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Pakistan need new weapons for counter insurgency: says ex-PAF officer

LONDON, Feb 15 (APP)- A former Pakistan Air Force senior officer has called on the West to provide his country with modern weapons for dealing with counter insurgency and to avoid collateral damage.

Air Marshal (retd) Masood Akhtar was speaking at a seminar “The Role of Air Power in Counter-Insurgency Pakistan’s Experience in the Tribal Region” at the International Institute of Strategic Studies here on Thursday evening.

He said Pakistan’s forces are battling a Taliban insurgency in the tribal areas in NWFP in which PAF is playing an important role.

However, he added that helicopters rather than fixed-wing warplanes have been found more useful in these hilly areas.

Air Marshal Masood who has been a fighter pilot for 35 years and with over 2500 hours of flying experience on a variety of PAF fighter and training aircraft, said the Air Force had been using this air power with caution and restrain in order to prevent collateral damage.

He was of the view that precision guided ammunitions were better suited for PAF’s requirement rather than thousand pounder or five hundred pounder bombs which cause greater collateral damage.

“If we are provided with smaller and smarter bombs, we could easily avoid unintended damage to civilian life or property,” he said.

For the air power to be successful in counter-insurgency, he observed, a lot depends on good ground intelligence because any wrong information could lead to unwarranted damages.

Air Marshal Masood who also served as a Commandant, Air War College, during the course of his service with PAF, noted that damages to civilian life and property has resulted into a backlash which has been evident by the recent attacks on the PAF personnels by the suicide bombers.

He also explained the circumstances which led to the rise of Al-Qaeda and Taliban and said such extremists groups emerged as a result of the global politics in which Pakistan, willy nilly, had been caught up with and paying a heavy price.

The Air Marshal said during Soviet Union 10 years of occupation of Afghanistan, PAF had brought down a dozen Soviet and Afghan Air Force planes found in violation of Pakistan territory.

The retired Air Force officer said Pakistan was pushed into thinking itself as a citadel of Islam as a consequence of the Cold War in which the West’s primary motive was to defeat Communism of Soviet Union and stop its spread.

“As a result the message of founding fathers Muhammad Ali Jinnah and poet-philosopher Allama Iqbal of a tolerant and egalitarian society with people enjoying equal social, political and economical rights and opportunities was set aside and lost.”

He said both Osama Bin Laden and Mullah Omar had used globalisation to the hilt and achieved their objectives. He stressed the need for launching political, economic and social campaigns in the tribal areas to win the hearts and minds of the people and wean them from extremist ideology.

Air Marshal Masood called for overhauling the education system in Pakistan with greater focus on providing an effective primary education to replace religious seminaries.” Only a well established and efficient unified education system could provide a basis and sense of a nationhood.,” he asserted.

He pointed out the difficulties of a fighting an enemy without a face and thought that Pakistan will have to fight such non-state factors for a long time.

Responding to questions, he said there is a reluctance on the part of the West to give Pakistan sophisticated weapons while the country is averse to allowing NATO troops to operate inside its borders.

In the current regional scenario, he noted that India has behaved sensibly and has not tried to take advantage of Pakistan’s predicament. The Air Marshal said both Pakistan and India have realised that military was no solution to Kashmir issue and have started the peace process.

The meeting was chaired by a former RAF bomber pilot Andrew Brookes, a IISS Aerospace analyst.
 
A good post. Essentially no new information but reinforces what we have been saying for a long time. The spectre of Taliban, was not entirely of Pakistani origin although we have played our role in our quest for strategic depth. Now that this move has backfired due to changing ground realities, we need to have a strategy of controlling the elements that get too out of hand while ensuring that the rest of the populace does not get too alienated.
The attention to our national carriculum is something that i have been harping on for sometime. Equally important is the opportunity for securing a livelihood other than kidnapping, gunrunning ,bachay Baazi etc. For this we need infra structure and investment and factories.
Precision strike needs of the PAF are a double edged sword in the sense that if you look at the other end of the coin, the West sees us allied to China and making fair endeavours in various fields. If they provide us latest technology, it can get reverse engineered. They therefore have a dilemma,as to whether to provide it to us or not. Sooner or later, they will do so, but I feel they might try just giving/promising some money and only provide us precision strike capability as a last resort. We should certainly keep the pressure on
WaSalam
Araz
 
I am surprised more people in PAF and the PA are not pushing for more UAVs to be deployed, especially armed drones. Helicopters are quite expensive machines in comparison whereas a UAV is cheaper. Also UAVs can be built locally, stimulating local industry and infrastructure.
 
here is a new twist in COIN ops....

