Pakistan reminds me of another great strategic state

[I.R.A]

Will he succeed in his vision?

Are you seriously suggesting that he has one?

Meanwhile the river that is Pakistan will continue to flow along it's path.

For how long? The river analogy is more like leaving it at the hands of nature's mercy.

 

[Pappa Alpha]

@I.R.A

IRA mian,

Yes, FM Ayub was a dictator. Just as FW-I, Frederick the Great were absolute monarchs and Bismarck would be a Chancellor with almost unbridled powers. But they made Prussia/Germany what it became.

Regards

The problem with that is once in a while you get absolute monarchs like Wilhelm II or Narend..Hitler!

Are you seriously suggesting that he has one?

every conscious being does I believe.

 

[I.R.A]

@I.R.A

IRA mian,

Yes, FM Ayub was a dictator. Just as FW-I, Frederick the Great were absolute monarchs and Bismarck would be a Chancellor with almost unbridled powers. But they made Prussia/Germany what it became.

Regards

Was it the military that laid foundation for Pakistan? Or was it some lawyer and his supporters?

What happened in another part of the world is none of our concern, it's not like india is a paradise to live in, why not suggest dictatorship in india? What extraordinary have you achieved? While answering please do keep in mind the size of resources at india's disposal.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Pappa Alpha

The problem with that is once in a while you get absolute monarchs like Wilhelm II

That is true. But then democracy throws up Modi, Trump, AAZ too! A risk Pakistan can consider.

Regards

 

[I.R.A]

every conscious being does I believe.

Only leaders do. And he is no leader.

 

[Pappa Alpha]

For how long? The river analogy is more like leaving it at the hands of nature's mercy.

We are all at nature's mercy until we get a leader who does fulfill his visions.

Only leaders do. And he is no leader.

He is by constitution whether you agree or not sadly.

 

[I.R.A]

We are all at nature's mercy until we get a leader who does fulfill his visions.

So we wait or get deleted?

 

[Pappa Alpha]

That is true. But then democracy throws up Modi, Trump, AAZ too! A risk Pakistan can consider.

All democracies lead to autocracy of some sort (not my thesis, a thesis of an intellectual)

 

[I.R.A]

He is by constitution whether you agree or not sadly.

So was Zardari, so was Nawaz Shareef ........... do you agree?

 

[Pappa Alpha]

So we wait or get deleted?

We wait out the tough part IMO.

So was Zardari, so was Nawaz Shareef ........... do you agree?

Yes they were corrupt leaders of our nation.

 

[I.R.A]

We wait out the tough part IMO.

Our tough part is lack of will. We don't wish to act. We have been waiting what else have we ever done.

Every institution has to operate withing its constitutional jurisdiction, when and which leader can ever force that in Pakistan?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@I.R.A

IRA mian,

Was it the military that laid foundation for Pakistan? Or was it some lawyer and his supporters?

Of course it was a lawyer and his supporters. You would think that a man who likes to describe himself as the Sole Spokesman of the Sole Spokesman of the Sole Spkokesman would know this much, wouldnt he?

it's not like india is a paradise to live in, why not suggest dictatorship in india? What extraordinary have you achieved?

Where did I say that India has achieved anything worthwhile?

I think there seems to be a misunderstanding- I dont want to suggest to Pakistanis what Pak should be- I am merely pointing out the similarities between two great strategic states.

Regards

 

[Pappa Alpha]

Our tough part is lack of will. We don't wish to act. We have been waiting what else have we ever done.

Every institution has to operate withing its constitutional jurisdiction, when and which leader can ever force that in Pakistan?

A million dollar question isn't it?

 

[I.R.A]

Yes they were corrupt leaders of our nation.

You are confusing leaders with mafia bosses, rulers, manipulators, sell outs. Pakistan doesn't deserve dictators, political dynasties and all these old incompetent politicians and their offspring.

 

[Pappa Alpha]

You are confusing leaders with mafia bosses, rulers, manipulators, sell outs. Pakistan doesn't deserve dictators, political dynasties and all these old incompetent politicians and their offspring.

Now we are just arguing semantics