Pakistan ranked 12th among 'failed states'

[SMC]

Well Ahsan, Media is always critical of govts, whether it be the one in Brazil or US or Poland or Pakistan. Media is a critic, if a thousand reports are taken of any country in the world you will find majority of them being critical. Take for eg the BRIC economies, inspite of the econmic surge they are making the press is filled with criticsm. Even when they report Indian Mittal buying out Zreclor, BBC ends the report by saying 'India still has majority of the people living in poverty' totally irrelevant but thats the case.

So dont pinpoint Media bias as a reason. Its the same with all countries.

And regarding the staff i would say its a very childish comment to make, refer to the earlier posts we have already discussed it.

Dude. The important thing here is you're talking about Pakistan and the media. Yes they're critical, but incase of Pakistan, its not just criticism, its blatant bias and lies that affects the media and in effect, results in those biased articles with propaganda and little or no truth. There are positive things happening in Pakistan as well. You never see those reported in any of the western media. Or at least nowhere as frequently as the bad things. And those 'good things' do happen in Pakistan, just so you know. It is important to remember that when you have a crap load of biased, anti-Pakistani articles and basically no articles that are reporting the good things, this list should be expected.

And as for staff, its not a childish comment, its a very valid point. When you have indians acting as 'south asian specialists', these kinds of indices are not unexpected.

 

[Bull]

And as for staff, its not a childish comment, its a very valid point. When you have indians acting as 'south asian specialists', these kinds of indices are not unexpected.

If you are a reporter for BBC or in the editorial team of CBS, would you be allowed to carry on with your 'anti india' agenda if you want? You wont.

 

[Adux]

Maybe bad things happen more often than good.

 

[foxhound]

Salaam!

In response to Bull!

The biggest country thats undermining US is China, i dont see they saying the same thing about China.


Lol..I knew my statement would cause a reaction....I'll be labelled this or that.......

I would disagree that China is the biggest country undermining the US......the Chinese card is just used by the military industrial complex and the defence budget seekers to 'cry wolf' over a perceived threat from China so that they can get a bigger defence budget....the arms lobbyist are very big and have close connections with the senate.....you see....if there is no perceived threat - then you will not get the required military funding.....China needs another 30-40 years development to cause any real concern for the US.

Realistically, China is an emerging power....economically and militarially....but has a long way to compete or be any substantial threat to the US.....the Russians are more of a menace as they have the air power/ naval power and the land power to cause any 'real' danger...they have proven military capability and have the ability for power projection.....i.e Strategic SLBM's/ICBMs/SSN's/strategic Command Control Communication and Intelligence. Russia has projected it's forces around the world and can flex it's muscle as it's economy recovers considerably.

The real threat....which the US and it's allies perceive is a resugent....UNITED MUSLIM STATES....as it should be....one UMMAH. Hence if you can look at the menace and pain they have caused to the middle east and to that extent muslim countries:.....my reasons are as follows:

GLOBAL ISLAMIC BIODATA

POPULATION
Muslim: 1.5 billion
world population: 6 billion


thus 1 in 4 people on Earth is a MUSLIM

60 sovereign states in various states of development, incorporating more than 60 languages with various backgrounds, classes, colours, styles, clothes, customs, appearances, greetings but ONE MESSAGE.

LANDMASS: 31,414,544 sp.Km

thus 1/4 of the total global surface.

RESOURCES: 50% of world raw materials.
82% of the World's oil.
60% of the total mineral resources of the world - oil, gas, gold, silver, copper, zinc, uranium, etc.
70% of the worlds rubber.
75% of the world's jute.
40% of the worlds cotton.
67% of the worlds spices.

HEALTH: 60% access to clean water
60% access to health services

LITERACY: 61% Total Literacy, Adult Males 70%, Adult Females 52%. Primary pupil to Teacher Ratio 50:1

TRADE: Total Global Export US $272 billion
Total Global Imports US $283 billion

DEBT: US $706 billion


in view of the above....my point is that the Muslim states have all these resources in their lands, but lack health, literacy and the ABILITY TO LIVE UNDER THE LAWS OF ALLAH (ISLAM).

These statistics show the potential of Islam....the potential UNIFICATION OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD IN ALL SPHERES OF LIFE.......which I believe.....will come.........despite the negativity of the non-muslim world and no matter how much they detest it......WATCH AND SEE.....I kid you not!!!


Therefore, the main threat to the US and it's allies are the muslims.....therefore they do what they are good at.....DIVIDE and CONQUER......one by one they are distroying any would be potential strong muslim state. They are the moment trying to undermine the Muslims form various routes...via the media....politically isolation...academic propaganda etc.

 

[joey]

 

[Adux]

USA v/s UMS

United Muslim state of Ummah

 

[kidwaibhai]

oh cmon there will never ever be an islamic ummah state. different countries have different national interests. ok let us think that this does happen. What will be the national language of that state, arabic i dont think so. This is only small aspect of this islamic state. although dont get em wrong i would love to have an islamic superstate. it would the most awsome things ever. Then we would be the ultimate superpower, we would kick every countries ***. but i dont see this until unless the MEDHI comes.

