Pakistan may not go for IMF bailout package:

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

We are not going to IMF I have told you this many times.

What's the source of your Keramet??? Please share....

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Shouldn't Plan B have been devised before kicking IMF out ?

I think PM IK's frantic trips have paid off big time -

• KSA ~ $6 billion plus another two years of oil at $6 billion = $12 billion. I also think these are grants but have been masked as "loans" to avoid others running to KSA for similiar deals.
• UAE ~ again I think the frantic visits were not for sightseeing. We had PM IK go twice which tells me again that a package rivaling KSA has been acquired by Pakistan. Again on the hush.
• China ~ I think PM IK walked away with a great deal. However it won;t be so much as $ billion in transfers but I believe a agreement with a route map that aims to grab 1% of Chinese imports which translates to about $20 billion.

You can tell visibly the pressure on PM IK and FM Asad Umar has been lifted. The impending economic disaster that the government inheritated has been averted. Which is why pressure of concluding IMF deal is off. People expected Pakistan would fall on top of the IMF spear out of desperation but that has not happened. This should tel us that between KSA, UAE, China the problem has been resolved.

However IMF is needed to secure international confidence. It's like getting a health certification so I expect Pakistan will get a IMF deal at some point but very much on it's terms. However for me the most exciting thing over the horizon is how the package with China pans out. If that can be secured and developed over time I expect by the time this governments tenure ends Pakistan will be 'Naya' as the exports to China will have taken off and with CPEC pakistan will have carved a niche in the international trading order.

I am so excited that PTI will now be able to focus on it's core manifesto. The developing of the human capital in Pakistan. Education, health, housing, justice. As we move forward this will converge nicely with a Pakistan increasingly tied into the emerging hyperpower - China.

Everything looks promising especially now that it looks like mullahs are being tamed. I just hope PM IK get's one more term and that I really thing will take Pakistan to take off point.

 

[BHarwana]

What's the source of your Keramet??? Please share....

No source bro just calculating global economic factors which were in our favor.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

No source bro just calculating global economic factors which were in our favor.

And, geo-strategic!!! As long as Modi/Doval/Hindutiva/BJP etc are at at the helms, insha’Allah Pak won’t run out of Hosh Baht....

Pak’s job is to ensure that the status quo is maintained!! The more the Hindutuva the better....

I think PM IK's frantic trips have paid off big time -

• KSA ~ $6 billion plus another two years of oil at $6 billion = $12 billion. I also think these are grants but have been masked as "loans" to avoid others running to KSA for similiar deals.
• UAE ~ again I think the frantic visits were not for sightseeing. We had PM IK go twice which tells me again that a package rivaling KSA has been acquired by Pakistan. Again on the hush.
• China ~ I think PM IK walked away with a great deal. However it won;t be so much as $ billion in transfers but I believe a agreement with a route map that aims to grab 1% of Chinese imports which translates to about $20 billion.

You can tell visibly the pressure on PM IK and FM Asad Umar has been lifted. The impending economic disaster that the government inheritated has been averted. Which is why pressure of concluding IMF deal is off. People expected Pakistan would fall on top of the IMF spear out of desperation but that has not happened. This should tel us that between KSA, UAE, China the problem has been resolved.

However IMF is needed to secure international confidence. It's like getting a health certification so I expect Pakistan will get a IMF deal at some point but very much on it's terms. However for me the most exciting thing over the horizon is how the package with China pans out. If that can be secured and developed over time I expect by the time this governments tenure ends Pakistan will be 'Naya' as the exports to China will have taken off and with CPEC pakistan will have carved a niche in the international trading order.

I am so excited that PTI will now be able to focus on it's core manifesto. The developing of the human capital in Pakistan. Education, health, housing, justice. As we move forward this will converge nicely with a Pakistan increasingly tied into the emerging hyperpower - China.

Everything looks promising especially now that it looks like mullahs are being tamed. I just hope PM IK get's one more term and that I really thing will take Pakistan to take off point.

Thanks to impatient Modi/Doval, Pak China relationship is now bonded with blood!!! IK is damn lucky!!! Even Pak’s blood enemies are working for her....

