Pakistan: Resolve hundreds of cases of enforced disappearances

[YeBeWarned]

wow what a dishonest and shameful person you are .... misquoting the words of others to construct your message .... your quoted article states
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When a state fails to establish order through effective governance, and also fails to provide economic justice, fifth generation warfare is foisted upon it by the deprived classes.

Pakistan is already in the throes of this phenomenon, internally generated and externally abetted. Like the resource curse of countries like Angola and Congo, Pakistan’sgeographical location is a curse. Instead of yielding economic dividends it has caused constant meddling by global powers in its internal affairs. Faced with such constant supply of war fuel, the soft state model of governance by an illiberal democracy is a sure recipe of chaos and disorder.
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plz refer to your own thread: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fifth-generation-warfare-in-pakistan.549419/

@waz , @The Eagle @Horus plz note


2013

brother, you are wasting time and energy with Solomon ..

 

[Joe Shearer]

"What about....?"
"What about....?"
"What about....?"

 

[wiseone2]

300,000 people a year are reported missing in the UK
There are currently 1000 unclaimed bodies in the UK.

Typically there are 100,000 missing people at any given time in the USA.
There are about 600,000 cases of missing people reported in the USA every year.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-go-missing-every-day-in-the-USA

Where are all these people? Why does amnesty not stick it's beak in there?

#whitelivesmattertoo

The state is not responsible for those disappearances in USA and UK

 

[Joe Shearer]

Such NGOs create fake narrative, I support Pakistan's stand here I wish we could learn a thing or two from them and impliment them in places we are having problems with.

Since you seem to like it so much, you should emigrate to Pakistan.

The state is not responsible for those disappearances in USA and UK

How wrong you are.

It is well known that the US and the UK are well-concealed military dictatorships. We befuddled ex-colonials cannot be blamed for picking up the habits of our masters and slavishly following them. In India, we got confused, and made fools of ourselves adopting the Westminster system and parliamentary democracy and other simple-minded things. Others saw what the real model was, and adopted it.

 

[wiseone2]

It is well known that the US and the UK are well-concealed military dictatorships. We befuddled ex-colonials cannot be blamed for picking up the habits of our masters and slavishly following them. In India, we got confused, and made fools of ourselves adopting the Westminster system and parliamentary democracy and other simple-minded things. Others saw what the real model was, and adopted it.

I am not going to say anything critical of the Pakistani state here. But enforced disappearances of people you do not like is a slippery slope. it is bound to be abused to settle petty scores.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I am not going to say anything critical of the Pakistani state here. But enforced disappearances of people you do not like is a slippery slope. it is bound to be abused to settle petty scores.

You, for that matter, I, don't have to. It's all being said by the sensible in Pakistan itself.

Incidentally, they are gradually improving, for one thing, because of their fiercely independent press, and their reviving judiciary. We had lurched down, ourselves, but it looks like, don't look now, all will be well, and the Indian people will help the self-correction that seems to be the most dependable feature of our democracy.

 

[wiseone2]

You, for that matter, I, don't have to. It's all being said by the sensible in Pakistan itself.

Incidentally, they are gradually improving, for one thing, because of their fiercely independent press, and their reviving judiciary. We had lurched down, ourselves, but it looks like, don't look now, all will be well, and the Indian people will help the self-correction that seems to be the most dependable feature of our democracy.

some of the folks who are in charge in pakistan are aware of where this can go

 

[Solomon2]

"Human rights organisations corner Pakistan on persecution of Christians, enforced disappearances at the U.N. in Geneva"

"Greece raises concern over human rights violation, extra judicial killings in Pakistan"

wow what a dishonest and shameful person you are .... misquoting the words of others to construct your message .... your quoted article states...plz refer to your own thread: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/fifth-generation-warfare-in-pakistan.549419/

There is no inaccuracy. Terrorism not directed against a state is included in the general's definition of fifth-generation warfare.

@waz , @The Eagle @Horus plz note
2013

And hence the kidnaping of Shahbaz Taseer in 2012 was O.K. with @WaLeEdK2, who only wanted kidnappings by terror groups to be forbidden: link.

 

[313ghazi]

The state is not responsible for those disappearances in USA and UK

The state is not responsible for these disapearances in Pakistan.
This is slander by the enemies of the state.

 

[wiseone2]

The state is not responsible for these disapearances in Pakistan.
This is slander by the enemies of the state.

I doubt other entities in pakistan have the power to make people disappear

 

[Solomon2]

I doubt other entities in pakistan have the power to make people disappear

But if @313ghazi takes these sentences as his mantra and repeats them often, he may come to believe it himself. Does anything else matter?

 

[Jugger]

The sensible people of Pakistan already know about this and are voicing their concern, but their opinions are very limited.

 

[Solomon2]

I doubt other entities in pakistan have the power to make people disappear

It's possible. I assume that once Pakistanis learned they couldn't complain to authorities about abuses they witnessed by state-supported terror outfits without risk, they also stopped complaining about abuses from any other possible terror outfits. After all, who could tell the difference?

 

[HRK]

"Human rights organisations corner Pakistan on persecution of Christians, enforced disappearances at the U.N. in Geneva"

"Greece raises concern over human rights violation, extra judicial killings in Pakistan"

There is no inaccuracy. Terrorism not directed against a state is included in the general's definition of fifth-generation warfare.

And hence the kidnaping of Shahbaz Taseer in 2012 was O.K. with @WaLeEdK2, who only wanted kidnappings by terror groups to be forbidden: link.

again twisting and manipulation of words ... to construct your biased message

As one Pakistani general puts it, the terrorists are "internally generated and externally abetted".

And yet that seems to have NOTHING to do with enforced disappearances.

while the original statement was

When a state fails to establish order through effective governance, and also fails to provide economic justice, fifth generation warfare is foisted upon it by the deprived classes.

Pakistan is already in the throes of this phenomenon, internally generated and externally abetted.

It's possible. I assume that once Pakistanis learned they couldn't complain to authorities about abuses they witnessed by state-supported terror outfits without risk, they also stopped complaining about abuses from any other possible terror outfits. After all, who could tell the difference?

talking with experience....

 

[Solomon2]

again twisting and manipulation of words ... to construct your biased message

Quit it with the negative-ratings binge, people have complained about you doing this before.