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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/20/pakistan-revoke-afghan-refugee-status

Pakistan plans to revoke Afghans' refugee status could displace 3 million

Afghanistan faces further crisis as world's biggest cluster of refugees faces expulsion

Pakistan plans to cancel refugee status for all Afghans living in the country at the end of this year, leaving some 3 million displaced people – the world's biggest cluster of refugees – facing possible expulsion to a country that many barely know.

Pushing the refugees into Afghanistan would be likely to create a new crisis for that country, already struggling with an insurgency and an economy almost entirely dependent on the western presence and the illicit drug trade.

The west is pressing Pakistan to reconsider its policy, which puts it at odds with the United Nations and other international partners. The international community and the Afghan government have no strategy prepared to deal with any such influx of people.

However, Pakistan's top administrator in charge of the Afghan refugee issue, Habibullah Khan, secretary of the ministry of states and frontier regions, told the Guardian that Islamabad would not relent. "The international community desires us to review this policy but we are clear on this point. The refugees have become a threat to law and order, security, demography, economy and local culture. Enough is enough," he said.

"If the international community is so concerned, they should open the doors of their countries to these refugees. Afghans will be more than happy to be absorbed by the developed countries, like western Europe, USA, Canada, Australia."


Pakistan has hosted Afghan refugees for more than 30 years, after they fled the Soviet invasion in the 1980s, the horrors of the civil war, Taliban rule and, most recently, the conflict triggered by the US-led invasion of the country in late 2001. Whole generations have grown up in Pakistan and do not know their homeland. It is the largest and longest-running refugee problem in the world.

There are currently 1.7 million Afghan refugees registered in Pakistan – more than half of them under 18 – of whom 630,000 live in camps. A further 1 million are estimated to be living in the country unregistered and therefore illegally.

"After 31 December 2012, there is no plan to extend the validity of the POR [proof of registration] cards of Afghan refugees. Those currently registered will lose the status of refugees. They will be treated under the law of the land. The provincial governments have already been asked to treat the existing unregistered refugees as illegal immigrants," said Khan.

Khan declined to spell out what would happen to the refugees after the end of the year but, if the policy sticks, they will all be in the country illegally and liable to be thrown out.

The UN is running a voluntary repatriation programme but it is making slow progress. So far this year, it has been able to entice just 41,000 people to return to Afghanistan, a slight increase on the 35,000 who returned in the first half of 2011. Since 2002, the UN has repatriated 3.7 million Afghans to Afghanistan, but the rate of return stalled in recent years as the war intensified, while it is likely that many of the returnees have slipped back into Pakistan, given that today there are almost as many Afghan refugees in Pakistan as there were in 2002.

Earlier this year, Baroness Amos, the former British cabinet minister who is now the UN humanitarian affairs chief, said she was "appalled" by the conditions for returning refugees, after visiting a camp for them in Kabul. Once they reach Afghanistan, returners are entitled to a one-off $150 (£96) per person from the UN.

Neill Wright, the Pakistan representative of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), said that the UN would still recognise registered Afghans in Pakistan as refugees after the end of 2012 under international law, "until a durable solution can be found".

"We hope that the government of Pakistan will continue to recognise them as refugees," said Wright. "Returning them to Afghanistan could destabilise the country further at a time when it is already experiencing instability from the drawdown of international forces."

While some Afghans have prospered in Pakistan, the poverty of the majority is obvious, even in Islamabad. On the outskirts of the city, opposite the huge and gleaming Metro supermarket where it is possible to buy everything from imported salmon to a washing machine, lies a little mud-shack settlement of Afghan refugees, all of them officially registered.

No one in the few dozen houses of Sorang Abadi village can read or write, none of their children goes to school, there is no electricity or water. Yet none wants to return to Afghanistan.

"I haven't stepped across the border in 30 years," said Sher Zaman, 62, originally from the northern Afghan province of Kunduz. "I don't even have a single room to go to in Afghanistan. I'm a poor man. I hope I can stay here and die here."
 
good move...
Too much pakistani resources have been spent on Afghan issueand Pakistan never gets praised or helped prortionate to its contribution.
 
We no longer have the resources to support a 6 million strong refugee population. After this step is complete, I hope the GoP takes steps to curb the smuggling of flour and cattle into Afghanistan along with the smuggling of opiates out of it.
 
Pakistan actually is getting balls to say 'no' to the west.

If you guys followed the west like Indians, the west would love you like they do indians.

If the west loves you, that means you are a stooge of the west.
 
These people will have nothing when they go back. I'm wondering if the Taliban will have "recruiters" there to meet them; who else do they have to turn to.
 
