Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Russia among 37 states backing China's Xinjiang policy

[LeGenD]

This news is an absolute eye-opener. Supposedly Islamic countries are no longer Islamic in their choices at international stage - height of hypocrisy. Dajjal is truly upon us.

If UN is able to investigate Uyghur issue in China, this move will settle the international debate about reported human rights violations in the affected region. But...

Good luck with addressing Palestine and Kashmir. Now the international community will not give a shit.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Shame on us. May Allah make it easy for Uighar brothers and sisters.

Pakistan should not be custodian of all Muslim world problem. We have billion more problem and we can not afford to have another problem specially with China.

 

[LeGenD]

Pakistan should not be custodian of all Muslim world problem. We have billion more problem and we can not afford to have another problem specially with China.

This isn't about being custodian, but about showing concern for the plight of Muslims around the world. As a Muslim-majority country, we cannot even do as much?

Islam > Nations (As a Muslim, you need to understand this much)

Think about crying WOLF in relation to Kashmir and Palestine now, these voices will fall on deaf ears. In fact, this saga will give the carte blanche to every country to treat Muslims in the manner it want to. Imagine this kind of world.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

This isn't about being custodian, but about showing concern for the plight of Muslims around the world. As a Muslim-majority country, we cannot even do as much?

Islam > Nations (As a Muslim, you need to understand this much)

Think about crying WOLF in relation to Kashmir and Palestine now, these voices will fall on deaf ears. In fact, this saga will give the carte blanche to every country to treat Muslims in the manner it want to. Imagine this kind of world.

This is the problem with Pakistan in todays world. We worry too foking much about other muslims while our 200 million suffer because of our stupid foreign policy.

 

[beijingwalker]

This isn't about being custodian, but about showing concern for the plight of Muslims around the world. As a Muslim-majority country, we cannot even do as much?

Islam > Nations (As a Muslim, you need to understand this much)

Think about crying WOLF in relation to Kashmir and Palestine now, these voices will fall on deaf ears. In fact, this saga will give the carte blanche to every country to treat Muslims in the manner it want to. Imagine this kind of world.

If the whole Muslim world supports China over Xinjiang, why do you want Pakistan to fight the whole Muslim world and China? Not even one Muslim nation joined the western block to criticize China, they clearly know what the west is up to, nothing sounds better to the west than pitting Muslim world against China, when enemies are at each other's throats, you can be sitting pretty, but not everyone is a fool.

 

[LeGenD]

If the whole Muslim world supports China over Xinjiang, why do you want Pakistan to fight the whole Muslim world and China? Not even one Muslim nation joined the western block to criticize China, they clearly know what the west is up to, nothing sounds better to the west than pitting Muslim world against China, when enemies are at each other's throats, you can be sitting pretty, but not everyone is a fool.

Correction: spineless governments at the helm, not Muslims in general.

I am not advocating 'fighting' China over matters of Xinjinag. My position isn't about WEST versus China either.

Point is hypocrisy and selective judgement of so-called Muslim Ummah.

When a large number of countries, and Xinjiang runaways, have pointed out that Muslims are being oppressed by the state in Xinjiang, then a UN-led investigation can settle the matter. If China is doing nothing wrong, then this wouldn't be an issue. However, Chinese official reactions give the impression that something is wrong indeed.

I have never been vocal about this issue until now - when not a single supposedly Islamic country voted in favor for a UN-led investigation of treatment in Muslims in Xinjiang.

Looks like MONEY is the new GOD of this world - everything is for sale including soul.

This will set a new precedent in this world - treat Muslims in any manner you want to and you will get away with it. Forget about justice for Muslims in Palestine, Kashmir and Myanmar now.

 

[beijingwalker]

Correction: spineless governments at the helm, not Muslims in general.

I am not advocating 'fighting' China over matters of Xinjinag. My position isn't about WEST versus China either.

Point is hypocrisy and selective judgement of so-called Muslim Ummah.

When a large number of countries, and Xinjiang runaways, have pointed out that Muslims are being oppressed by the state in Xinjiang, then a UN-led investigation can settle the matter. If China is doing nothing wrong, then this wouldn't be an issue. However, Chinese official reactions give the impression that something is wrong indeed.

I have never been vocal about this issue until now - when not a single supposedly Islamic country voted in favor for a UN-led investigation of treatment in Muslims in Xinjiang.

Looks like MONEY is the new GOD of this world - everything is for sale including soul.

This will set a new precedent in this world - treat Muslims in any manner you want to and you will get away with it. Forget about justice for Muslims in Palestine, Kashmir and Myanmar now.

Actually China is inviting all people to go to Xinjiang to see it for themselves, some western diplomats refused to go though. China is a sovereign country and any sovereign nations have to right to defend their sovereignty, we will not do whatever the west tells us to do, and China is a responsible nation, we stay in the UN human rights council, unlike US, who quit the council like a spoiled child.

 

[LeGenD]

Actually China is inviting all people to go to Xinjiang to see it for themselves, some western diplomats refused to go though. China is a sovereign country and any sovereign nations have to right to defend their sovereignty, we will not do whatever the west tells us to do, and China is a responsible nation, we stay in the UN human rights council, unlike US, who quit the council like a spoiled child.

Inviting diplomats and staging realities for them is easiest thing to do.

UN-led investigation is a different matter altogether.

 

[beijingwalker]

I am not advocating 'fighting' China over matters of Xinjinag. My position isn't about WEST versus China either.

In theory you can separate them, in reality, real politics, they are inseparable, it's all part of global real political game waged by the west to divide and conquer.

Inviting diplomats and staging realities for them is easiest thing to do.

UN-led investigation is a different matter altogether.

