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Pakistan Opposes Unilateral U.S. Missile Strikes in Tribal Area

By James Rupert

April 4 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan's government will press the U.S. to stop firing missiles without approval at suspected al- Qaeda militants in its territory, foreign policy specialists in the new ruling coalition said.

Since 2002, President Pervez Musharraf has let the U.S. shoot missiles from its Predator pilotless airplanes into Pakistan's ethnic Pashtun tribal region, an area bordering Afghanistan that U.S. officials say is a haven for al-Qaeda.

The new government faces public pressure to step back from cooperating with the U.S. war on terrorism. Missile attacks sparked countrywide demonstrations in 2006 after civilians were killed in strikes.

If the U.S. insists the Predator missions are ``absolutely necessary, then a new framework will have to be put into place permitting this routine under carefully defined conditions,'' said Asif Ahmed Ali, a former foreign minister and member of the Pakistan Peoples Party, which heads the governing coalition.

The other main party, the Pakistan Muslim League of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, is ``opposed to the involvement of any foreign forces in Pakistan,'' said Muhammad Mehdi, a party foreign relations official. ``The American missiles will have to stop, 100 percent.''

Foreign Affairs

The Peoples Party, which stresses it will continue overall cooperation with the U.S., will probably prevail over Sharif's harder line, as it holds the key ministries of foreign affairs, defense and internal affairs in the new Cabinet.

``From the American viewpoint, the Predator is the only game in town for us to have even a remote chance'' to capture or kill al-Qaeda leaders Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, said Michael Scheuer, a former Central Intelligence Agency official who hunted bin Laden for eight years.

``I would think the program is so important'' that the U.S. government ``will probably ante up something to keep it going,'' Scheuer said.

The Predator operation is one of several counterterrorist policies being re-negotiated by the Bush administration and the civilian government that is displacing Musharraf, said Kamran Bokhari, director of Middle East analysis for Strategic Forecasting, Inc., a Texas-based political analysis company.

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CIA Director Michael Hayden declared March 30 that the Pakistani border area presents a danger to the U.S., a signal to ``the new government that, look, the Predator strikes are a key U.S. interest,'' Bokhari said.

Hayden's statement, on NBC's Meet the Press, ``was part of the posturing'' that is ``setting up the parameters for negotiations,'' Bokhari said in an interview. After years in which the U.S. arranged its relationship with Pakistan at ``the one-stop shop that Musharraf ran,'' this is ``a fluid, evolving modus vivendi,'' he said.

The government is making a ``detailed evaluation'' of Pakistan's counterterrorism policies, the office of Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gillani said this week after the army chief, Lieutenant General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, briefed the coalition's leaders on security.

``Kayani and the army are supporting the government'' in its demands for more control in Pakistani-U.S. cooperation against terrorism, Bokhari said. The army fears another U.S. attack that kills Pakistanis may ignite new protests that the army might then be called on to suppress, he said.

The CIA flies the Predators from two Pakistani military bases and independently selects and attacks al-Qaeda targets, the Washington Post reported March 27, citing unidentified U.S. officials. The agency increased its attacks in recent months out of concern the incoming civilian government would ban them, the newspaper said.

The 27-foot- (8-meter-) long Predator plane is controlled by satellite. After al-Qaeda's Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S., the CIA armed Predators with Hellfire anti-tank missiles.

Official figures on how many missiles have been fired into Pakistan are not released. The government bars overseas visitors and restricts journalists and independent observers from entering the tribal zone, called the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

On Dec. 1, 2005, missiles from a Predator killed Abu Hamza Rabia, an Egyptian militant who was al-Qaeda's operational commander, according to U.S. officials cited at the time by news organizations.

In the latest killing of a prominent al-Qaeda commander, a missile slammed into a home in Pakistan's North Waziristan district on Jan. 29, killing Abu Laith Al-Libi, a Libyan.

