Pakistan successfully tests night launch of surface to surface ballistic missile Ghaznavi: ISPR

[Maarkhoor]

Anti radiation missiles of no use , when it can be detected from 400-500 km distance. Only MIRV can dodge S-400

 

[PakSword]

Anti radiation missiles of no use , when it can be detected from 400-500 km distance. Only MIRV can dodge S-400

The tweet is to clarify the understanding of your type of people.. that no ABM in current or near future inventory of the neighbor can stop this missile.. Now, why it can't be stopped? you don't have the knowledge.. but if our DG ISPR is saying something.. and tested a seemingly useless missile (even according to Pakistani posters).. just try to understand what he means..

For S-400 we have anti-Radiation missiles, Ra'ad from air and Babur etc from ground....S-400 can't do much.

Why use Anti Radiation Missiles when we have a cheaper alternative available?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Why use Anti Radiation Missiles when we have a cheaper alternative available?

Ballistic missile turns up the heat more, since enemy can't distinguish between nuclear or non-nuclear ballistic missiles, send some radiation missiles to destroy their anti ABM missiles capability then launch B.M....

B.Ms don't have pinpoint accuracy minus Nasr which have...so better options are against S-400 like threats from air launched anti radiation missiles.

 

[PakSword]

How are you so damm sure that it cannot be intercepted. If USA doesnt dare send its missile in syria in S-400 protected zone. Then how can a missile do so ?

loll.. USA hasn't tried yet.. You think USA doesn't have any counter to S-400?

By the way, other than S-400, your Air Defense failed on 27th of February.. and shot its own helicopter..

There are many ways to counter your air defense systems.. This is one of the many.. and the easiest one in my opinion.. unless you want to install your ABMs at more than 300 kms away.. which will reduce their effectiveness quite significantly..

See, war is not a bachon ka khel.. that you have one weapon you can use as a trump card.. come to reality.. you are not facing Sri Lanka or Bangladesh, or Nepal.. and you are not surrounding our forces this time like you guys did in 1971 thousands of kms away.

Ballistic missile turns up the heat more, since enemy can't distinguish between nuclear or non-nuclear ballistic missiles, send some radiation missiles to destroy their anti ABM missiles capability then launch B.M....

B.Ms don't have pinpoint accuracy minus Nasr which have...so better options are against S-400 like threats from air launched anti radiation missiles.

What I understand from the press release.. this missile is meant for ABMs to be honest.. I think Pakistan will use them first... if they fail then Anti Radiation Missiles will come into effect.. but lets see..

 

[PakSword]

If USA is so confident of its aircrafts and missiles then why cancel the F-35 to turkey over S-400 purchase.

Business my friend business.. Turkey is a NATO nation and US doesn't want Turkey to buy anything significant and expensive from Russia...

Itni asaan baat tumhain samajh nahi aati pyaray?

 

[HRK]

Though one thing I cannot understand is that on TV channels they are bragging about testing it during night time and it did hit it's Target which according to them is a acheivement.
The missile follow the GPS system to reach it's Target it doesn't have eyes so it's not matter whether it's day or not the GPS navigation system works the same way.How exactly firing during night time is different ?

probably tested in GPS denied scenario using celestial-inertial guidance systems .... in this case exhibition of night launch capability and successful destruction of target is a commendable success.

 

[Alpha BeeTee]

Congrats

and those who are disappointed, are exactly the ones that couldn't understand the reason for Ghaznavi Test. In fact you guys were also surprised on 27th Feb. Please, don't be ungrateful.

Can you plz educate us on the reason?

 

[PakSword]

My very dear Pak,

#PakSurpriseDay2.0

However, let us never get ahead ourselves and start chest thumping... we are not ganguz afterall!

We need to look at this test in multi-dimmensional manner... and not just stand-alone-event....

What we are looking at is annoucement / hint at Integerated Defence-Offence Sytem. As you rightly pointed out that it is one in many steps in EscalationLadder.