 

[joey]

ummah and the ideology of communism are same, even if they forms it'll break from within itself.

foxhound that data means nothing, nada zlich zip, what is the amount of IPR that so called Muslim countries hold today?

good now kidwaibai is thinking of mehdi to feel good , lol seriously I'd rather do how to improve lives than dreaming of kalki or messiah or whatever. peoples with insecure mind thinks like that.

make a change yourself, god will do jack.

 

[Adux]

Funny, If you can add all muslim countries wealth/power like that,
just add all christain/secular countries together...and see what you get...lol

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Salaam!

In response to Bull!

The biggest country thats undermining US is China, i dont see they saying the same thing about China.


Lol..I knew my statement would cause a reaction....I'll be labelled this or that.......

I would disagree that China is the biggest country undermining the US......the Chinese card is just used by the military industrial complex and the defence budget seekers to 'cry wolf' over a perceived threat from China so that they can get a bigger defence budget....the arms lobbyist are very big and have close connections with the senate.....you see....if there is no perceived threat - then you will not get the required military funding.....China needs another 30-40 years development to cause any real concern for the US.

Realistically, China is an emerging power....economically and militarially....but has a long way to compete or be any substantial threat to the US.....the Russians are more of a menace as they have the air power/ naval power and the land power to cause any 'real' danger...they have proven military capability and have the ability for power projection.....i.e Strategic SLBM's/ICBMs/SSN's/strategic Command Control Communication and Intelligence. Russia has projected it's forces around the world and can flex it's muscle as it's economy recovers considerably.

The real threat....which the US and it's allies perceive is a resugent....UNITED MUSLIM STATES....as it should be....one UMMAH. Hence if you can look at the menace and pain they have caused to the middle east and to that extent muslim countries:.....my reasons are as follows:

GLOBAL ISLAMIC BIODATA

POPULATION
Muslim: 1.5 billion
world population: 6 billion


thus 1 in 4 people on Earth is a MUSLIM

60 sovereign states in various states of development, incorporating more than 60 languages with various backgrounds, classes, colours, styles, clothes, customs, appearances, greetings but ONE MESSAGE.

LANDMASS: 31,414,544 sp.Km

thus 1/4 of the total global surface.

RESOURCES: 50% of world raw materials.
82% of the World's oil.
60% of the total mineral resources of the world - oil, gas, gold, silver, copper, zinc, uranium, etc.
70% of the worlds rubber.
75% of the world's jute.
40% of the worlds cotton.
67% of the worlds spices.

HEALTH: 60% access to clean water
60% access to health services

LITERACY: 61% Total Literacy, Adult Males 70%, Adult Females 52%. Primary pupil to Teacher Ratio 50:1

TRADE: Total Global Export US $272 billion
Total Global Imports US $283 billion

DEBT: US $706 billion


in view of the above....my point is that the Muslim states have all these resources in their lands, but lack health, literacy and the ABILITY TO LIVE UNDER THE LAWS OF ALLAH (ISLAM).

These statistics show the potential of Islam....the potential UNIFICATION OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD IN ALL SPHERES OF LIFE.......which I believe.....will come.........despite the negativity of the non-muslim world and no matter how much they detest it......WATCH AND SEE.....I kid you not!!!


Therefore, the main threat to the US and it's allies are the muslims.....therefore they do what they are good at.....DIVIDE and CONQUER......one by one they are distroying any would be potential strong muslim state. They are the moment trying to undermine the Muslims form various routes...via the media....politically isolation...academic propaganda etc.

OIC countries (57) have GDP of $3.6 trillion with population of 1.4 billion. Which mean GDP per capita income is just $2600 compared to westerner countries average of over $30.000.

 

[foxhound]

Salaam!

In response to Joey:
What looks good on paper doesnt applies universally, dont blame the devil for that.

Welcome to reality while you keep thinking about this and that 'could' happened 'if' they did and done this.

Honestly speaking your post sounds like a completely brainwashed person, who have no idea of realpolitik.[/U]


Lol.....do I really seem to be brainwashed?....I think on the contrary...it could be the other way.....possibly yourself.....my advice...'get out of the box'.....everything you read is not necessarly the ONLY way.....My argument's are....due to the real AGENDA of the US and it's allies.....they have been spending billions on undermining other regimes...because at the moment...for them...MIGHT IS RIGHT.

However, many were the superpowers of the past destroyed by a small band...the US is no exception....the failed state index is another propaganda mechanism to undermine a nation.

I will concede that despite the muslim worlds huge potential and the fact that it is a formidable force in world affairs, the muslim world still continues to suffer from a whole host of problems throughout most parts of the globe; from North and East Africa to the Middle East, Central Asia and East Asia, and even Europe. Islam is being branded as a reactionary force and is portrayed as the enemy of Western civilisation.

The western media has raised the threatening spectre of 'Islamic fundamentalism' and 'Muslim terrorism' and it's wary of resurgent movements in the muslim world. The two most prominent examples of recent days are the coined words 'fundamentalism' and 'terrorism', which have become the new words of abuse for Islam and Muslim liberation movements.

