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Pakistan Must Stop Legitimising Barbarity Under The Guise Of Blasphemy Law

laws are never a problem for Pakistan.
they are not fairly implemented and that just gives further wind to the rebellious kids playing video games

Well, then who fault is that? Establishing the rule of law is a requisite to effective governance. If Pakistanis wish to be governed by mob rule and law of the jungle, that is their right too. (Judging from they way they behave in traffic, that may be a good choice for them.)
 
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The supporters of blasphemy law :lol:
@Musafir117
O bhai the utter majority is in support of it, ap apne ap ko ais forum pe 2-3 hum khiyal akathe karke lorian dete raho n the two issues are not related nor is khadim hussien the only one who supports it, khadim hussien ke waja se govt ko agly hi din khatme nabowat amendment change nhn karni pari, there were other forces at work, forces that stand on the border day n night, i knw that as a fact...
 
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Well, then who fault is that? Establishing the rule of law is a requisite to effective governance. If Pakistanis wish to be governed by mob rule and law of the jungle, that is their right too. (Judging from they way they behave in traffic, that may be a good choice for them.)

laws are enforced not implemented

yes thank you.

you can move to Baltimore and enjoy a lawful jungle yourself
 
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Firstly, I'll gloss over the blasphemy law itself. But I'd rather take this thread as an opportunity to briefly discuss the whole constitutions as opposed to this one minor law. There are probably a few different positions one can take with regards to this law. I personally am not in favour of policing morality, and especially not making immorality punishable by such harsh punitive measures.

Even so, the first level at which one might criticise the current situation (and not specifically the law), is one I think we can all agree on. Mob rule is never legitimate, and any case of blasphemy where due process of law has been usurped is unacceptable. The second position is probably regarding the current form of the law, and any issues of jurisprudence regarding blasphemy. We can debate about whether a witness ought to be sufficient, about how other motives might drive a conviction, targeting of minorities, and the severity of it. I'd go as far as this second position. The last position is those who are totally opposed to any blasphemy law, policing of morality, against forms of protection of religious sentiment and advocates of a high degree of freedom of expression. I personally don't take this stance for Pakistan, it is an Islamic Republic, and this position is detached from the current reality of Pakistan.

However, with that said, blasphemy law is only a minor issue that is related to larger problems we face. There are FAR more pressing matters that are related to the blasphemy law that we should focus our efforts on. Mob rule in enforcement of blasphemy is the result of a lack of law order, an uneducated society etc. The existence of certain aspects of the current constitution are questionable. In my opinion, there ought to be a new constitution that should be developed, or at least this one requires major reform.

Reform isn't easy of course, and a new constitution is even harder. The first and hardest step would be to consolidate enough political credibility. Which ironically, in my opinion was lacking when this constitution was drawn up in the first. And even after it was drawn up, it became a political system misused by Zia, I take as much issue to radicalism he placed therein as I take issue with what he did it for. Zia, didn't use Islam at a state level because he was a pious man, he did it to legitimise himself and for political power. That's only one aspect to consider though.
With due respect I would like to tell you that this law presented and approved by Bhutto a liberal himself at least he claims, Gen Zia imposed it which is due.
If you read history you may know that there were huge riots against a minority, clashes are every where, their shops, houses burnt many killed and to save this Govt at that time call both majority and minority to discuss they have given 72 speaking hours to present their case but at the end when Bhutto or another person ask their Imam that if we majority don't believe in you Prophet and call him dajjal then what opinion you would have for us he replied Kafir then Bhutto said now we have to decide 98% people are Kafir or 2% and then they were declared non-Muslims by law.

and believe me this save many future riots and mass killings and all fiqq agreed on it but you know every other law being misused but no one says amend it if it happen with this law its not because of this law but because of people and corrupt system.
 
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laws are enforced not implemented

yes thank you.

you can move to Baltimore and enjoy a lawful jungle yourself

A law not enforced is not implemented either. It is up to those whose duty it is to follow the law to enforce and implement them as well.
 
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O bhai the utter majority is in support of it, ap apne ap ko ais forum pe 2-3 hum khiyal akathe karke lorian dete raho...
A lot of Pakistani sunnis consider Shias kafir do you really want to go that route?
 
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A law not enforced is not implemented either. It is up to those whose duty it is to follow the law to enforce and implement them as well.
Pick a stance man, dont pick at straws huh, its irritating.
 
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A law not enforced is not implemented either. It is up to those whose duty it is to follow the law to enforce and implement them as well.

sir phir enforce karne atay hain to kapre phaar kar asma jahangir bahar nikal ati hai.. missing persons case ban jatay hain..
rogue army ban jati hai.... oppressed minorities hojati hain.... ethnical cleansing hojati hai...genocide hojati hai..

ye sari chezen apse hi seekhi hai 50 saalon me..... dukh bhari daastaan ye video game wale bache thodi apko sunaenge... wo to Pokemon ban hone per kaali pattiyaan baand kar phir rahe hote hai...
 
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Pick a stance man, dont pick at straws huh, its irritating.

My stance supports the rule of law, and the right of the people to determine the laws that they wish to be governed by, clearly.
 
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sir phir enforce karne atay hain to kapre phaar kar asma jahangir bahar nikal ati hai.. missing persons case ban jatay hain..
rogue army ban jati hai.... oppressed minorities hojati hain.... ethnical cleansing hojati hai...genocide hojati hai..

ye sari chezen apse hi seekhi hai 50 saalon me..... dukh bhari daastaan ye video game wale bache thodi apko sunaenge... wo to Pokemon ban hone per kaali pattiyaan baand kar phir rahe hote hai...

Blaming others for the faults of the system will never work.
 
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Blaming others for the faults of the system will never work.

acha.. ab ham blame karne walay hogaye

bare bare wordsmaster dekhen hai Syed Sahib per aap ka mayaar or rutba Syed wala hi hai.. Brahmin

chalen ye bataen.. abhi koi sindh me operation hone wala hai... usper aap kab scrutinize karenge Fauj or Idaron ko?
 
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A lot of Pakistani sunnis consider Shias kafir do you really want to go that route?
Sunni shia matter is a completely different one, shias are not kaffirs because they dont refute any basic islamic principle, sunni shia rift is more born out of two regional countries aka iran n saudis fighting for hegimoney while ahmadis voilate the basuc principle of islam i.e the seal of prophethood, the entire muslim world is in consensus in the matter of their kuffr while shias are not even considered kaffirs by saudi arabia thier mortal enemy as saudis allow them to perform hajj etc...
 
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