We have never announced but we do have anti-BM capabilities as well... might not be intergalactic...but we possess them nevertheless.

Our response is developing... what we are looking at is Full Spectrum Deterence Dominance without eating grass!

How much S-400 costs? And how much our Anti-S400/500 System would cost... ?

Just to create a broader context... Blk3 of JF ... how much it costs and how much Rapaael costs?

Now if we put all these aspects in our calculations and look at our own defence-industrial output.. we can perform a rational cost-benefit analysis.

Just a point to ponder: GanguDaesh has been against CPEC AND BRI from day one... Illegal Annexation of IoJK needs to be seen in broader context....

What is the total investment outlay of BRI ? @ps3linux

And what is the Geo-EconomicValue of BRI...? Why is Gawadar so important? And all those paid-terrorist operating from 'brotherly' states???? CPEC Command incoming!

Calculations. Calculations. And some more Calculations.​

What is $20Bln compared to $3Trillion in investment, Geo-Economic Benefits and Re-shapping of Global Power Architecture?

And here we have the 'lot' ... bent on/paid-for? to discredit achievement of Our Boys and Girls!

We live in a HybridWorld.... and Our Struggle is Hybrid.

Hopefully, PNS gets the Chinese ships sooner than later... and subs need to be in the oven faster....

Let us just wait for the statelite pictures coming out of IoJK... Next Surprise!


Just to add some masala/mirch ... don't you find it amusing that INS chief has to come out and talk about underwater Jem.... and IAF had to hold piece of PakDanda in its hand to prove of their victories... courtesy @Khafee

Fully agree.. that's why I am not overjoyed.. I am taking this news bit by bit.. not disappointed at all like other Pak posters and not too much over joyed like Gangu telis.. That's why I have mentioned the possibility of failure and brought Anti Radiation Missiles (as mentioned by @Maarkhoor ) into perspective..

Gangus think that by having S-400, they have the trump card.. not just on this forum, when I spoke to them last year when the deal was being finalized, they were overjoyed like anything.. saying now PAF can't come within 400 kms of the border.. lolll

Not just that, they possess Israeli systems and these were active on 27th February.. and also they were saying PAF can't come within 300 kms of LoC because they have SU 30.. PAF went in.. spent some time... came back took down two of their jets.. took one pilot... made their Israeli AD system think that the poor heli was wrecking havoc, killed that in return..

Turkey will gain significant clout over Nato countries. Turkey is not a big defence purchaser in NATO or Non Nato countries. In USSR times, the border was quite close to that of USSR. but since russia is far and america has made China as enemy no.1 , priorities have changed. America too scared for even providing Radar Wave emission of F-35/f-22 near S-400 as all ions will be detected and may be used by Russia .

Samjhe Chachaa..

Ja bhaee lagalay S-400 aur usi tarah uchal jaisay tum log SU 30 le ke uchaltay thay.. Jab wohi S-400 morr ke andar deingay hum tou baat karaingay.. don't waste my time now.. I trust my DG ISPR..

 

[SecularNationalist]

probably tested in GPS denied scenario using celestial-inertial guidance systems .... in this case exhibition of night launch capability and successful destruction of target is a commendable success.

Can you please explain how celestial-inertial guidance system works?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Anti radiation missiles of no use , when it can be detected from 400-500 km distance. Only MIRV can dodge S-400

If you stay low S-400 radar range will reduce more then a half, and we have alternate option too, Ra'ad/Babur, terrain following cruise missiles and remember bro S-400 anti cruise missile capability is only 40 km, in future may be we able to get harpy like suicide drones that's clone by China @Sharab Shaks

 

[LeGenD]

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Pakistan successfully tests night launch of surface to surface ballistic missile Ghaznavi: ISPR
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Pakistan has successfully carried out the night training launch of Ghaznavi, a surface to surface ballistic missile, Director General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor said on Thursday.