Other strikes have triggered protests in the tribal region and Pakistani cities after civilians were killed. On Jan. 13, 2006, Predators fired missiles into the village of Damadola in a strike aimed at killing al-Qaeda No. 2 Zawahiri.

Then Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz complained his government had received no warning from the U.S. of the attack, which killed as many as 18 civilians and triggered countrywide anti-U.S. protests. Zawahiri soon after released a videotape, taunting the U.S. over the failed attempt to kill him.
 
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They can and wont do a thing about these missiles.
Just making fool of themselves and 160 million people..
its depressing :(
 
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I don't think the majority of Pakistanis are happy about the CIA having the ability as well as the permission to press a button and blow up any house anywhere in Pakistan. I mean I don't like that idea myself, where does it start and where does it end, this crazy story? Right now it is houses in FATA but years from now it could be random houses in Quetta, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, villages anywhere. So will anyone in pakistan be safe from raving homicidal lunatics sitting in Langley and firing red buttons as they are screaming with glee?

Why can't these people be arrested and tried instead? Has the pak army become so helpless that it cannot even manage to arrest people without getting killed and has to sit back and watch the CIA fire missiles at houses defended by simple artillery? What amazes me is that so many people actually support this, thinking it is good for the state of Pakistan and the safety of it's people.
 
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I don't think Gen Musharraf ever "approved" the US' unilateral strikes. If I'm not mistaken he was vociferously against them. The bottom line is that the US would like to minimize the involvement of the local forces as much as possible when going after certain targets because the intelligence tends to get compromised. The CIA and the USAF hence carry out unilateral strikes either with Predators or strike fighters working off Predator feeds. I'm fairly certain they will not stop these types of operations in the foreseeable future regardless of how the Pakistani government or people feel about it.
 
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That makes no sense, Musharraf was tossing up dozens of people for bounty money from day one and bragging about it in his book. I believe it was people in the US press who first brought to light the fact that CIA predator drones were firing missiles after flying from Pakistani bases. This means the pak military was censoring information about predator attacks within pakistan with full pakistani permission at the top levels. And I doubt Musharraf would have given permission for the creation of these bases in Pakistan if he was against unilateral strikes. My feeling is Musharaff's govt just decided to bend over backwards to accomodate the US because it didn't have the backbone to act with any dignity or courage. That is changing now, and I think the US knows it is going to have the predator operating with a lot less impunity once the new govt digs in and establishes itself.


If the U.S. insists the Predator missions are ``absolutely necessary, then a new framework will have to be put into place permitting this routine under carefully defined conditions,'' said Asif Ahmed Ali, a former foreign minister and member of the Pakistan Peoples Party, which heads the governing coalition.

The other main party, the Pakistan Muslim League of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, is ``opposed to the involvement of any foreign forces in Pakistan,'' said Muhammad Mehdi, a party foreign relations official. ``The American missiles will have to stop, 100 percent.''
 
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They can and wont do a thing about these missiles.
Just making fool of themselves and 160 million people..
its depressing :(

Dear Shoaib, Presidend Musharraf wrote in his book in context to post 9/11 when Americans threatened Pakistan and Indians offered all possible help.

I made a dispassionate, military-style analysis of our options, weighing the pros and cons. Emotion is all very well in drawing rooms, newspaper editorials, and movies, but it cannot be relied on for decisions like
this. Underlying any leader's analysis has to be a keen awareness that on his decision hangs the fate of millions of people and the future of his country. It is at times like these that the leader is confronted by his acute loneliness. He may listen to any amount of advice he chooses, but at the end of the day the decision has to be his alone. He realizes then that the buck really stops with him—this is no facile cliché.
My decision was based on the well-being of my people and the best interests of my country—Pakistan always comes first. I war-gamed the United States as an adversary. There would be a violent and angry reaction if we didn't support the United States. Thus the question was: if we do not join them, can we confront them and withstand the onslaught? The answer was no, we could not, on three counts.
First was our military weakness as compared with the strength of the United States. Our military forces would be destroyed.
Second was our economic weakness. We had no oil, and we did not have the capacity to sustain our economy in the face of an attack by the United States.
Third, and worst of all, was our social weakness. We lack the homogeneity to galvanize the entire nation into an active confrontation. We could not endure a military confrontation with the United States from any point of view.
I also analyzed our national interest. First, India had already tried to step in by offering its bases to the United States. If we did not join the United States, it would accept India's offer. What would happen then?
Bottom line is we as a nation lack the unity required for any confrontation.
 
