It's people like you and your mentality that's caused a gap in the U.S. , Pakistan's relationship. Instead of people like you actually trying to do the hard work to grow your nation to where it can be a rich, independent sovereign state, you guys will shift the blame for a total lack of hard work and care for your country to setting unreal and beggar like expectation as if you are the 51st U.S state!!!! The U.S isn't even giving the Europeans the F-22, what's so special about Pakistan????
Grow your country, pay taxes, elect leaders who actually work instead of talking and accusing others like lazy people. Pakistan can't afford the laziness she's experienced by her nation, politicians and the military for the past 6+ decades. If Pakistan had the economy like Turkey or Malaysia, she can pay cash for F-16's block 60, or be a partner in the JSF, like Turkey is.
When you don't have the buying power, and you ask for foreign aid, special financing and all, you can be rest assured the other party will make sure their interests are protected. It's no different than going to a bank in Pakistan and getting a commercial loan out. The bank will make you sign on your property to make sure their interests are protected!!!
@MastanKhan : do you want to address the above post I responded to? It's time the Pakistanis show some positive attitude towards the U.S., for a better future relationship. Perception is reality and that should be changed!!
8 new first, more later, hopefully on cash deal, to be paid when deliveries start. Plus may be a couple of squadrons of used, low flying hours jets too. Things will start to mature up in the next few months.
Hi,
Thank you very much---. The problem is again of that of a weak leadership----. Pakistanis need to understand that nothing comes cheap----relationships need to be managed and maintained thru real hard work and perseverance.
It is not the fault of the U S A that Pakistan gets blamed for everything---it is the faut of the Pakistanis that they don't talk back in the same manner---.
If the U S puts the fault on Pakistan---then Pakistan also has 20 things to throw back at the U S-----. Pakistanis just don't knw how to talk back at the U S----they can do it in a pleasant manner and rip a hole----but they are clueless----.
Pakistani politicians are muts----. Between Nawaz and Zardari---there is not a single person with a backbone---. Backbone does not mean that you start t butt heads----but means that you lay your points across forcefuly---and if it happens the second time---go on the U S media forums----.
If the U S general after having a meeting with Gen Kiyani in spai comes to the U S and starts bashing pak military suddenly----then Gen Kiyani is duty bound to shout Back at the U S Gen thru the same media----and just does not keep his mouth shut and act mad.
Pakistanis need to learn to get out of stupid mindset----.
If Pakistan talks back----what is the U S going to do that it is not already doing---. It is going to do nothing more----.
So---to blame the U S for all our miseries is incorrect---you just do not know how to deal with them.
Even your glorious Benazir Bhutto could not do anything to manipulate the americans.
In old cultures----there were warriors and then there were merchants / farmers---and both stuck to their jobs-----like in japan---china----Russia---Europe----Hindustan----soldiers would bring war---merchants / farmers would sell, buy grow produce and they could also do bargaining.
But the americans have changed everything----americans are merchant / soldiers at the same time----. That is a very unique phenomenon----.
I repeat it again as I have done it a hundred time---. Inn 1991---I am working in Beverly Hills----I have fairly rich Jewish client----we were talking---he says to say---"---- do you really think that the americans love us----absolutely not----we make a sales pitch to them every moment----" ---that sales pitch is made to the govt on one side---and to the public on the other side.
The problem here is with the Pakistanis---in their learning abilities---ask them to steal funds---steal property---bribes---make cheap product---mix bad product in the good product and while reciting the name of Allah---they will all do this in a heart beat without taking a burp----but ask them to learn to deal with the americans---and they get a heart attack----.
So---when I made my first car deal in 1989---and I think like a profit of $5000---it was to an American indian---my Boss says---" don't strut around---you are not a salesman yet---Do it to a white guy and then I will acknowledge you "----.
All this bit-ching and moaning I hear from the Pakistanis---they simply do not know how to talk to the whitey----.
Sell the sizzle not the steak----. Sell them on the idea that why you are indispensable----sell them on your importance---sell them on your history together----and you cannot stop making that pitch---it is done 24/7----if you like it or not.
Which is superior the Block 60 or the Gripen.
Hi,
How are you sir? Our BLK 3 JF 17 is gong to be superior than the Grippen NG with the " total overall " package----which means the Aesa and other electronics package---AS, AA and AShM---smart weapons----day/night all weather capabilities.
There is no other singe engine aircraft integrated with all three---BLK 60 would be at least a couple of levels above and ahead of the Grippen NG.
