reactors and same kind of civil nuclear tech which US is providing India to meet power and electrical requirments.

 

[Bull]

Pakistan initially decided to buy 2 reactors from china, but now they have decided to go for 2 more..

i too have read abt it in the media

Plus Pakistan have also contacted Germany to provide us few reactors and same kind of civil nuclear tech which US is providing India to meet power and electrical requirments.

if thast so easy then whts all the fuss abt indo-US deal.

 

[Neo]

how much uranium does Pakistan mines anually ?

There are modest deposits in Dera Ismael Khan and Sindh, I can not find the link anymore but I read that 138 ton uranium is being produced annually which at the moment is sufficient to fulfil our needs.

Here's some old data;

Table 6.3 Uranium: annual and cumulative production at end-1999
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Excel Files[/FONT][FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

1999 production​

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[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

cumulative production to end-1999​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

tonnes of uranium​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Congo (Dem. Rep.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

25 600​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Gabon[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

294​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

26 190​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Namibia[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

2 689​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

69 411​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Niger[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

2 918​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

78 904​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]South Africa[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

1 093​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

152 694​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Total Africa[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

6 994​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

352 799​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Canada[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

8 214​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

329 840​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Mexico[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

49​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]United States of America[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

1 773​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

352 300​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Total North America[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

9 987​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

682 189​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Argentina[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

4​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

2 509​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Brazil[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

1 030​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Total South America[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

4​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

3 539​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]China[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

650​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

6 685​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]India[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

210​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

7 069​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Japan[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

87​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Kazakhstan[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

1 560​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

86 502​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Mongolia[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

535​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Pakistan[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

23​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

814​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Uzbekistan[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

2 130​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

93 701​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Total Asia[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

4 573​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

195 393​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Belgium[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

686​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Bulgaria[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

16 720​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Czech Republic[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

605​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

106 588​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Estonia[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

65​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Finland[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

30​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]France[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

439​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

74 598​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Germany[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

30​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

218 815​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Hungary[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

21 177​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Poland[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

660​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Portugal[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

10​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

3 703​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Romania[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

105​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

17 630​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Russian Federation[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

2 600​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

111 253​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Slovenia[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

382​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Spain[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

255​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

5 487​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Sweden[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

200​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Ukraine[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

1 000​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

9 000​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Total Europe[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

5 044​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

586 994​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Australia[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

5 984​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

83 578​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Total Oceania[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

5 984​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

83 578​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]TOTAL WORLD[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

32 586​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]

1 904 492​

​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]Notes:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]1. The cumulative production shown for China covers only the period 1990-1999 inclusive, as data for earlier years are not available[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,HELVETICA]2. Sources: WEC Member Committees 2000/2001; Uranium 1999: Resources, Production and Demand, 2000, OECD Nuclear Energy Agency and International Atomic Energy Agency[/FONT]

http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/publications/reports/ser/uranium/uranium.asp

Also check;
http://www.ceip.org/programs/npp/pakistan2.htm

 

[melb4aust]

if thast so easy then whts all the fuss abt indo-US deal.[/quote]

Its not that easy man, they have just contacted the Germany for that issue. It would be easier to get that from China though but im still not sure the pupose of contacting Germany then.

 

[Neo]

Germany or any other european including France is unlikely to sell reactors to Pakistan without US aproval.
We need FBR's which is not available thru China.
China can deliver reactors upto 350MW max.

 

[Bull]

if thast so easy then whts all the fuss abt indo-US deal.

Its not that easy man, they have just contacted the Germany for that issue. It would be easier to get that from China though but im still not sure the pupose of contacting Germany then.[/quote]

ok.

i think u shud post more here in this forum.