The missile "is capable of delivering multiple types of warheads up to 290 kilometres", said Maj Gen Ghafoor via a tweet, which also included a video of the launch.


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Pakistan successfully carried out night training launch of surface to surface ballistic missile Ghaznavi, capable of delivering multiple types of warheads upto 290 KMs. CJCSC & Services Chiefs congrat team. President & PM conveyed appreciation to team & congrats to the nation.




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According to DG ISPR, the president and prime minister "conveyed appreciation to the team and congratulations to the nation" for the successful testing of the missile.

Earlier in May, Pakistan conducted a successful training launch of Shaheen-II, a surface-to-surface ballistic missile.

In January, Pakistan witnesses another successful launch of the tactical ballistic missile Nasr as part of the Army Strategic Forces Command training exercise.

The missile is capable of defeating — by assured penetration — "any currently available BMD [Ballistic Missile Defence] system in our neighbourhood or any other system under procurement [or] development", the military's media wing had said.

Welcome development.

For critics:-

Ghaznavi is a TBM.

TBM = Theatre Ballistic Missile

TBMs are suitable for attacking high value targets near the border including military bases, armed garrisons, grid stations and command & communications infrastructure.

Please keep in mind that in the domain of DEFENSE, bigger is not always better or an answer to every manner of challenge out there. Every type of weapon have its share of qualities and limitations.

MRBMs are suitable for attacking distant targets and would be useless at close quarters operational situations.

As for testing in nighttime conditions, this is an important consideration because nighttime conditions are ideal for evaluating the accuracy and effectiveness of sensor systems involved. Secondly, military operations can be expected in nighttime conditions so 'weapons in focus' should be able to deliver meaningful results in nighttime conditions.

Regarding penetration possibilities, TBMs present a very short window for a potential intercept and India most likely does not have sufficient defensive arrangements in its arsenal to neutralize TBMs in operationally relevant situations.

Credible defenses against TBMs are 'very expensive' to procure in large numbers; India will have to spend a huge sum of money for this end alone. In case YOU might have noticed, Indian defense budget is not close to that of China, not even close to that of Saudi Arabia; Indian arms procurement procedures are exceedingly bureaucratic and slow, so we can rest easy.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Fully agree.. that's why I am not overjoyed.. I am taking this news bit by bit.. not disappointed at all like other Pak posters and not too much over joyed like Gangu telis.. That's why I have mentioned the possibility of failure and brought Anti Radiation Missiles (as mentioned by @Maarkhoor ) into perspective..

Gangus think that by having S-400, they have the trump card.. not just on this forum, when I spoke to them last year when the deal was being finalized, they were overjoyed like anything.. saying now PAF can't come within 400 kms of the border.. lolll

Not just that, they possess Israeli systems and these were active on 27th February.. and also they were saying PAF can't come within 300 kms of LoC because they have SU 30.. PAF went in.. spent some time... came back took down two of their jets.. took one pilot... made their Israeli AD system think that the poor heli was wrecking havoc, killed that in return..


Ja bhaee lagalay S-400 aur usi tarah uchal jaisay tum log SU 30 le ke uchaltay thay.. Jab wohi S-400 morr ke andar deingay hum tou baat karaingay.. don't waste my time now.. I trust my DG ISPR..

AAFREEN - Bohat AALA

 

[HRK]

Can you please explain how celestial-inertial guidance system works?

its a combination of inertial and celestial guidance and work as backup systems in case GPS signals are denied
for basic understanding read these links 1(read item number: 16.5.2.2 from the link), 2

 

[Khafee]

Please,it was nothing more then a show to calm masses.

On the contrary, this test proved new parameters, and has nothing to do with earlier tests.

 

[The Eagle]

Can you plz educate us on the reason?

The thread is full of information in tid bits through different posts... all you need to do is go through the posts discussing various factors of this Night Test.