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Pakistan orders Dutch OPV (1,900 tons, 90 m). To be built at KSEW

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I find it interesting that PN is going for OPV when that role in Pakistan is already carried out by the PMSA. Why go for an OPV, that too a different design than the 2 your sister service just inducted and is being built in your own shipyards? My suspicion is they wanted a modular design that they can build light frigates from in the future.

These will be used to patrol gwadar area or relieve PN's proper warships ships from CTF duties.
The Pakistan Maritime Security Agency
  • is a law enforcement service
  • is one of the six uniform service branch of the Paramilitary command of Pakistan.
  • is operationally tasked with conducting the maritime, military, multi-mission service unique among the Pakistan military branches having the maritime law enforcement mission (with jurisdiction in both domestic and international waters).
  • is the executive regulatory agency of the Government of Pakistan
  • operates under the Ministry of Defence (MoD) during peacetime, but it can be transferred to Pakistan Navy by the governmental orders during the time of war.
The Pakistan Coast Guards
  • is a law enforcement organization
  • is one of the six uniform services of the Paramilitary command
  • is functioning and operating under the civilian control of the Interior Ministry (MoI).
  • work under administrative control of Ministry of Interior in peace time whereas it will come under operational control of Pakistan Army in wartime situations.
  • consist of active-duty members of Pakistan Army and are commanded by one-star rank Brigadier who is headquartered in Karachi, Sindh Province of Pakistan.
  • are charged and mandated with protecting the coastal areas of Balochistan and Sindh Province while it conducts military exercises and operations relating to riverine warfare.
The Coast Guards should not be confused with the Maritime Security Agency (MSA) of the Pakistan Navy, which is by law and constitution, charged with defence of coastal areas of the country, conducting military operations to maintain maritime law enforcement in national and international waters.

The Coast Guards were first established as the Maritime Security Agency in 1971 and constituted operationally in 1972 through a Presidential Ordinance. The Parliament restored the constitutional status of the Branch after passing and promulgating the "Coast Guards Act" in 1973 and recognized as one of the six uniformed services of Paramilitary Command. Since then, it has upgraded its facilities and fleet to bolster its capabilities of littoral patrolling of the coast line.

In addition to land based troops, the Coast Guards also maintains a small fleet of patrol boats to perform its sea-borne duties, although the operations in deep water and dangerous undertaking are conducted by its counterpart Maritime Security Agency (MSA) of Pakistan Navy.

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The Navy also maintains a paramilitary division which prevents federal navy personnel from acting in a law enforcement capacity. The Maritime Security Agency (MSA) fulfils the law enforcement role in naval operations. The MSA has the capacity to conduct search and rescue operations in deep waters of Pakistan. The Agency was established after adopting the genesis at the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea in 1982. Pakistan ratified the UN Convention in 1997 but established the MSA on 1 January 1987, for enforcement of national and international laws, policies and conventions at sea.

The MSA gained its constitutional status in 1994 by the Parliament and is now placed under the command of the Navy, commanded by an officer of two-star rank, a Rear-Admiral.

The Pakistan Coast Guard serves the same purpose as the Navy but, is a separate branch from it. The Coast Guard's duties include relief efforts in the coastal areas of Pakistan, riverine rescue operations, and distribution of military rations. The Coast Guard does not perform operations in deep waters, rather such operations are performed by the MSA. However, it uses the mobility of the Pakistan Navy depending on the type of operations it conducts. The Coast Guard is under the command of the Pakistan Army and contains active-duty army members. It is commanded by a two-star rank Major-General
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Navy#Coast_Guard

PMSA: Six patrol boats which will eventually replace the ageing Barkat Class Boats of PMSA. Of these ships four will be 600 ton while two will be 1500 ton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Navy#Patrol_Craft
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mpvs-four-600-t-two-1500t-for-the-pmsa-discussions.429179/

Clearly, the pair of Damen ships would be substantially bigger than the pair of 1500 ton OPVs from China, meaning they will be going out farther and longer in the Pakistani EEZ. Their range will be 5000-6000 nmi (but their top speed slower relative to 1500 ton ships).

A tender document on the MPV programme, published by the Pakistani government's planning commission, revealed a requirement for a platform that can attain a maximum speed of 30 kt and a cruising speed of between 12-16 kt. The vessel should also have a standard range of 4,500 nmi at cruising speed, and have an endurance of 21 days at sea without replenishment. Armament to be fitted onboard includes either a 37 mm or a 30 mm gun as a primary weapon, in addition to mountings for two 12.7 mm machine guns.

