Pakistan rubbishes Indian claims of Surgical Strike inside Pakistan.

[Bharat Muslim]

seems media guy..

Media guy in a surgical strike at LOC?!!

 

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India begins operation PAY BACK with 'surgical strikes' on militant bases in Azad Kashmir killing 38 jihadis and two of their handlers

• India's 'surgical strikes' killed 38 jihadis and two of their handlers
• The conflict comes as a response to the killing of 18 Indian soldiers in Uri by alleged Pakistan-backed militants
• Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said in a statement: 'Our intent for a peaceful neighborhood should not be mistaken as our weakness'

By MAIL TODAY BUREAU

PUBLISHED: 18:17 EST, 29 September 2016 | UPDATED: 18:25 EST, 29 September 2016

The Indian Army's elite commandos crossed the Line of Control and hit militant launch pads in Azad Kashmir with “surgical strikes”, killing 38 jihadis and two of their handlers.

The move comes as an unprecedented retributive response to this month’s deadly attack on the Uri military base.

Sir G according to this and pic below your troops did not cross LoC !!!!!!!!!! Is that what media saying now??
This is what our ISPR said cross border or CROSS LoC attack ,
which faced Pakistani Patrolling and got hit by our side and bodies of your solders are there because the army left them while retreating and did not pick them up because so close to LoC(In direct lane of fire).

This is the first time India has publicly acknowledged such an attack in an indication of the Narendra Modi government’s muscular approach to dealing with terrorism and threats to its security.

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The Indian Army's elite commandos crossed the Line of Control and hit militant launch pads in Azad Kashmir with “surgical strikes”, killing 38 jihadis and two of their handlers

The daring raid triggered a nationwide alert for retaliatory strikes by Pakistan even though the neighbouring country denied that Indian troops crossed the LoC, instead claiming that that just two of its soldiers were killed in intensive cross-border firing.

Analysts see the move as a massive departure from India’s previous policy of “strategic restraint”.

The dramatic strikes turned out to be a carefully planned and well-executed operation in which maximum damage was inflicted in a covert offensive action that lasted just four hours.

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It started shortly after midnight and was over by 4am, before the break of dawn.

The retaliatory response came around 10 days after 18 Indian Army soldiers were killed in a pre-dawn raid by Jaish-e-Mohammad terrorists carrying incendiary ammunition in Kashmir’s Uri town on September 18.

Sources said Pakistan were slow to respond before eventually launching a counter-offensive by opening heavy mortar and artillery fire which continued till 7am.

By that time, Indian army commandos had accomplished their task and returned safely.

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Around 25 commandos split in small groups were flown close to LoC in army’s Dhruv helicopters and they sneaked across the fence to strike at the terrorists waiting to enter Jammu and Kashmir

The LoC was crossed at seven locations in four sectors in Azad Kashmir - Bhimber, Kel, Tatta Pani (Hotspring) and Leepa.

Around 25 commandos split in small groups were flown close to LoC in army’s Dhruv helicopters and they sneaked across the fence to strike at the terrorists waiting to enter Jammu and Kashmir.

Armed with M4 assault rifles, grenades, smoke bombs, Under-Barrel Grenade Launchers (UBGLs), night-vision devices and helmet cameras, the Indian commandos struck the targets with precision, highly placed military officials said.

The attack, which took place around three kilometers inside Azad Kashmir, caught the jihadis by surprise.

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Indian Border Security Force (BSF) personnel stand guard at the India-Pakistan Wagah Border, about 35 km from Amritsar after the Punjab state government issued a warning to villagers to evacuate from a 10 km radius from the India-Pakistan border ©Narinder Nanu (AFP)

Sources said the entire operation was recorded on camera. The footage will be made available later, said officials.

The army’s response came days after Prime Minister Narendra Modi delivered a speech that many saw as a call for restraint even as the government went ahead with diplomatic means to isolate Pakistan.

Military intelligence officials had been keeping a sharp eye on the terror launch pads and militant movements across the LoC for almost a week, sources said.

A flurry of activity followed the strike, which was made public in the afternoon at an unprecedented briefing addressed by the Director General Military Operations (DGMO) Lt Gen Ranbir Singh.