It will depend upon IMF demands, oil prices and what we hear from UAE. In long run it will depend how much tax revamp , fiscal adjustment and CAD (export/remittance ) are done

Whole forum didnt had inside info on saudi as you had. since when has saudi ever helped us this much..its shocking that they agreed for such big bail out package

Than who knew trump will create an artificial glut in oil prices by lying about iran sanctions

Murad-i Ilahi.. Divine Plan/Execution/Order etc....

 

[ziaulislam]

I think PM IK's frantic trips have paid off big time -

• KSA ~ $6 billion plus another two years of oil at $6 billion = $12 billion. I also think these are grants but have been masked as "loans" to avoid others running to KSA for similiar deals.
• UAE ~ again I think the frantic visits were not for sightseeing. We had PM IK go twice which tells me again that a package rivaling KSA has been acquired by Pakistan. Again on the hush.
• China ~ I think PM IK walked away with a great deal. However it won;t be so much as $ billion in transfers but I believe a agreement with a route map that aims to grab 1% of Chinese imports which translates to about $20 billion.

You can tell visibly the pressure on PM IK and FM Asad Umar has been lifted. The impending economic disaster that the government inheritated has been averted. Which is why pressure of concluding IMF deal is off. People expected Pakistan would fall on top of the IMF spear out of desperation but that has not happened. This should tel us that between KSA, UAE, China the problem has been resolved.

However IMF is needed to secure international confidence. It's like getting a health certification so I expect Pakistan will get a IMF deal at some point but very much on it's terms. However for me the most exciting thing over the horizon is how the package with China pans out. If that can be secured and developed over time I expect by the time this governments tenure ends Pakistan will be 'Naya' as the exports to China will have taken off and with CPEC pakistan will have carved a niche in the international trading order.

I am so excited that PTI will now be able to focus on it's core manifesto. The developing of the human capital in Pakistan. Education, health, housing, justice. As we move forward this will converge nicely with a Pakistan increasingly tied into the emerging hyperpower - China.

Everything looks promising especially now that it looks like mullahs are being tamed. I just hope PM IK get's one more term and that I really thing will take Pakistan to take off point.

Still its not easy so many have failed in the past.
I think the key is tax and power refroms. As these two alone are eating up a trillion rupees or equal to your whole development budget

 

[randomradio]

I think PM IK's frantic trips have paid off big time -

• KSA ~ $6 billion plus another two years of oil at $6 billion = $12 billion. I also think these are grants but have been masked as "loans" to avoid others running to KSA for similiar deals.
• UAE ~ again I think the frantic visits were not for sightseeing. We had PM IK go twice which tells me again that a package rivaling KSA has been acquired by Pakistan. Again on the hush.
• China ~ I think PM IK walked away with a great deal. However it won;t be so much as $ billion in transfers but I believe a agreement with a route map that aims to grab 1% of Chinese imports which translates to about $20 billion.

You can tell visibly the pressure on PM IK and FM Asad Umar has been lifted. The impending economic disaster that the government inheritated has been averted. Which is why pressure of concluding IMF deal is off. People expected Pakistan would fall on top of the IMF spear out of desperation but that has not happened. This should tel us that between KSA, UAE, China the problem has been resolved.

However IMF is needed to secure international confidence. It's like getting a health certification so I expect Pakistan will get a IMF deal at some point but very much on it's terms. However for me the most exciting thing over the horizon is how the package with China pans out. If that can be secured and developed over time I expect by the time this governments tenure ends Pakistan will be 'Naya' as the exports to China will have taken off and with CPEC pakistan will have carved a niche in the international trading order.

I am so excited that PTI will now be able to focus on it's core manifesto. The developing of the human capital in Pakistan. Education, health, housing, justice. As we move forward this will converge nicely with a Pakistan increasingly tied into the emerging hyperpower - China.

Everything looks promising especially now that it looks like mullahs are being tamed. I just hope PM IK get's one more term and that I really thing will take Pakistan to take off point.

Next year is a new year with a new CAD problem.