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1500 ton MPV
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Look at these ships in terms of what armaments to expect on the Damen boats. Personally, I think the Pakistani Damen ships will be very similar to those for Malaysia.

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We should buy few cargo ships and install missiles on them to beat numbers, more strength and confuse enemy and bridge gap
 
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We should buy few cargo ships and install missiles on them to beat numbers, more strength and confuse enemy and bridge gap
Like these Malaysian ships, Bunga Mas Lima [5] and Bunga Mas Enam [6] but with some containerized AShMs added, say 4 containers at 4 missiles each, plus maybe 2 more fitted with pedestal mounted MANPADS?

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The Pakistan Maritime Security Agency
  • is a law enforcement service
  • is one of the six uniform service branch of the Paramilitary command of Pakistan.
  • is operationally tasked with conducting the maritime, military, multi-mission service unique among the Pakistan military branches having the maritime law enforcement mission (with jurisdiction in both domestic and international waters).
  • is the executive regulatory agency of the Government of Pakistan
  • operates under the Ministry of Defence (MoD) during peacetime, but it can be transferred to Pakistan Navy by the governmental orders during the time of war.
The Pakistan Coast Guards
  • is a law enforcement organization
  • is one of the six uniform services of the Paramilitary command
  • is functioning and operating under the civilian control of the Interior Ministry (MoI).
  • work under administrative control of Ministry of Interior in peace time whereas it will come under operational control of Pakistan Army in wartime situations.
  • consist of active-duty members of Pakistan Army and are commanded by one-star rank Brigadier who is headquartered in Karachi, Sindh Province of Pakistan.
  • are charged and mandated with protecting the coastal areas of Balochistan and Sindh Province while it conducts military exercises and operations relating to riverine warfare.
The Coast Guards should not be confused with the Maritime Security Agency (MSA) of the Pakistan Navy, which is by law and constitution, charged with defence of coastal areas of the country, conducting military operations to maintain maritime law enforcement in national and international waters.

The Coast Guards were first established as the Maritime Security Agency in 1971 and constituted operationally in 1972 through a Presidential Ordinance. The Parliament restored the constitutional status of the Branch after passing and promulgating the "Coast Guards Act" in 1973 and recognized as one of the six uniformed services of Paramilitary Command. Since then, it has upgraded its facilities and fleet to bolster its capabilities of littoral patrolling of the coast line.

In addition to land based troops, the Coast Guards also maintains a small fleet of patrol boats to perform its sea-borne duties, although the operations in deep water and dangerous undertaking are conducted by its counterpart Maritime Security Agency (MSA) of Pakistan Navy.

____________________

The Navy also maintains a paramilitary division which prevents federal navy personnel from acting in a law enforcement capacity. The Maritime Security Agency (MSA) fulfils the law enforcement role in naval operations. The MSA has the capacity to conduct search and rescue operations in deep waters of Pakistan.[84] The Agency was established after adopting the genesis at the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea in 1982.[84] Pakistan ratified the UN Convention in 1997 but established the MSA on 1 January 1987, for enforcement of national and international laws, policies and conventions at sea.[84]

The MSA gained its constitutional status in 1994 by the Parliament and is now placed under the command of the Navy, commanded by an officer of two-star rank, a Rear-Admiral.

The Pakistan Coast Guard serves the same purpose as the Navy but, is a separate branch from it.[85] The Coast Guard's duties include relief efforts in the coastal areas of Pakistan, riverine rescue operations, and distribution of military rations.[85] The Coast Guard does not perform operations in deep waters, rather such operations are performed by the MSA.[85] However, it uses the mobility of the Pakistan Navy depending on the type of operations it conducts. The Coast Guard is under the command of the Pakistan Army and contains active-duty army members. It is commanded by a two-star rank Major-General

Clearly, the pair of Damen ships would be substantially bigger than the pair of 1500 ton OPVs from China, meaning they will be going out farther and longer in the Pakistani EEZ. Their range will be 5000-6000 nmi (but their top speed slower relative to 1500 ton ships).