China is not Iraq, even Iraq gave up their national pride and did all the west biddings, what happened to them in the end? The west doesn't care what they say, they just want the result that they want.

 

[War Thunder]

I am glad Indonesia doesn't sign that support letter.

And the sad thing is Pakistan did. I don't know what exactly is going on in China, but if they are holding people into the so called "education"/"Correction" camps, then they are committing grave crimes against humanity and some one needs to stand up and do something about it.
People refer to the US as a tyrant, but atleast you get to hear about an Abu Gareb and what happened there. Wait till you have China fighting wars and then wonder if you will even hear about the several Abu Garebs they construct.

Being dependent,takes away values and morality from a people as they end up having to compromise. If people know a wrong and they are not speaking against it and instead speaking for it, then God have mercy on our souls.

How about Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations?

Those Arab nations follow the interest of their regimes. They themselves will be hosting several "detention and correction centers" in their own states, let alone not supporting another tyrant regime.

 

[Goku]

And the sad thing is Pakistan did. I don't know what exactly is going on in China, but if they are holding people into the so called "education"/"Correction" camps, then they are committing grave crimes against humanity and some one needs to stand up and do something about it.
People refer to the US as a tyrant, but atleast you get to hear about an Abu Gareb and what happened there. Wait till you have China fighting wars and then wonder if you will even hear about the several Abu Garebs they construct.

Being dependent,takes away values and morality from a people as they end up having to compromise. If people know a wrong and they are not speaking against it and instead speaking for it, then God have mercy on our souls.



Those Arab nations follow the interest of their regimes. They themselves will be hosting several "detention and correction centers" in their own states, let alone not supporting another tyrant regime.

Money silences all mouths

 

[Rasengan]

Pakistan should not be custodian of all Muslim world problem. We have billion more problem and we can not afford to have another problem specially with China.

Exactly. Some members have claimed the issue of Palestine and Kashmir will weaken as a result of the stance taken by Muslim states on Xinjiang. This is complete hogwash. When did the UN give a flying hoot about the death of innocent people? Did they punish the Israeli Govt with sanctions in the last 70 years? No.

We have to accept the reality. No Muslim state is powerful enough to do jackshit, certainly Pakistan is at the top of that lists. Our economy is on life support, we can't even keep our own house in order, yet we want to shift our weight around. I have repeated this dozens of times. If you feel so strongly about this issue then take a trip to China instead of reading a newspaper. I only care on the national interests of Pakistan, I want my country to one day be an economic giant to galvanize the Muslim world under it's banner. But this can't happen in our current position.

 

[Indos]

And the sad thing is Pakistan did. I don't know what exactly is going on in China, but if they are holding people into the so called "education"/"Correction" camps, then they are committing grave crimes against humanity and some one needs to stand up and do something about it.
People refer to the US as a tyrant, but atleast you get to hear about an Abu Gareb and what happened there. Wait till you have China fighting wars and then wonder if you will even hear about the several Abu Garebs they construct.

Actually Indonesian delegation who has visited the camp has spoken up to the press and said that they are not satisfied with China handling on Uigyur and so called vocational camp. You can use Google translate on this https://news.detik.com/berita/d-4447233/usai-kunjungi-muslim-xinjiang-ini-langkah-delegasi-indonesia. BBC has also been invited by Chinese authorities and has made a video about the condition on those vocational camp.

I do understand about Pakistan condition that is relied on China investment on CPEC and other program that make it cannot speak up on the issue freely.

Currently Muslim countries are still weak but I predict after 2030 they are going to be much stronger inshaAllah. I also hope Pakistan can improve its economic condition and solve its economic problem as soon as possible.

 

[beijingwalker]

Actually Indonesian delegation who has visited the camp has spoken up to the press and said that they are not satisfied with China handling on Uigyur and so called vocational camp. You can use Google translate on this https://news.detik.com/berita/d-4447233/usai-kunjungi-muslim-xinjiang-ini-langkah-delegasi-indonesia. BBC has also been invited by Chinese authorities and has made a video about the condition on those vocational camp.

I do understand about Pakistan condition that is relied on China investment on CPEC and other program that make it cannot speak up on the issue freely.

Currently Muslim countries are still weak but I predict after 2030 they are going to be much stronger inshaAllah. I also hope Pakistan can improve its economic condition and solve its economic problem as soon as possible.

Indonesia can take them all and see what will happen to your country

Indonesian forces kill two Chinese Uighur fighters
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/indonesian-forces-kill-chinese-uighur-fighters-160316073253769.html

 

[denel]

China didn’t invade or attack a single muslim country, but how many Muslim countries were invaded, bombed, destroyed, and turned into torture chambers/rape centers by Western countries?

We Muslims are not pawns for the Western games against China.

I may disagree with China about some Uyghur policies but I don’t believe they are trying to eradicate Islam.

It would be hypocritical to stand against China on this issue and ignore the ongoing carnage caused/supported by Western countries against Muslim civilians of Mali, Syria, Somalia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan/Kashmir, Yemen, Egypt, Sudan, CAR, Burma, India, Israel, and Palestine.

Anger and outrage should be proportional to the amount of injustice and oppression, not by political expediency and acceptance of the West.

So-called armies of freedom and democracy have killed more Muslims than any other civilization.

Friend, you are clueless on what is going in China. They are removing any name of God from being uttered or remembered. complete bulldozing of mosques; children are seperated from the kids to be brainwashed into communist mindset and report on parents if they fast or pray. My friend has just come back from there and he saw various incidents and he is a professor who has been going there for decades across many areas. for the first time he said the situation for moslems is very very grave; they want to eliminate any form of worship period.