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FO refuses to comment on Bajaur attack

Updated at: 1825 PST, Thursday, May 15, 2008
ISLAMABAD: Spokesman Foreign Office Thursday said he was not in a position to shed light on yesterday’s Bajaur attack, as investigations into the incident is underway.

At his weekly briefing, the Spokesman Muhammad Sadiq said the investigation into the Bajaur incident is on in which it is also being ascertained whether it was an attack with missile, rocket or bomb.

About the series of bomb blasts in Jaipur city of India, he said Pakistan had always condemned such dastardly acts of terrorism.

He said Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani would visit Egypt from May 17 to 20 on the invitation of Egyptian Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif to attend the World Economic Forum on Middle East.

"Besides addressing special session entitled 'Global leader in the spotlight' Prime Minister Gilani is expected to meet President Bush on the sidelines of the meeting," said the Foreign Office spokesman

The spokesman said Prime Minister Gilani is also expected to meet other leaders on the sidelines of the meeting including Egyptian Prime Minister Ahmed Mubarak, Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Egyptian Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif and Prime Minister of Palestinian Authority Salam Fayyad.

The Prime Minister will return on May 20, the spokesman said.

Regarding Indo-Pak Composite dialogue, he said the fourth round of talks will be held in Islamabad on May 21.

The talks will focus on 8-point agenda including peace and security, Jammu Kashmir, Siachin, Sir Creek, Wular Barage, terrorism and drug trafficking, economic cooperation and promotion of cordial relationships.

In connection with the recovery of the Pakistani ambassador Tariq Azizuddin who was abducted in Balochistan, Muhammad Sadiq said the former is safe and the government of Pakistan will take all possible steps for his release.
 
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We can understand why the FO refused to comment on such incident. Heck we cannot even free our abducted ambassador, how pathetic is that, what the hell are we going to do about such strikes, the answer is absoulte nothing. They have been going in the past and i dare say with the consent of the previous GOP and it will continue to happen with the consent of the current GOP.
 
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can anyone sence what will all this lead to in the near future ?
I have the rit to make a guess...
Wel I think This Drama will keep on until the US gets full controll in Tribal areas and then after that they will say some of the millitants are hiding in Peshawar Queta or Abootabad. Will they sude the same strategy there also ....wake up people ..... Once the tribal areas fall into the hands of US or NATO , they will go for the bigger ones . Let Me just Inform you that Heavy Rebuild Factory that is the WAH ORDANANCE FACTORY and Aq-Khanl aboratories are not so far away from tribal Areas once the US is sitting there.
Eventually Pakistani Key Defence assets will be neutralized..
can anyone make another guess that where this war is taking us .....
 
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If the FO of a democratically elected govt of Pakistan refuses to comment on Bajaur attack, then why chastise Musharraf for his actions?

Maybe, one does not realise the ground reality that grips the Pakistan govt, be it of Musharraf or democratically elected.
 
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can anyone sence what will all this lead to in the near future ?
I have the rit to make a guess...
Wel I think This Drama will keep on until the US gets full controll in Tribal areas and then after that they will say some of the millitants are hiding in Peshawar Queta or Abootabad. Will they sude the same strategy there also ....wake up people .....

This is exactly what I have been warning about myself. Except that the US/CIA will try to get permission to fire missiles at anyone in the whole of pakistan before FATA comes under any kind of control by anyone!
 
