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Pakistan: No option but to hit back at India & its Afghan proxy
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Dr. Muhammad Ali Ehsan |

Rule one on the page of the book of war is: do not march on Moscow. This was said by Field Marshal Montgomery (House of Lords, May 1962). However, he didn’t talk about rule two, which is: ‘never make war with Afghans’. But what if the Afghans themselves want to make war? And if they draw the sword should we return ours to the scabbard? And if now we have an insult to avenge should we become avengers and not the professional soldiers that we are?

What is Afghanistan up to and how should Pakistan respond to an Afghanistan which is getting more and more Indianized in its speech and act?

If India was not playing the role of a spoiler would we ever have an Afghanistan that would duck and dodge the Pakistani offers of dialogue and instead respond by carrying out unprovoked firing at Pakistani troops guarding a census team (5th May 2017)? This latest Afghan firing incident demonstrates that the Afghan guns have also started speaking the Indian language of murdering the innocent civilians that live across the border divide. If their guns now speak Indian language what about the mindset and mentality of the Afghan generals and their military officers that get training exposures in the Indian military academies and training schools?

Read more: Will Pakistanis & Afghans be able to see through the Indian great game?

Days before this unnecessary firing incident in Killi Luqman and Killi Jahangir villages of border District of Chaman (in which 10 innocent people were killed and over 40 injured) Pakistan had made some serious efforts to warm up the Pak-Afghan relations. First a high-level military delegation led by CGS Lt Gen Bilal Akbar visited Kabul and later the DG ISI Lt Gen Naveed Mukhtar also visited the country. These were high profile visits considering the unquestionable role that Pakistan military and its intelligence agency are likely to play in determining what shape and course our future relations with Afghanistan should take? Yet the Afghan President who was invited to visit Pakistan refused to visit and now this firing incident. What is Afghanistan up to and how should Pakistan respond to an Afghanistan which is getting more and more Indianized in its speech and act?

Does India want to squeeze Pakistan by propelling Afghanistan?
One cowardly retaliatory action that the Indians have already carried out is the abduction of Retired Lieutenant Colonel Habib of Pakistan army. Picked up from Nepal airport and driven to India, the abduction looks like a response act to the arrest of Indian spy Kulbhushan Jhadav.

The Indian guided Afghan motive is clear unless green-signaled by India, ‘rapprochement must always stay away and beyond Pakistan’s reach’. The now not so veiled Indian-Afghan dual policy of building pressure on Pakistan calls for creating a “sandwich effect” in which no major wars of conquests but limited and small scale proxies and military actions (like the recent one in Chamman) should be carried out with a view to damage and hurt the pride and prestige of Pakistan’s military. The paradigm is there at the Eastern front for Afghans to emulate. The front (Pakistan shares a 3,323 km boundary with India including 749 km LOC) where the bellicose Indian army continues to threaten Pakistan with a likelihood of retaliatory military actions and surgical strikes. The latest comes from their military chief.

Read more: Af-Pak border heating up: Who is to be blamed?

Speaking after the recent killing of two Indian soldiers on the Indian side of the border (for which India accuses Pakistan Army and for which it has no proofs) its military chief, General Bipin Rawat, said, “When this kind of action takes place, we also carry out retaliatory action… We do not talk about future plans beforehand. We share details after execution of the plan.”

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Pakistan: No option but to hit back at India & its Afghan proxy
 
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Pakistan: No option but to hit back at India & its Afghan proxy
Global Village Space |


Dr. Muhammad Ali Ehsan |

Rule one on the page of the book of war is: do not march on Moscow. This was said by Field Marshal Montgomery (House of Lords, May 1962). However, he didn’t talk about rule two, which is: ‘never make war with Afghans’. But what if the Afghans themselves want to make war? And if they draw the sword should we return ours to the scabbard? And if now we have an insult to avenge should we become avengers and not the professional soldiers that we are?

What is Afghanistan up to and how should Pakistan respond to an Afghanistan which is getting more and more Indianized in its speech and act?

