Pakistan may study other fighter options as US asks Pakistan to make full payment for F-16 purchase

[MastanKhan]

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Dear MK

how PAF can go for F-16 Production Line or at least make a dialogue

Hi,

There is no reason to go for the F16 anymore---. How many times does paf wants to be bit-ch slapped---?

They screwed up bad last year----you never threaten the americans---out of his cockiness the pakistani air chief marshall threatened the U S---give the planes or we will go elsewhere----.

The U S shoved it right up pakistan's ar-se----take it---now why are you people screaming.

These air force idiots are clueless in how to make a deal with the U S---. These fckrs think that they are so clever to play with the americans---they forget or don't even know that the japanese also tried to play with the americans in the 80'---the shaft that the americans gave the japanese in the 80's---it still has not come out yet---.

Americans are nce people---they are wonderful people--- and some of them are total ars-eholes as well---but you use the technique to play them---you cannot confront them unless you are israel.

Paf had it on a platter---the chinese wanted to goive them 18 J10 last year---paf had two of them for testing---and then paf as usual fckd it all up---because they got no fcking brains to make deals.

Since the san bernardino killing---the U S is a changed nation---I gues no one told the paf about that----it is a different country now---the dealing would be different as well.

It had to be much nicer attitude---much more polite---and with a game plan----that should have been implemented before the action was taken-----.

And that was---to take delivery of 18 J10's---and be quiet for awhile about the F16's---let the americans get curious as to what the issue is---is the J10 so good that the paks don't need the F16----.

You know what curiosity does---it kills the fcxking cat---you fckrs are brainless morons---sitting in your houses stinking of feces that is flowing outside in open drains and you think that you can manipulate the u s congress and u s senate by your little threats---and play making---and smart talk of this poster Ghazi with 17 posts to his credit

If you had made the americans curious---they would have dropped the f16's in your lap to just get back the influience they supposedly lost---.

You morons think that you are so clever---want to trick the original car sales people---the deal makers---worst is yet to come.

I don't claim to be an expert, but from what I have seen in your system, including Bhutto, you have never had anything remotely close to a Independent Political system.

I don't wan't to draw any comparisons but I will point out the will of strong political backbone, even with the 7th fleet knocking at the doors of India, we did not budge, and it took one phone call fron Collin Powell, to pull the carpet under the same taliban that Pakistan nurtured and babied. This is what is I was referring to.

Pakistan for military equipment has to pay. India too has to pay for it's equipment. The difference is India has paid sticker prices, inflated prices, even sometimes with commodities. Pakistan instead paid lesser in dollars and made the rest up with Subservience and Allegiances, At the onset dollars it paid was less, but the price as you know was HUGE.

Hi,

The reason it took one phone call was that Mushy being the head of military knew better than the previous generals how weak the condition of the pak military was---and also knew that the americans meant business this time.

Remembr--it also took " One Phone call " to Khwarzim Shah from Genghis Khan to hand over the governor of Otrar for the killings of mongol business men.

The refusal to heed the call---resulted in changed geography and muslim civilization---.

See---there is no time for realization when the bullets hits between the eyes---you don't even know when you died---but an instant before---you may have been the biggest ars-ehole in your area---.

The reason we didnot have independant political system is that our politicians were and are dictators---and our generals are more liberals.

The politicians don't observe the rule of law---and unless there is no rule of law in the society---there is no political system.

As for the 7th fleet---the moment the U S realized that it is a clash between two households and one does not want to stay with the other---they stopped the movement and Indira also got that message and she pushed ahead---.

So--there is no comparison betwen the two---.

 

[Dalit]

So are you telling me that you will be unhappy and express regret If the sale of Most advanced and PAF's Most Favorite fighter jet sale is cleared by Congress/Senate?

What I'm saying is that the F-16 era is over. I'm glad that the brave congressmen are making sure of it. Whether the PAF is unhappy is basically beside the point. The PAF will have to deal with these facts one way or the other. I'm just stating the facts. We cannot finance 700 million dollars. We won't finance 700 million dollars.