A tender document on the MPV programme, published by the Pakistani government's planning commission, revealed a requirement for a platform that can attain a maximum speed of 30 kt and a cruising speed of between 12-16 kt. The vessel should also have a standard range of 4,500 nmi at cruising speed, and have an endurance of 21 days at sea without replenishment. Armament to be fitted onboard includes either a 37 mm or a 30 mm gun as a primary weapon, in addition to mountings for two 12.7 mm machine guns.


1500 ton MPV

Look at these ships in terms of what armaments to expect on the Damen boats. Personally, I think the Pakistani Damen ships will be very similar to those for Malaysia.
Informative and nicely put together post, thank you.
 
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In sha ALLAH

Any update on the initialization and completion of 4 ada class corvettes?
The final deal is not even signed yet that would be signed soon. It was MOU which was signed during IDEF 2017
 
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@Penguin Did Damen ever propose a multi-mission frigate based on the Holland-class OPV? I understand the price of such a ship would be much higher than the apparent $157.78 m per ship of the OPV, probably ~$400 m, but its size and displacement sits between the SIGMA corvettes and De Zeven Provinciën-class. I'm interested in the idea because there might be a cost-savings opportunity by re-using most of the Holland-class' hull design.

On second thought, I imagine Damen would prefer pitching the Crossover series.

http://products.damen.com/en/ranges/crossover/crossover-115s
 
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The final deal is not even signed yet that would be signed soon. It was MOU which was signed during IDEF 2017

It was said that after budget for fiscal year 2017-18 is announced than the deal will be signed immediately. I have heard that within 2 years all 4 corvettes will join Pakistan Navy but I don't know whether its trust able or not.
 
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@Penguin Did Damen ever propose a multi-mission frigate based on the Holland-class OPV? I understand the price of such a ship would be much higher than the apparent $157.78 m per ship of the OPV, probably ~$400 m, but its size and displacement sits between the SIGMA corvettes and De Zeven Provinciën-class. I'm interested in the idea because there might be a cost-savings opportunity by re-using most of the Holland-class' hull design.

On second thought, I imagine Damen would prefer pitching the Crossover series.

http://products.damen.com/en/ranges/crossover/crossover-115s

No, they didn't. It would not only defeat the purpose of having the Holland class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland-class_offshore_patrol_vessel) to begin with (as compared to the M-frigates that they 'replaced': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Doorman-class_frigate) but also because the design focus on patrol has lead to the use of different materials e.g. a cheaper (though thicker and ballistically more protective) grade of steel (relative to M-frigate and, I would think, Sigma range) and an all diesel propulsion plant that allows a top speed to low for use in normal navy roles e.g. ASW escort (you can try and image practising 'sprint and drift' tactics with a top speed of only 22kn, given that e.g. our Walrus submarines can do 20kn submerged, which is pretty representative for a conventional sub). Note also that the sensor fit does not allow for (I)CWI for guidance of semi-active radar homing (SARH) missiles such as Aspide, Sea Sparrow or ESSM. So, you're not automatically there just by adding weapon systems (alhough IRH or ARH missiles could easily be supported).

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Displacementwise, the Holland OPVs are in between the smaller, newer M-frigate and larger older S-frigate.

I seem to recall an image of a Royal Schelde design, which was basically a more stealthy version of either M-frigate or S-frigate. But that was decades ago. And probably just a design study.
 
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No, they didn't. It would not only defeat the purpose of having the Holland class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland-class_offshore_patrol_vessel) to begin with (as compared to the M-frigates that they 'replaced': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Doorman-class_frigate) but also because the design focus on patrol has lead to the use of different materials e.g. a cheaper (though thicker and ballistically more protective) grade of steel (relative to M-frigate and, I would think, Sigma range) and an all diesel propulsion plant that allows a top speed to low for use in normal navy roles e.g. ASW escort (you can try and image practising 'sprint and drift' tactics with a top speed of only 22kn, given that e.g. our Walrus submarines can do 20kn submerged, which is pretty representative for a conventional sub). Note also that the sensor fit does not allow for (I)CWI for guidance of semi-active radar homing (SARH) missiles such as Aspide, Sea Sparrow or ESSM. So, you're not automatically there just by adding weapon systems (alhough IRH or ARH missiles could easily be supported).

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I agree. It seems that the Crossover 115 Security (4,500 tons) is being positioned as that in-between design, though it has a few characteristics of a Landing Platform Dock (LPD). This would be an interesting option as a command ship for a navy with a light frigate/corvette fleet.
 
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