If India was not playing the role of a spoiler would we ever have an Afghanistan that would duck and dodge the Pakistani offers of dialogue and instead respond by carrying out unprovoked firing at Pakistani troops guarding a census team (5th May 2017)? This latest Afghan firing incident demonstrates that the Afghan guns have also started speaking the Indian language of murdering the innocent civilians that live across the border divide. If their guns now speak Indian language what about the mindset and mentality of the Afghan generals and their military officers that get training exposures in the Indian military academies and training schools?

Read more: Will Pakistanis & Afghans be able to see through the Indian great game?

Days before this unnecessary firing incident in Killi Luqman and Killi Jahangir villages of border District of Chaman (in which 10 innocent people were killed and over 40 injured) Pakistan had made some serious efforts to warm up the Pak-Afghan relations. First a high-level military delegation led by CGS Lt Gen Bilal Akbar visited Kabul and later the DG ISI Lt Gen Naveed Mukhtar also visited the country. These were high profile visits considering the unquestionable role that Pakistan military and its intelligence agency are likely to play in determining what shape and course our future relations with Afghanistan should take? Yet the Afghan President who was invited to visit Pakistan refused to visit and now this firing incident. What is Afghanistan up to and how should Pakistan respond to an Afghanistan which is getting more and more Indianized in its speech and act?

Does India want to squeeze Pakistan by propelling Afghanistan?
One cowardly retaliatory action that the Indians have already carried out is the abduction of Retired Lieutenant Colonel Habib of Pakistan army. Picked up from Nepal airport and driven to India, the abduction looks like a response act to the arrest of Indian spy Kulbhushan Jhadav.

The Indian guided Afghan motive is clear unless green-signaled by India, ‘rapprochement must always stay away and beyond Pakistan’s reach’. The now not so veiled Indian-Afghan dual policy of building pressure on Pakistan calls for creating a “sandwich effect” in which no major wars of conquests but limited and small scale proxies and military actions (like the recent one in Chamman) should be carried out with a view to damage and hurt the pride and prestige of Pakistan’s military. The paradigm is there at the Eastern front for Afghans to emulate. The front (Pakistan shares a 3,323 km boundary with India including 749 km LOC) where the bellicose Indian army continues to threaten Pakistan with a likelihood of retaliatory military actions and surgical strikes. The latest comes from their military chief.

Read more: Af-Pak border heating up: Who is to be blamed?

Speaking after the recent killing of two Indian soldiers on the Indian side of the border (for which India accuses Pakistan Army and for which it has no proofs) its military chief, General Bipin Rawat, said, “When this kind of action takes place, we also carry out retaliatory action… We do not talk about future plans beforehand. We share details after execution of the plan.”

Read full article:

Pakistan: No option but to hit back at India & its Afghan proxy

It's simple: Eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, no matter who it is. Enough is enough. Pakistan need not be tolerant anymore, especially, when cowardly neighbours continue unabatedly acts of violence and harrassment. May ALLAH AwJ protect Pakistan, ãmii. :pakistan:
 
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You are doing the 'No option' policy against India all your existence. Whats the new element in your arsenal you plan to bring into play this time. OR are these just empty threats again.
 
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You are doing the 'No option' policy against India all your existence. Whats the new element in your arsenal you plan to bring into play this time. OR are these just empty threats again.

Why is your establishment, military and populous always so freaked out about us?
 
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Why is your establishment, military and populous always so freaked out about us?

I asked first :)
Is this realisation about 'no option but to hit back at india' is a relatively new phenomena. If so, what could be the tactical measures to execute this plan on ground. By tactical measures/response, of course i mean different from the currently employed ones.
Thanks
 
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A threat of a major push and most of the folks won't show up at the job the next morning!!!!
 
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Not sure what exactly Pakistan is waiting for?!
According to public opinion on PDF, Pakistan can give a "befitting reply" to India at will.

According to @BHarwana India does not have the nuclear bomb, no second strike capability and our missiles are junk.
According to @Windjammer Indian army is suffering from mutiny and lack of discipline in its ranks (based on the thread from today)

On top of that the prevailing sentiment is that Kashmir has already been lost and that Indian army will have to vacate Kashmir shortly. To add to this, the muslim mistreatment in India on issues like beef etc compound the problem.