One can look at the terms that have been used over the years for Islamic resurgence. it started with 'militant Islam' then it became 'radical Islam' then 'fundamentalism' and then 'Islamism' and 'Islamic zealots' and now recently 'Islamofascists'. So pervasive have been their use that out of naivety the muslims are using the abusive words for themselves.

The west does not describe the Islamic trend as Islamic nationalism, or Muslim brotherhood, for this description would have some favourable connotations.......The American attempts to equate Islamism with terrorism are at best devious.

So successful have they been in this distortion exercise that almost everyone has taken the new currency of terrorism for liberation struggle....Demolishing unacceptable leaders, regimes and lionising the favourites through the media is a proven Western method.

lol.....my serious advice...dear JOey.....please...'get out of the box'........start seeing other prospectives.......however....it all depends.....are you willing to use your intellect rationally?.....stop drip feeding of the Western or to that effect the non muslim world tripe!

 

[foxhound]

Joey....ummah and the ideology of communism are same


Cmon...Joey....Ummah (Islam) is totally different....it has no equal.....Communism or should I say atheism is the dead beat.......it shows your total lack of understanding of Islam.....as I said before....stop feeding up from the Western/Allies tripe......get out of the box.......

 

[joey]

Your answer to me has no resemblance with the post you made in previous page, Am i talking here to a 12 year boy? i hope not, because If you were intellectual enough you would see what my point was and how **** your previous-previous post was.

I dont know what you have been trying to say, terrorism started form centuries but most was for political cause, but recent example can say better for rise in anarcism during 18th century, middle east is a sufferer of domino effect from world war 2, what Europe has seen Middle havent seen that much destruction. Middle easterns themselves are responsible that has led others to exploit them as well being a crybaby and blaming west for everything is absolutely insanity, if tomorrow Russia would have money you guys would blame Russia.

I have been saying this from many times before search on my posts a bit, since your searching for Islamic terrorism and why west calls it that i recently went in a debate on that read it in this forum please.

Your yourself clueless, your post deals with society on one hand and on other hand shows fanaticism of fetish to establish caliphate on another hand you advicate a theory like ummah that was once communism which the islamic world fought against.

Your wandering nomans land where your not even clear what is the point your trying to say or trying to make out of this topic?

Topic - Pakistan is failed state? answer - No.

 

[foxhound]

In response to Kidwaibhai!


The United States of America was perhaps the first step in realising that one continent can be ruled by one government and one ruler. The president, with great success in terms of prosperity, because they took the Islamic concept of one continent with one set of beliefs, one ruler and it has worked to an extent.

On the other hand, the United Socialist States of Russia was another United states which failed, but this was largely due to the lack of the Communist ideology to accept the concept of The Creator, and so He brought them down.

The United Arab Emirates have a successful system, which can be globally expanded to the Islamic world, so that each nation state is an emirate.

Furthermore, the European Union has one Parliament, one currency, one policy - it will work together with the US in mutual confidence to govern the world. However, the thought of the EU is based on the mere fact that these countries are on the same continent and are geographically close. However, the EU is made of many differing nations who kept their prejudices to this very day, and this is where both World Wars began. The EU is a collective of power and resources, but the policies of the nations that comprise it mean that it will have a weak base. That is unless the EU becomes part of the Islamic World.

If you look at the Islamic caliphate.....it worked then as one Ummah/Nation.....Inshallah it will be so again.....sabr ka phal mitha whota hey!

 

[joey]

Joey....ummah and the ideology of communism are same


Cmon...Joey....Ummah (Islam) is totally different....it has no equal.....Communism or should I say atheism is the dead beat.......it shows your total lack of understanding of Islam.....as I said before....stop feeding up from the Western/Allies tripe......get out of the box.......

I dont talk with kids, and I'm for serious if you dont have the conscience of debating or understanding ability between the similarity of borderless bother hood of communism with that of ummah's political , lets not go there.

The difference between ummah and communism is one advocates establishing political power with a religious doctrine another does through the doctrine of marx, the political ambition of domination of both are same and both has failed and will fail if installed through inside or outside. and history has proved it.Absolute seperation of religion and state goes against the idea of Ummah, the Ummah will try to install it and that will give rise to communal hatred. In communism you try to install capitalism inside and it will clash with free space liberty with that of centerised policy.

Dont mix ummah with Islam.

Theological interpretation cannot be labelled on ground based perception, its a falacy of mind, and a die hard attempt to use commitment on paper on society, which goes against the principles of nature.

Theoracratic structure of religions DO promote communal disturbances which has been proved throughout history even among the same religion, and there ARE certain aspects of each religion which IF promoted in hat theoracratical structure to resemble in a pluralistic society, problems in form of fundamentalism/greed for power is born.

Quoting Adux,
If wishing for Akhand Bharat is Hindutuva Xenophobia then what is wishing for the Ummah?


Ataturk was a wise man!
I'll end here.