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Pakistan: Presidential or Parliamentary System?

Which system is better for future of Pakistan?

  • Presidential System

    Votes: 15 88.2%
  • Parliamentary System

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • I do not know

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    17
Pakistan very well can run on its own.

One man.. call it president, pm, ceo or any thing, can have three ministries: Defence, justice and Foreign.

Rest of all leave to District govt. and President of dist. govt. shall be independent to make rules for governance and development of his district but cannot have armed forces.
 
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We said earlier that the foundation, the bedrock of any system is ECONOMICS, check out his little piece , tell me, why exemptions for these but none for me and you who said "buy in"m I distinctly heard some low life say "legitimacy":

Income tax exemptions granted to the president, provincial governors, chief of army staff and judges of the superior court, however, will not be withdrawn
Mate this is not economics its "legalised theft". I am reminded of a meeting I had with the daughter of a wealthy (est over 300 mill US) man. I had started a company 18 months earlier and said to her well if it does not start going into profitability over the next 6 months I was going to cut and or sell it.

She looked at me with some surprise and said but we have had a company that loses money since 1965 but we would never let it go. It dawned on me that these guys were running a bunch of loss making companies but would supplement their income by what we would simply call fraud in the UK eg loan defaulters or rigging and manipulating Pakistani currency

Like I said we need to sort a few thousand people in Pakistan out who have sense of entitlement and will do whatever they can to retain their position in Pakistan

You know with the flexibility of 'Loss Reliefs' and 'Capital Allowances' on Capital Tax that HMRC allows having a loss making subsidiary wouldn't really be such a bad thing ! I'm sure a good tax consultant could use it well !
 
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A rather interesting debate on 'Welfare State, Capitalism and Democratic Socialism' ! :

 
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I think we have to consider some form of welfare state. Most benefit for most

Friends, let people be - leave them some dignity, don't make, of a free people, serfs of the state --- but I realize that the impulse to "help" is strong -- "I'm from the govt and I'm here to help" ---- lets instead help people to help themselves, by freeing the economy from the stranglehold of monopolies and govt largesse.


Democracy is best??? What is democracy?? And of course What is not


Fake democracy
By Dr SM Taha
Published: May 31, 2012

The writer teaches public policy at the University of Karachi

Democracy, no doubt, is the best system if it is run by the best people living in the state. It is unfortunate that Pakistan’s democracy is run by the worst of its citizens. There are a few exceptions but they cannot alter the well-entrenched trends of Pakistan’s democratic culture. Let us state a few undeniable facts about Pakistan’s democracy.

First, families and clans act as custodians of voters and political parties. Second, most voters in the rural areas do not cast votes of their own free will and many are not even aware of their basic fundamental rights. Third, corruption and coercion are part and parcel of Pakistan’s electoral process. Last, but not least, politics is deemed dirty and dangerous by law-abiding, educated citizens of Pakistan.

Along with these facts, there are certain misperceptions about democracy that have purposely been inculcated in the minds of Pakistanis by politicians. These include: elections lead to the establishment of democracy, parliamentarians are true representatives of the people and voters cast their votes freely.

In addition to these misperceptions, there are clear fault lines in Pakistani society, i.e., sectarian, ethnic, tribal, and provincial. Our so-called political parties are clearly divided along these fault lines.

The above-mentioned facts, misperceptions and fault lines have produced an electoral system that creates governments incorrectly termed as democratically elected
. The political party is the fundamental institution of any democracy and is supposed to be structured democratically. However, in Pakistan, major political parties are controlled by a few influential families. The PPP claims that it is a democratic party but the change of leadership in the party happened through a will, after the demise of Benazir Bhutto. And the irony was that not a single seasoned parliamentarian like Raza Rabbani, Amin Fahim or Aitzaz Ahsan, uttered a single word against this undemocratic act.

In the rural areas, most constituencies are controlled by influential feudal families, who like seasonal birds, keep moving from one power broker group to another, according to their changing interests. The recent by-election results in DG Khan and Multan raise serious concerns for those who believe that only political awareness will change the status quo.

Another important institution in any democracy is an independent election commission, which is responsible for implementing election rules. In Pakistan, we have an election commission that is spineless when it comes to ensuring the implementation of election rules. Similarly, an independent judiciary that provides speedy justice and a bureaucracy free from political influence are also essential ingredients of a true democracy. These prerequisites seem to be absent in Pakistan.

In the remote areas of the country, people are not even aware of the existence of an election process. My visits to some coastal union councils of Thatta revealed that the people of the area had no idea about who the MPA and MNA of their constituency were.

Lastly, I believe that without elected local governments, no regime can claim to be a democratic one. All provincial governments in the country are unwilling to devolve power to the local leadership, which is the essence of a democracy.

Because of all these reasons, the track record of elected civilian governments is not at all impressive. The unpleasant fact is that the economic growth rate achieved during democratic regimes has compared poorly with the rates achieved during military regimes. I am afraid that this rotten system will continue in the future as well. Getting rid of the influential feudal families and the corrupt urban elite seems like an impossible task at the moment.
 
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BB is reported to have said "Democracy is the best revenge" -- given the governance on display by the PPP, one begins to understand what BB meant
 
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