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Looks like the new government is working hard to stop this disgrace. Even Bush is going to be told this has to stop.



Protest against missile attack on Damadola



By Baqir Sajjad Syed​


ISLAMABAD, May 16: Pakistan on Friday lodged a protest with coalition forces in Afghanistan against the recent missile attack on Damadola in Bajaur Agency in which at least 10 people were killed.

“Pakistan has activated the tripartite commission comprising senior military officers and diplomatic representatives from Isaf, Afghanistan and Pakistan on the attack,” a diplomatic source told Dawn.


The tripartite commission is the agreed mechanism for addressing such complaints and it meets whenever required.

Diplomatic sources said that Pakistan would also be taking up the issue bilaterally with the United States.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani would speak to President Bush on the attack when he meets him on Sunday in Sharm El-Sheikh on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum on Middle East.

Pakistan has time and again emphasised that military action on its side of the border with Afghanistan is the exclusive responsibility of its forces.

Inter-Services Public Relations director-general Maj-Gen Ather Abbas confirmed that the protest was lodged after it was established that the Wednesday missile attack had been carried out by a US drone.

The drone attack was the first by the US since the new government took office six weeks ago.

It comes at a time when the government is trying to negotiate a truce with militants in the restive tribal areas.

The PPP government has been trying to convince the US that strikes on its territory could be counter-productive and there were indications that the Americans had accepted the Pakistani viewpoint and agreed to stop drone attacks.

Under the previous government such strikes by predator drones armed with Hellfire missiles were never openly acknowledged and no protests were lodged.

There were at least three strikes carried out by US drones in the tribal areas before the PPP-led government took office and announced the new counter-terrorism policy that laid greater emphasis on dialogue.

Protest against missile attack on Damadola -DAWN - Top Stories; May 17, 2008
 
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The people in power right now (The new elected govt of Zardari) is the other face of the same coin (old Musharraf govt). They will also continue to sell Pakistan as when US want them to.
I think he is going to sink Pakistan sooner then the last govt by all means & he has demonstrated the same by breaking the stong alliance by walking on Musharraf appeasing policies due to NRO fear n may be more reasons.
 
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The strikes will not stop, US will continue to strike whenever it deems fit. And i highly doubt that these strikes are not into the knowledge of the GOP, its just that hulla huppa will keep the people satisfied that look the government has lodged strong protest with the US over this missile strike and asked US to stop such border violations. This has been happening in the previous govenment and this will continue to happen with the current regime.
 
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NWFP Chief minister Hoti has come out with an extremely strong condemnation and has also stated that this is part of a conspiracy to harm the nation state of Pakistan. Looks more and more like the issue is going to go somewhere and will have a happy ending.


Hoti condemns missile strike in Bajaur PESHAWAR, May 17 (APP): NWFP Chief Minister Ameer Haider Khan Hoti has strongly condemned the missile attack allegedly carried out by a US drone in Bajaur Agency, saying it was an attack on the sovereignty of the country. “Pakhtun is a peaceful nation who believes in resolving the disputes through traditional jirga system. Use of force had just invited destructions in which thousands of people were either killed or displaced,” Hoti said in a statement on Saturday. “We have been deliberately engaged in the bloody war and we can no longer afford it,” he added. The Chief Minister said that they were independent in decision making and resolving the issues through talks and negotiations. Hoti said such attacks on the Pakhtun soil were highly condemnable and a conspiracy to derail the peace process being initiated by the provincial government. “Such tactics could not budge the provincial government from its stance of negotiation for peace in the troubled regions of the province and its adjacent tribal belt,” he said. (Posted @ 20:14 PST)

- DAWN - Latest Stories; May 17, 2008


As I added in another thread on the same topic President Bush is going to be confronted in a few days by Gilani regarding this very issue. The new government is placing tremendous pressure on the US to stop all this.
 
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