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India's 'surgical strikes' killed 38 jihadis and two of their handlers

“Based on receiving specific and credible inputs that some terrorist teams had positioned themselves at launch pads along the LoC to carry out infiltration and conduct terrorist strikes inside Jammu and Kashmir and in various metros in other states, the Indian army conducted surgical strikes at several of these launch pads to pre-empt infiltration by terrorists,” he said,

Singh said he had also spoken to his Pakistani counterpart and expressed concern over the infiltration attempt.

The announcement was made after Prime Minister Modi chaired a meeting of the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) where the DGMO gave a detailed presentation of the operation.

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar, national security adviser Ajit Doval and army chief Dalbir Singh monitored the whole operation in a 'war room' in South Block.

The PM was kept up to date on all developments.

Modi's War Room: Defence minister Manohar Parrikar, national security adviser Ajit Doval and army chief Dalbir Singh monitored the whole operation in a 'war room' in South Block

A nationwide alert was sounded as the government anticipated retaliation by Pakistani forces.

The border areas were vacated and the air force and navy were put on standby.

Even during the 1999 Kargil war India didn't cross the LoC. However, this time the government gave a clear mandate to the army to go across the border and attack.

The Indian Army maintained that the targets of the strikes were terrorists and asked the Pakistan army to cooperate.

The Pakistan foreign office summoned Indian high commissioner in Islamabad Gautam Bambawale and registered a protest against cross-border firing killing two Pakistani soldiers.

Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said in a statement: “Our intent for a peaceful neighborhood should not be mistaken as our weakness.

“Our valiant forces are fully capable of defending the territorial integrity of the country.”

India’s bold move has given new dimension to the tactical operations.

Sources said the idea was to make a statement and send a strong message that military strikes against India will no longer go unpunished.



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Sir G according to this and pic below your troops did not cross LoC !!!!!!!!!! Is that what media saying now??
This is what our ISPR said cross border or CROSS LoC attack ,
which faced Pakistani Patrolling and got hit by our side and bodies of your solders are there because the army left them while retreating and did not pick them up because so close to LoC(In direct lane of fire).

 

[Viny]

This was a political stunt, and Indian citizens (non-Modi fans) are questioning the account themselves. The fact that the Indian Army and government has failed to come up with answers shows it was a political stunt by India to relieve some pressure off Modi. Otherwise, the evidence would have already been out there. Peace.

Its being wise to so release the info thats for public consumption and keep other details secret.
This is first but for sure not the last one, hence expecting detailed response from MOD would be lame.
Keep your eyes open and ears open and be open to informations without being bias to make filter out right details to make real sense. Else media cooked stories will serve you dog meat on name of beef.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

A Standard Operating Procedure(SOP) after an embarrassment of international order is plausible deniability. This is done to boost the country's morale. Expected Pakistani response.

When they can deny Abottabad operation by saying PAF scrambled F16 and downed Stealth USAF choppers, this deniability is nothing new.

DGMO Lt. Gen Ranbir Singh confirming this, verified by Cabinet ministers plus Prime Minister Modi . Started 12:30 am and ended around 3:30am last night . Unit that was involved was Para-Sf - the most elite special operations unit.

Pakistani journalist Wajahat Jahangir says that he feels that Pakistani Govt/Military is downplaying this incident to save embarrassment.

so you fired on our positions and martyred 2 of our jawans....and we paid back in kind

you indians are funny as shit. You need to re-visit the term "surgical strikes" and familiarize yourself w/it you lot are a confused people.

follow the current news if you want to know our response we already have 1 of your guys in our custody....

 

[sbh02]

Its being wise to so release the info thats for public consumption and keep other details secret.
This is first but for sure not the last one, hence expecting detailed response from MOD would be lame.
Keep your eyes open and ears open and be open to informations without being bias to make filter out right details to make real sense. Else media cooked stories will serve you dog meat on name of beef.

First answer the questions from your own fellow citizens before trying to convince others of your account.

 

[zebra7]

I have exhausted myself repeating myself over the years. I don't like to criticize our own people over and over again. If you think India is taking the right steps, then good for you, I envy your optimism, I continue to be underwhelmed.

Lets have the faith then !!!