And, geo-strategic!!! As long as Modi/Doval/Hindutiva/BJP etc are at at the helms, insha’Allah Pak won’t run out of Hosh Baht....

Pak’s job is to ensure that the status quo is maintained!! The more the Hindutuva the better....

Too bad the Pak Army doesn't share your view. They are all for RaGa coming to power.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Next year is a new year with a new CAD problem.

And next year is another opportunity to resolve the problem. We have had 'next year' since 1947 ...

 

[randomradio]

And next year is another opportunity to resolve the problem. We have had 'next year' since 1947 ...

I think you have underestimated all the "next years".

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I think you have underestimated all the "next years".

The word "underestimated" is used so often that it has no meaning. Only three months ago people were saying Pakistan was going to sink. Look what happened. If the government managed to sort this year when they actually hit the ground running with ton of problems. At least there is time for next years problems ..

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

I think you have underestimated all the "next years".

Bad news for you.Current account deficit on average is already less than $14b. Now it is projected to be $12 b for whole year.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I am so excited that PTI will now be able to focus on it's core manifesto. The developing of the human capital in Pakistan. Education, health, housing, justice. As we move forward this will converge nicely with a Pakistan increasingly tied into the emerging hyperpower - China.

Everything looks promising especially now that it looks like mullahs are being tamed. I just hope PM IK get's one more term and that I really thing will take Pakistan to take off point.[/QUOTE]

The Core Manifesto should be ridding the mullahism cancer first in his term going against Rizvi and the TLP goons is a good start also the whole KSA deal was more like KSA looking for friends after the Khashoggi affair the whole "Baki" lets bring you the wonders of "wahhabism" will no longer work no more as Pakistan would basically ask for "show us the money" mentality if you still want friends like Pakistan, as for Synching with China I am all for it the Yanks are synching with the Bangas and Ganga crew so better have good relations with PRC and not pissing it on it over "muh Uighurs" and what not sorry Turkey you are your own on that.Education is needed but you need to bring the mullah menatalty to end so education can gel in with progress, as for housing instead of having rural folks create slums in Lahore,Karachi or Isloo use to untapped small towns and cities to level the population off and set up industry over those small towns and cities.

The word "underestimated" is used so often that it has no meaning. Only three months ago people were saying Pakistan was going to sink. Look what happened. If the government managed to sort this year when they actually hit the ground running with ton of problems. At least there is time for next years problems ..

Gangas,Bangas and Yanks can keep dreaming Pakistan regardless is here to stay

 

[randomradio]

Bad news for you.Current account deficit on average is already less than $14b. Now it is projected to be $12 b for whole year.

It's only been 5 months since the new fiscal started. Give it some more time before the actual numbers are released.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Pakistan finds it hard to make public the conditions tabled by IMF

Rupee had been devalued, power tariffs have already been increased

Only thing left is CPEC agreement details !!!



Shouldn't Plan B have been devised before kicking IMF out ?

to tujhe kya takleef ha hindwany!!!!!!

It will depend upon IMF demands, oil prices and what we hear from UAE. In long run it will depend how much tax revamp , fiscal adjustment and CAD (export/remittance ) are done

Whole forum didnt had inside info on saudi as you had. since when has saudi ever helped us this much..its shocking that they agreed for such big bail out package

Than who knew trump will create an artificial glut in oil prices by lying about iran sanctions

kaka g hum KSA or cheenio ki dosti kra rahy hain cpec k zarye! jaisy amreekio or cheenio ki kraye the cold war main.

 

[ziaulislam]

It's only been 5 months since the new fiscal started. Give it some more time before the actual numbers are released.

numbers are released on monthly basis
Its expected to drop further with oil prices dropping by 30% but might remain stable due to spending

Secondly Pakistan oil imports will drop by 33% due to shifting to LNG from oil

 

[valkyr_96]

Given that the IMF package was needed during PMLN tenure and they passed the buck to PTI.....I hope this does not become a case of PTI passing it on to the next government. We have to understand that nothing underlying has changed. The IMF so called "conditions" are reforms which we have always preferred to be thrust upon us. We have upcoming commitments and the loans was simply meant to spread out the payments over a longer and manageable time.