Not to mention the supa powa China got Pakistan's back on all fronts!

So this should be the right time to cut india down to size, no? Don't write articles, take action Pakistan!
 
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Pakistan: No option but to hit back at India & its Afghan proxy
Global Village Space |


Dr. Muhammad Ali Ehsan |

Rule one on the page of the book of war is: do not march on Moscow. This was said by Field Marshal Montgomery (House of Lords, May 1962). However, he didn’t talk about rule two, which is: ‘never make war with Afghans’. But what if the Afghans themselves want to make war? And if they draw the sword should we return ours to the scabbard? And if now we have an insult to avenge should we become avengers and not the professional soldiers that we are?

What is Afghanistan up to and how should Pakistan respond to an Afghanistan which is getting more and more Indianized in its speech and act?

If India was not playing the role of a spoiler would we ever have an Afghanistan that would duck and dodge the Pakistani offers of dialogue and instead respond by carrying out unprovoked firing at Pakistani troops guarding a census team (5th May 2017)? This latest Afghan firing incident demonstrates that the Afghan guns have also started speaking the Indian language of murdering the innocent civilians that live across the border divide. If their guns now speak Indian language what about the mindset and mentality of the Afghan generals and their military officers that get training exposures in the Indian military academies and training schools?

Read more: Will Pakistanis & Afghans be able to see through the Indian great game?

Days before this unnecessary firing incident in Killi Luqman and Killi Jahangir villages of border District of Chaman (in which 10 innocent people were killed and over 40 injured) Pakistan had made some serious efforts to warm up the Pak-Afghan relations. First a high-level military delegation led by CGS Lt Gen Bilal Akbar visited Kabul and later the DG ISI Lt Gen Naveed Mukhtar also visited the country. These were high profile visits considering the unquestionable role that Pakistan military and its intelligence agency are likely to play in determining what shape and course our future relations with Afghanistan should take? Yet the Afghan President who was invited to visit Pakistan refused to visit and now this firing incident. What is Afghanistan up to and how should Pakistan respond to an Afghanistan which is getting more and more Indianized in its speech and act?

Does India want to squeeze Pakistan by propelling Afghanistan?
One cowardly retaliatory action that the Indians have already carried out is the abduction of Retired Lieutenant Colonel Habib of Pakistan army. Picked up from Nepal airport and driven to India, the abduction looks like a response act to the arrest of Indian spy Kulbhushan Jhadav.

The Indian guided Afghan motive is clear unless green-signaled by India, ‘rapprochement must always stay away and beyond Pakistan’s reach’. The now not so veiled Indian-Afghan dual policy of building pressure on Pakistan calls for creating a “sandwich effect” in which no major wars of conquests but limited and small scale proxies and military actions (like the recent one in Chamman) should be carried out with a view to damage and hurt the pride and prestige of Pakistan’s military. The paradigm is there at the Eastern front for Afghans to emulate. The front (Pakistan shares a 3,323 km boundary with India including 749 km LOC) where the bellicose Indian army continues to threaten Pakistan with a likelihood of retaliatory military actions and surgical strikes. The latest comes from their military chief.

Read more: Af-Pak border heating up: Who is to be blamed?

Speaking after the recent killing of two Indian soldiers on the Indian side of the border (for which India accuses Pakistan Army and for which it has no proofs) its military chief, General Bipin Rawat, said, “When this kind of action takes place, we also carry out retaliatory action… We do not talk about future plans beforehand. We share details after execution of the plan.”

Read full article:

Pakistan: No option but to hit back at India & its Afghan proxy

to all Indian leadership(s) :
- i am not afraid of any of you nor of your agents.
- i recommend you stop harassing Pakistan *immediately* and *forever*.

i wont even enter a debate with any Indian about this.
you are not the first arrogant country that i issue a course-change warning to about their desire to control a neighboring country via false-flag spectrum methods like this "new friendship with the Afghans" *is*.

fail to heed my words and i'll expose how India is far from a civlized country at the moment.
and that goes a lot further than mentioning your 'gang-rape going unpunished' and 'slavery based on Indian religion'.. those are easy to address, and have been addresses world-wide often enough not to pack enough punch against you warmongers in India.
And i'll fight with the truth too.