3 Million Illegal Aliens are a big threat to national security of Pakistan - They should be sent back to Afghanistan ASAP and maybe NATO countries can provide them citizenship if Afghanistan cannot accept them.However, those who want to stay here should be go through rigorous tests which ensures that they are not a threat to Pakistani Society and then should be given Pakistani Citizenship.
 
These people will have nothing when they go back. I'm wondering if the Taliban will have "recruiters" there to meet them; who else do they have to turn to.


Afghan camps are already frequent haunts for the Taliban, large caches of arms and ammunitions are recovered in raids across the year. So they can either cause trouble here or there, doesn't make much of a difference.
 
they are threat to law and order and are involved in crimes. So better to send them back where their fellows love india and west and hate us.
 
3 Million Illegal Aliens are a big threat to national security of Pakistan - They should be sent back to Afghanistan ASAP and maybe NATO countries can provide them citizenship if Afghanistan cannot accept them.However, those who want to stay here should be go through rigorous tests which ensures that they are not a threat to Pakistani Society and then should be given Pakistani Citizenship.

Those who wanted Pakistani citizenship already have it, those left are the ones that hate Pakistan to the core, they eat from our plates and then spit in the same.
 
good move...
Too much pakistani resources have been spent on Afghan issueand Pakistan never gets praised or helped prortionate to its contribution.
OHHHH Yesssssss!!!!!
All Afghans must be sent to the West especially USA and UK cuz they have been fighting their wars against the USSR... so they deserve to be there within their countries ........Please do it as soon as possible.The all afghans would love to be in the west.......:smokin:

Pakistan plans to revoke Afghans' refugee status could displace 3 million | World news | guardian.co.uk

If the West is sincere with the Afghan pplz they shold absorb all of them within their countries.....:D
 
good step and then after send them back close borders too damn pak afghan border crossing is like crossing a city . as afghan economy is much more stronger then pak now as per sher malang . we should push them back to home :tup:.after that target operation arrest and deport .till last migrant .
 
"If the international community is so concerned, they should open the doors of their countries to these refugees. Afghans will be more than happy to be absorbed by the developed countries, like western Europe, USA, Canada, Australia."

Well said. Afghans won't mind living in Europe or America. Not to forget the shining India. :rolleyes:
 
Pakistan actually is getting balls to say 'no' to the west.

If you guys followed the west like Indians, the west would love you like they do indians.

If the west loves you, that means you are a stooge of the west.
Learn from few posters of your country who irritate us, mock us and look down upon us YET they do it with posting relevant information. I wonder why poster's like you are not given ban seeing your recent posts in most of the threads bringing India without any reason.

@topic
It would be hard for Pakistani govt. to do so if western countries threaten it with sanctions on moral or whatever ground, which they create out of thin air.

These people will have nothing when they go back. I'm wondering if the Taliban will have "recruiters" there to meet them; who else do they have to turn to.
And there will be no doubt which side will they join. Isn't it obvious they will happily work against the country who sent them back. It may bite them back. Unless proper structure and jobs are not created or some system is not set up, groups against Pakistan will get soldiers in numbers. We have seen this effect in past too. It will also make those "spy agencies" to create new groups against Pakistan.

Repercussions in distant future should be kept into mind before taking any action.

3 Million Illegal Aliens are a big threat to national security of Pakistan - They should be sent back to Afghanistan ASAP and maybe NATO countries can provide them citizenship if Afghanistan cannot accept them.However, those who want to stay here should be go through rigorous tests which ensures that they are not a threat to Pakistani Society and then should be given Pakistani Citizenship.
Atleast you can control them from getting influenced by anti-Pakistani faction in your country rather then sending them back to camps established to weaken Pakistan and where you won't have any control.

Keep your friends close and potential enemy closer...
 
Learn from few posters of your country who irritate us, mock us and look down upon us YET they do it with posting relevant information. I wonder why poster's like you are not given ban seeing your recent posts in most of the threads bringing India without any reason.

@topic
It would be hard for Pakistani govt. to do so if western countries threaten it with sanctions on moral or whatever ground, which they create out of thin air.

And there will be no doubt which side will they join. Isn't it obvious they will happily work against the country who sent them back. It may bite them back. Unless proper structure and jobs are not created or some system is not set up, groups against Pakistan will get soldiers in numbers. We have seen this effect in past too. It will also make those "spy agencies" to create new groups against Pakistan.

Repercussions in distant future should be kept into mind before taking any action.

The west is pressing Pakistan to reconsider its policy

However, Pakistan's top administrator in charge of the Afghan refugee issue,
Habibullah Khan, secretary of the ministry of states and frontier regions, told the Guardian that Islamabad would not relent. "The international community desires us to review this policy but we are clear on this point. The refugees have become a threat to law and order, security, demography, economy and local culture. Enough is enough," he said.
 

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