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PESHAWAR: Dilawar Khan often gets phone calls that would fill others with dread — threats from the Pakistani Taliban to behead him. He gives his usual response: Not if he kills them first.

Khan, leader of a Pashtun tribal militia, joined forces with Pakistani security forces in 2008 to help them battle a rising tide of militancy.

He has lost 82 fighters and barely survived numerous assassination attempts but still stands up to militants bent on toppling the government.

But like other militia leaders, Khan feels abandoned by the state, which promised him funding and moral support, and he even speaks of switching sides.

“It feels like the government just threw us in the ocean to fend for ourselves,” said Khan, a round-faced, stern-looking man wearing traditional baggy trousers and tunic.
Pakistan can’t afford to lose friends like Khan.

It has come under enormous US pressure step up its fight against groups like the Taliban and al Qaeda since Osama bin Laden was found and killed in Pakistan last month.

Islamabad may have to succumb to US demands to open a risky new front against militants in North Waziristan to confront dangerous groups who cross the border to attack American troops in Afghanistan.

Pakistan is accused of backing some of the most dangerous groups, rather than confronting them, allegations it denies.

Pakistan’s army has failed to subdue militants despite a series of offensives against their strongholds in the unruly ethnic Pashtun lands along the Afghan border.

That’s why the government began encouraging Pashtun tribesmen like Khan to revive traditional militias to take on the Taliban and rally their communities behind the state.
Under a centuries-old tradition, tribes raise militias, or lashkars, in their semi-autonomous regions to fight criminal gangs and enforce their tribal codes.

Many sacrifices, few rewards

The drive has had limited success after the Taliban hit back by killing hundreds of tribal leaders and silencing others.

Critics say Pakistan lacks the resolve and resources to make the lashkars a success.

Pakistani officials say the government does its best to support the lashkars.

Khan’s plight is typical. He runs a lashkar of 200 men, armed with AK-47 assault rifles and some rocket-propelled grenades, charged with protecting a group of farming villages in Adezai, about an hour’s drive from the city of Peshawar.

His warriors have made many sacrifices standing up to the Taliban. They left their jobs to operate the lashkar full time.

Each fighter’s extended family has to pay salaries, buy food, petrol and clothes, a heavy drain on the poor community.

While Khan’s frustrations grow, the unpredictable Taliban remain as determined as ever to wipe out his force.

About 150 of them attack at a time, sometimes every five days, or they wait five months, keeping Adezai on edge. The onslaughts can last for hours.

Khan’s morale sunk to a low in March when a teenage Taliban suicide bomber attacked a funeral procession for the relative of a lashkar leader in a nearby village, killing 37 people.

“Out of anger I announced to my people that I will join the Taliban,” said Khan, a father of seven.

His nearby bodyguards are twitchy, aware that the Taliban have come very close to killing Khan — in one attack they rocketed his bedroom while he and his family were asleep inside.

Khan’s fury has eased but he stills sees the government as an unreliable partner.

“Why would anyone else want to form a lashkar around here. It’s not worth it,” said Khan, 39, whose brother, also a militia leader, was hunted down and shot dead by the Taliban.

Despite such complaints and the pitfalls of the lashkar system, Pakistan is trying to persuade tribal elders to take up arms in North Waziristan — a sanctuary for some of the world’s most notorious militant groups — instead of meeting repeated US demands to launch an offensive there.

But authorities are unlikely to win over more elders, especially at a time when the Taliban are stepping up attacks on militiamen.

“We are not going to raise a lashkar even if the government asked us to,” said Malik Din Torikhel, an elder in North Waziristan.

“Look what militants are doing in other areas. We don’t want to be shot dead or butchered.”


Pakistan needs all the help it can get from militias | Provinces | DAWN.COM
 
Give it up you guys cannot defeat the Taliban even on your own soil...after all its their own home as well.
 
Give it up you guys cannot defeat the Taliban even on your own soil...after all its their own home as well.

Let's seal the border and see who's more effective. You take care of the militants on your side of the Durand Line and we'll manage our end. If you are not too old, you might live to see the end game. Live Strong.
 
Creating militias to do the job of a professional army is what got you guys in this mess. Stop kicking sand, recall your red-berets from bodyguard duties, and give the Taliban blood and vinegar. Don't do it for the US...do it for your people.
 
Creating militias to do the job of a professional army is what got you guys in this mess. Stop kicking sand, recall your red-berets from bodyguard duties, and give the Taliban blood and vinegar. Don't do it for the US...do it for your people.