 

[Photon]

woooow
Man what country we are ,, According to you we are paying more then one and a half for spear parts ,,,, lmao
if that true then y not go for only 8 birds 34*8=272m man we already paid that ,,,,and do you think latest ne F16 block 52 is only 34m$$$ , man need source for that and no wiki please
And for J10C , yes it will cost 1billion dollars minimum for first 20 birds ,,But after that ,,,, They will be cheap and made in Pakistan without any USA problem ,
Thank you

F-16D Block 52

Initial Operational Capability (IOC): 1994
Total Production: ?
Unitary Cost: USD$34 million

http://www.deagel.com/Strike-and-Fighter-Aircraft/F-16D-Block-52_a000540012.aspx

 

[Spectre]

Pakistan is going to get these F-16s, and the US is going to pay for them.

Pakistan should forget about the F-16s, and save it's money for a better option, but it's still going to happen.

Something you would bet money on?

 

[MilSpec]

The reason it took one phone call was that Mushy being the head of military knew better than the previous generals how weak the condition of the pak military was---and also knew that the americans meant business this time.

Remembr--it also took " One Phone call " to Khwarzim Shah from Genghis Khan to hand over the governor of Otrar for the killings of mongol business men.

The refusal to heed the call---resulted in changed geography and muslim civilization---.

See---there is no time for realization when the bullets hits between the eyes---you don't even know when you died---but an instant before---you may have been the biggest ars-ehole in your area---.

The reason we didnot have independant political system is that our politicians were and are dictators---and our generals are more liberals.

The politicians don't observe the rule of law---and unless there is no rule of law in the society---there is no political system.

As for the 7th fleet---the moment the U S realized that it is a clash between two households and one does not want to stay with the other---they stopped the movement and Indira also got that message and she pushed ahead---.

So--there is no comparison betwen the two---.

Spend less, pay for what you can afford, and end the regime of subservience to US, China, or who ever is willing to give you stuff, craft your foriegn policy in Islamabad rather than Washington D.C, Bejing and riyadh. You won't have a single reason to complain hence forth.

Good night.

 

[Dalit]

Why did pakistan subsidize the U S war on terror---?

You have been vindicated and were right all along brother. The F-16 deal is today a dead deal. We're now going to learn it the hard way.

 

[Pandora]

now its so fun to go through all those india bashing threads about how nobody cares about our "randi rona".
and how usa needs pak more then india.and how indian lobbies have wasted billions of dollars.

If Indians have wasted billions for a deal worth millions then I salute the intelligence of Indian Lobbyists

 

[Paksanity]

Wait and watch, my Indian friends. We have a nasty habit of breaking your hearts.

 

[Dr Gupta]

@MastanKhan a country with nuclear weapons, a big diaspora and the mighty ISI can still lay a few cards on the table who controls the opium trade in Afghanistan? And I ain't talking about the poor farmers growing it.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

This is a very good news, finally finally we are going to move away from the yanks.

 

[Kim Philby]

Make peace with India.....You won't need anything to buy (weapons)......nor will require the Army to maintain!!

 

[Windjammer]

Pakistan is going to get these F-16s, and the US is going to pay for them.

Pakistan should forget about the F-16s, and save it's money for a better option, but it's still going to happen.

Indeed it will, else Americans are well aware of the fact that they will loose any leverage they may have on Pakistan... the icing on the cake is that concerned for American taxpayers, our insecure neighbour is spending it's own taxpayers millions on lobbying.....while our bidding is being done scot free by none other than the VP of Lockheed.....that's what you call having your cake and enjoying it.

 

[Dalit]

@MastanKhan a country with nuclear weapons, a big diaspora and the mighty ISI can still lay a few cards on the table who controls the opium trade in Afghanistan? And I ain't talking about the poor farmers growing it.

Our greatest achievement today would be to move away from US influence.

 

[Dalit]

Make peace with India.....You won't need anything to buy (weapons)......nor will require the Army to maintain!!

LOL Really? What will you do with your weapons and nukes? Throw them on a fire? Show us that you mean peace and you might get peace.

 

[Rank]

GOOD FOR PAKISTAN