 

[Nilgiri]

How did Indian army cross over 2 km into our territory when PAF and army were alert ?. If it was any other day pre - urhi I would have believed some part of your side about catching us offguard.

Countless members have talked about how low military presence your side of Kashmir has (in order to upend their claims of massive presence in India portion). So I have no idea about what the density of Pak forces are at the LoC even when they are "prepared"....especially during the night time and what the SOP is around the specific areas. This is stuff only people actually there (and eyes in the skies) would know and understand. Everything else is speculation and hearsay...even what local soldiers may or may not be forced to say for sticking to the official lines of both sides....because no one is going to give away actual operational conditions and parameters. You would be surprised to know just how many holes and gaps there were even with both forces in war ready mode in 2001 "eyeball to eyeball" as many commentators put it. Constant surveillance is really not so solid and constant as one would think....especially if one side is thinking about evasion and intrusion.

How do you for example think the terrorist infiltrators still get into India even with increased surveillance over the years...even when the situation is extremely tense after various incidents?

Even with preparation there will be vulnerable areas, no defense is utterly perfect and complete....especially when India has CARTOSAT providing real time data....and prior experience of smaller strikes across the border.

Not only did your army come 2 km inside they were there for 4 hours at 8 different locations without getting detected at the most heavily guarded border in the world? And to get back they had to use a helicopter. How did they manage that when PAF and our air defence systems were alert ?.

The helicopters stayed on our side all the time and probably kept low (so PAF, air defenses etc really isnt an issue). They were only used for the initial insertion on our side of the LoC, which I would imagine has been done numerous times before even under tense climates, so nothing would have seemed strangely out of order even if Pakistan somehow got wind of it observationally.

You have to remember just how little 2 -3 kilometres is really. These are areas that the forces on each side would know like the back of their hand (along with all the routes and weaknesses)....given the horizon available from the terrain in the area. Also the reason why it was not done in broad daylight (obviously).

As for the time portion of it, more details will have to emerge. It is not specified anywhere when the actual firefight portion of it commenced. Just that 2 AM was when the insertion started....and 4.30 AM was when the last soldier got back. I would assume a large part of the initial time was spent in the cautious traversing....exiting would be quicker since it would have been under the cover of appropriate fire (artillery and otherwise).

 

[New Resolve]

dude you dont just move mechanised infantry from bhawalpur punjab to border just for 2 soldiers, rest you are wise....

dude chill, opportunity is ours to avail or not. U are misinformed

 

[Windjammer]

so you fired on our positions and martyred 2 of our jawans....and we paid back in kind

you indians are funny as shit. You need to re-visit the term "surgical strikes" and familiarize yourself w/it you lot are a confused people.

follow the current news if you want to know our response we already have 1 of your guys in our custody....

Actually the mission would have been successful but the Donkey carrying surgical equipment got captured and now along with an Indian Monkey we also have the Donkey.
And Indians don't have the brains to question their army, how was this a surgical strike when India lost more soldiers, one captured, while Pakistan has released some footage of warming up the Indians, what do the Indians have to show for their big adventure except the usual bravado of creating terminologies for the bewildered home audience.

 

[Indian Jatt]

dude chill, opportunity is ours to avail or not. U are misinformed

Misinformed? bhawalpur is 100km from Indian border, your XXXI Corps are located their, it is definitely the first ones you have moved....

 

[New Resolve]

Misinformed? bhawalpur is 100km from Indian border, your XXXI Corps are located their, it is definitely the first ones you have moved....

There's no point and no interest considering the Sir G Kul strikes are being seen as an Own Goal.

 

[sbh02]

Misinformed? bhawalpur is 100km from Indian border, your XXXI Corps are located their, it is definitely the first ones you have moved....

(Non-Indian) credible source that this has happened?

 

[sbh02]

so why moving 60000 men?


NO

You and your war mongering media then it is then!

 

[New Resolve]

so why moving 60000 men?

As per who?, dont quote indian sources they have lost all credibility after Sir G Kul Fiasco.

 

[gslv mk3]

I am a pilot son. I have no knowledge of space vehicles. Indeed it is a great achievement of India. However, i have nothing to contribute there.

Sure

how was this a surgical strike when India lost more soldiers, one captured,

Wow, when did that happen.