Agnorant man........We never created militias...........it was ur uncle american tht armed,funded,gathered and gave ideology to the warlords to fight evil godless commie "kafirs".......................... the local militias are there to protect there small villages frm these talibastards and they r doin a really good job even without the help of the GoP!

Abt the red berets probably u dnt know the sacrifices they have made..........PA launched the larget air borne assualt Ops of the century in FATA n SWAT!

And no red berets dont provide security to anybdy except the COAS!
 
Agnorant man........We never created militias...........it was ur uncle american tht armed,funded,gathered and gave ideology to the warlords to fight evil godless commie "kafirs".......................... the local militias are there to protect there small villages frm these talibastards and they r doin a really good job even without the help of the GoP!

Abt the red berets probably u dnt know the sacrifices they have made..........PA launched the larget air borne assualt Ops of the century in FATA n SWAT!

And no red berets dont provide security to anybdy except the COAS!
It was probably, literally speaking, your uncle who created these militias. No need to drag me into your cess pit please. I recognize Pakistan has done a lot for the war on terror, but it is not doing enough hence the use of drones.
 
Right because the U.S has done an amazing job defeating the taliban/AQ :lol:

Don't avoid the issue. Can you guys defeat the Taliban or not? If not its okay, its their own home thats why they are motivated to kill you guys.
 
Don't avoid the issue. Can you guys defeat the Taliban or not? If not its okay, its their own home thats why they are motivated to kill you guys.

Hows uncle sam n the 44 nation NATO doin in A-stan these days? can u guys defeat them or not?


Plus........ compare PA sacrifices n gains with NATO and ud be ashamed.
 
No one can defeat talibans.

Just like no city can 100% keep mouse free, there are some battles that will only need luck to win.
 
I wonder where Turkestan Bhittani is nowdays....he's been off the radar screen since the beginning of the SWA campaign.

the tribesmen are patriotic Pakistanis, but yes they need govt. support and attention.

Support and attention doesnt mean just guns and ammo, mind you. It requires economic upliftment and other attention. I never even see politicians go to those areas to visit and show that "hey, we know you are there, we're on your side".....only it's the Army and some of the NGOs doing that, since theyre the only one with balls and proactiveness to do that.

govt. is lazy....and apathetic
 
Hows uncle sam n the 44 nation NATO doin in A-stan these days? can u guys defeat them or not?


Plus........ compare PA sacrifices n gains with NATO and ud be ashamed.

We doing pretty good because cause the Taliban is willing to negotiate with us, something they refuse to do. How about you guys? Can you defeat them to the point of forcing them to negotiate? So far I haven't heard of any negotiating. These guys are your brothers. Your Muslim brothers.
 
We doing pretty good because cause the Taliban is willing to negotiate with us, something they refuse to do. How about you guys? Can you defeat them to the point of forcing them to negotiate?

peace talks have been tried twice, they failed both times because we negotiated from a position of weakness (e.g. the 'Swat accord' which was a total disaster in my opinion --except that it showed the two-faced nature of the TTP)

i think the trick is not to blindly engage in peace talks per se, but to get the tribes against them........we've had successes in this so far. Orakzai, Mohmand, Kurram Agency largely free of militants, except lower Kurram regions bordering N.Waziristan (which itself is fairly peaceful for the most part, save for a few untoward incidents).

COIN is something we are learning on-the-job.....and we will continue to do so even after NATO is long gone, since this may very well be a medium-long term battle (or rather, intermittant squirmishes when state writ has been challenged)

however the military option alone is not feasible.....and you and I both know this by now



So far I haven't heard of any negotiating. These guys are your brothers. Your Muslim brothers.

it's preferrable that they be "guided" ; that they educate themselves and help their communities rather than constantly resort to the rifle....

those who are willing to end their anti-state activity should be embraced, not punished. Those who continue to challenge the writ of the state -- they will get what is coming to them sooner or later. It is in their own interests to cooperate, but of course there will be those who wont go down without a fight. There is a solution for those types of people.
 
Pakistan do not meed any assistance from militias - in fact militias are the problem, not the solution to the problem of insurgency.

The problem of insurgency is essentially the problem of the state abdicating it sole, exclusive claim over the use of coercion in the force of law, in society - by resorting to militias, the Pakistani state in particular, true to it's colonial heritage, prefers to act through agents to whom it distributes what is supposed to be her exclusive tool and in doing so it undermines itself even more.

Pakistan have a potent army, when it is properly led and it has police forces that are competent, when they do not have to be thinking about how their families will make it to the next day -- it's always incredible to read Pakistani opinion, it seems so determined to reject all that actually works and is actually required, in favor of all sorts of idiot ideas, at the core of which is a distortion or corruption of some idea being sold as Islam or Islamic.
 
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