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To shoot for the moon----you have to seek the stars----.
It was on the similar helicopter deal that I had made that proposal----. Take away from the thing that they control you with----and they will go crazy---take away the power that they have over you--and they will go mad---.
For that very reason---Paf should have taken those 18 J10C's last year---china was very willing----the deal would have been tremedous.
If the J10 has issues---trhe the paf should take care of them and make it better for both---themselves and for china as well.
They have done it many a times before with chinese aircraft---so what is stopping it now---?
@PAFMAN --- Paf is LYING about the J10---they just want to stay in their comfort zones and that is all---otherwise the J10C with aesa is an extremely potent aircraft---.
Blackmail and putting a bullet to one's head is a sign of desperation. It will hardly put you in the good books of the Americans let alone get you entry into the NSG. I thought Pakistan was after a similar nuclear deal with the USA like India has?
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Sir---you are putting a spin on it---there is no blackmail---. It is called us going our different ways---. Plain and simple.
Finally a good thread ....Hi,
Let the U S stop the sale----. Pakistan must increase the production of nuclear weapons by at least a 1000%.
So if the U S wants to cut off the conventional power base---no problem---let us increase the nuclear threshold---.
The U S senators think that they got us by the ball joints---that is fine---let us increase the threshold---let us take the number of nuclear weapons to 500 at least---and let us start serious production of ICBM's---and other missile systems---.
If the U S wants to play the game---that is fine----two can play it better---. Let us see who blinks first.
That road may lead to a dark tunnel my friend, concerns were raised during the last strategic meet you had with America regarding battlefield nukes. Pressing with this action could lead to dire consequences for the entire region.
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You are correct that it might---. If our ballz are squeezed---then purpose is to have dire consequences for the entire region----and for those who are partners in creating this scenario.
Well in that case, if you share we can probably overlook this transgression. Europe likes bribes.
But being serious for a second, Europe adheres to non-proliferation treaties - which also means punishing nuclear proliferators. Pakistan can build its own, but the moment it opens its nuclear program for sale it triggers all kinds of international red-lines.
If people here want to think Pakistan Stronk, Europe wouldn't dare... well, we f*cked up Iran for a few decades, so respect the precedent.
sir, it seems like a comedy of errors by the P.A.F,NO?If they would have done that last year---and I told the heirarchy----earlier last year----get the J10C's the chinese want to give you---they said no---tried to explain it in many ways---but no---Khotay wali NO----.
It was the same NO---that the paf air marshall did not want to change his mind when told that the french won't deliver in the end----he did not want to believe that---till they said NO---and then he made all kinds of excuses---woh hamein nahin pata tha kay aisay hoga.
it's not black mail. it's manipulation. every country has the right to look after her own interests. if we don;t get sufficient conventional weapons then we will and must increase the nuclear capability and BM tech to give a message to the enemy not to try any misadventure.Blackmail and putting a bullet to one's head is a sign of desperation. It will hardly put you in the good books of the Americans let alone get you entry into the NSG. I thought Pakistan was after a similar nuclear deal with the USA like India has?
Forget Europe,imagine how Russia or even China would feel about a state handing nuclear popsickles for pennies to every entity interested out there.
Forgive the puerile ramblings of some of my countrymen; as you can see that the equally infantile jingoism of our Indian neighbors brings out the worst and never the best in us and vice versa.
Our nukes exist wholly and solely to protect Pakistan and must never...ever...be used. Frankly the only reason I know that we have them is because our adversaries have them.
So how was your bakery delivery ?
No reply in the previous post....did I hit a raw nerve ?
I told you that your croquembouche looked like the Leaning Tower of Pisa but did you listen ?
I thought that would be the case pushed into a corner you bite back right?
Same with the US, China and Russia. The others have them and we can't be left without them. France is somewhat of a holdover, and so is the UK. North Korea is perusing a viable nuclear deterrent because of the three bigs too.
This is why unilateral disarmament is a pipe dream and total disarmament is unreasonable. So long as mistrust reigns in their relationships these types of weapons will persist as part of an enduring stockpile.