That was your first and final warning for the entire year. STOP TURNING THE AFGHAN NATION INTO A FALSE-FRIENDSHIP-TOOL FOR INDIA.


Not sure what exactly Pakistan is waiting for?!
According to public opinion on PDF, Pakistan can give a "befitting reply" to India at will.

According to @BHarwana India does not have the nuclear bomb, no second strike capability and our missiles are junk.
According to @Windjammer Indian army is suffering from mutiny and lack of discipline in its ranks (based on the thread from today)

On top of that the prevailing sentiment is that Kashmir has already been lost and that Indian army will have to vacate Kashmir shortly. To add to this, the muslim mistreatment in India on issues like beef etc compound the problem.

Not to mention the supa powa China got Pakistan's back on all fronts!

So this should be the right time to cut india down to size, no? Don't write articles, take action Pakistan!


i dont think borders over there need to be re-drawn.. it's the aggressive political actions and speech that has to be cooled down.. adding talk about using weapons to redrawn borders, is just going to lead to terror-strikes that provoke bigger military responses. and in all those events it's innocents (like your own wife, mother, granny) that suffer the most.
war is not fun, and hardly ever honorable. #dutchMansOpinion
 
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to all Indian leadership(s) :
- i am not afraid of any of you nor of your agents.
- i recommend you stop harassing Pakistan *immediately* and *forever*.

i wont even enter a debate with any Indian about this.
you are not the first arrogant country that i issue a course-change warning to about their desire to control a neighboring country via false-flag spectrum methods like this "new friendship with the Afghans" *is*.

fail to heed my words and i'll expose how India is far from a civlized country at the moment.
and that goes a lot further than mentioning your 'gang-rape going unpunished' and 'slavery based on Indian religion'.. those are easy to address, and have been addresses world-wide often enough not to pack enough punch against you warmongers in India.
And i'll fight with the truth too.

That was your first and final warning for the entire year. STOP TURNING THE AFGHAN NATION INTO A FALSE-FRIENDSHIP-TOOL FOR INDIA.


Eddie Snowden?! Is that you?!

i dont think borders over there need to be re-drawn.. it's the aggressive political actions and speech that has to be cooled down.. adding talk about using weapons to redrawn borders, is just going to lead to terror-strikes that provoke bigger military responses. and in all those events it's innocents (like your own wife, mother, granny) that suffer the most.
war is not fun, and hardly ever honorable. #dutchMansOpinion

#dutchMansOpinion
What's your horse in the this race?!
 
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it is true that historically Afghanistan is a land where empires come to die.
Pakistan was attacked by Afghan soldiers and supported by our eastern neighbour directly or indirectly.
Pakistan has no desire or wish to inflict suffering on the Afghans, however we will defend our land and our people.
People of Chaman showed great courage defending their homes until the army arrived. this is the spirit of Pakistan.
we do not wish to take any Afghan land or to occupy the people.
We also know that soon this puppet regime in Afghanistan will come to an end. NATO has been defeated and so will this rag tag army trained by none other than India.
I sincerely hope the Afghans learn their lessons. our Army and politician alike said they did not rejoice in causing suffering to the Afghan and I agree and sympathise with the AFghan people but their government needs to learn.
if there is a next time then I think a direct air attack on the government of Afghanistan should send a clear message. Hurt our people and we will bring pain directly to you.
Hope the afghans learn.........but millions of pathans are Pakistani and they dislike the Afghanis (we all know why)
 
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Eddie Snowden?! Is that you?!

Nope. I'm truly a Dutchman named in real life by my parents as Rene A.J.M. Veerman :)

What's your horse in the this race?!

More peace, more prosperity, especially for those living in conflict zones.
At the moment my focus on this forum is for those living in Syria all the way to Pakistan and it's neighbors.
 
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