DoD-funded report identifies deficiencies in US COIN strategy

Nathan Hodge JDW Staff Reporter - Washington, DC

Key Points
Despite seven years of the 'global war on terror', the US is still ill equipped to fight insurgencies, a RAND study has reported

The report notes a "gaping deficit" of civilian professionals available to support US COIN efforts


A new study funded by the US Department of Defense (DoD) has concluded that, seven years into a 'global war' on Islamic terrorism, the United States is still ill equipped to fight insurgencies.

The report - prepared by the RAND National Defense Research Institute, a federally funded centre - comes amid renewed debate within the US government and among NATO member states over the proper approach to counter-insurgency (COIN) operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Despite recent improvements in the security of Iraq, the report emphasises serious shortfalls in US capability to support reconstruction and development programmes.

"It would be a profound mistake to conclude from it [Iraq] that all the US needs is more military force to defeat Islamist insurgencies," said David Gompert, lead author of the report, in a statement. "One need only contemplate the precarious condition of Pakistan to realise the limitations of US military power and the peril of relying upon it."

Among other things, the report suggests that the US government should shift emphasis away from large-scale military occupation and combat operations and focus on building legitimate and effective local governments that are capable of providing their own security. It also makes a specific prescription for a new information-sharing architecture - the Integrated Counterinsurgency Operating Network (ICON) - that would allow for better intelligence sharing among military, intelligence and civilian organisations.

The study also indicates areas of focus for military procurement and technology, including funding for maritime and border surveillance, technical intelligence collection, air mobility and logistics, and special operations. It also recommends further investment in 'low end' surveillance and reconnaissance systems such as tactical unmanned aerial vehicles and land-based electronic sensors.

While there is a general consensus that such conflicts cannot be resolved by military means alone, the report notes a "gaping deficit" of civilian professionals who are available to support US COIN efforts. US civilian agencies have struggled to find personnel to staff reconstruction and training efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan and the US Department of State has only a very small 'active response corps' that can respond to contingencies. The RAND study estimates that the US would need thousands more deployable civilians to respond effectively to COIN needs.

On the technological side, the authors of the study are sceptical about the ability of the US government to create something as ambitious as ICON, which would draw upon cell phone monitoring, embedded video and biometric information and would encourage more collaboration between US, coalition and local partners.

"Can the US government create ICON?" the report says. "The record is not encouraging. Reliance on normal government procurement processes would guarantee that ICONic capabilities are not delivered, at least not soon. The simple idea of getting various US forces to use compatible radios - a 20th-century device - has taken a decade and billions of dollars. ... DoD has relied mainly on traditional defence contractors ('lead systems integrators') to buy and assemble information solutions, in part because leading IT firms are deterred by red tape from entering the defence market."

The study, which took two years to complete, draws on data from 89 insurgencies
 
The article is very good and sheds light upon many ground realities.

My question however is, why not purchase helicopters and precision guided munition from other sources like China, Turkey or Europe if dealing with the US is a problem?
 
The article is very good and sheds light upon many ground realities.

My question however is, why not purchase helicopters and precision guided munition from other sources like China, Turkey or Europe if dealing with the US is a problem?

A lot of the US funding can be channeled back into the arms purchases with the FMS. Going to third parties would mean Pakistan has to finance the whole thing on its own...hard pill to swallow especially when the CI agenda was never on the table for the Pakistani armed forces.
 
CI needs to be a top agenda point and we should listen to all who want to help upgrade our capabilities.
 
Could anybody please provide an analysis of what is reasonably within reach of PAF and PA? What are ourrequirements and where can we get them from. Secondly could any member in the know tell me what level we are at with regards to development of such capability in house?
Help would be appreciated
Araz
 
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