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Pakistan has been stumped in last 2 years

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Title may be wierd , however this is what i have started to believe in watching the so called "geopolitical games" been played in subcontinent. here it goes: (considering all gossips to be true from all sides)

We will have to go back 3 years to understand this, major infitration in Indian Kashmir, very high terrorism in India, 2007-8 were considered to be bloody in terms of terrorism. India was helpless, only thing it could do was seal borders , increase vigilance , increase security in Kashmir , Delhi, Mumbai, bith Delhi and Mumbai were having regular attacks with support from groups in Pak / Bdesh with support of ISI.

Then entered US (after fighting a loosing battle in Afganistan). Allowed India to set up intelligence and support centers in Afghanistan.
India had Money and political necessity to end violence in its cities, so needed ally's in subcontinent.

Mounting pressure from America to attack SWAT and other Taliban breeding grounds, Some sections of ISI (who had interest in ensuring safe haven of taliban stays ..to protect their interst in Afganistan and the drug money keep flowing). attacked Mumbai (26/11), to invite India and Pakistan stand off , similar to one in 2002. However this time India could (with help of FBI) figure out intent of the attack. hence took the diplomatic route instead of an more likely direct action against terror camps.
I remember when there was a virtual Media war , the Taliban said they will fight along with Pak army if India dare attack same Baitullah said. you can watch videos on You tube from 2008.

India there after adopted and what is still its stand that you punish Hafiz sayed forget the rest, but he is key. but justice system even if they know he is involved cannt punish , Pakistan cannot punish him w/o direct evidence valid in court to punish him (Justice system is same in Ind/Pak ..same old colonial legacy) we all know.

What is India to gain out of not talking.

1. No talks on any issues including Kashmir
2. Talks on water sharing etc all on hold.
3. Dont blame india on Baluchistan or consulates in Afganistan
4. Pakistan's image stays as one with protecting terrorists.
5. There can be no attacks on India at least with Pak approval, bec that will further question its intent. On the contrary Pakistan has to proactively ensure that some one else does not use its soil to attack India.
6. Worst case if India is attacked , US and NATO will be at Paksitans throat.
7. After ISI / Pak influence diminished, India got its eastern neighbour Bangladesh acting proactively to arrest and hand over north eastern terror groups and cracked down on Huji.(India managed to get a friendly govt in B'desh).

Bottom line... Thanks to British lousy colonial justice system , India has stumped Paksitan.

Pakistan needs to play another game now with another batsman. :cheesy:

Pls see these are my personal views they may not be true.
 
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Interesting way to look at things..... considering today's geopolitical scenario.....things seem to be going India way...for now....
 
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its because of attitude of pakistan from 1947 they have negative attitude thats why they are lossing ever thing

now india and china are growing because they have positive attitude
 
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Pakistan has played other games too in past, like spreading communal disharmony funding SIMI. But this country is so diverse that ethnicity is above religious beliefs. Like a Kashmiri Muslim is so different then a Tamil or Keralite muslim.

as MJ Akbar (Editor in TOI) says - Idea of India is bigger then an Indian , however that is not true in case of Pakistan.
 
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You cannt divide India, bec. for doing that first you have to unite it. LOL!!!!

India is an example of Unity in diversity.
 
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Chaloo jee Shabashay, after reading this entire post i just cant stop laughing just like Taimi. i must commend the Indian media and politicans for brainwashing the Indian public quite well, they will believe anything they say.
 
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Chaloo jee Shabashay, after reading this entire post i just cant stop laughing just like Taimi. i must commend the Indian media and politicans for brainwashing the Indian public quite well, they will believe anything they say.

Dear.....I must admit the post was bit offensive. Since it was initiated by an Indian member therefore it is obvious to be seen in a different light as well.

Frankly speaking....the post was so-called summary type of thing which consist number of topic, each is discussed in detail on this forum.

IMO, there was no requirement for this thread. What Pakistan does, is responsibility of Pakistani citizens only. This is all internal issues of Pakistan. If this affect India in any way, India is also free to develop corresponding policies. India has no say on other issues and vice versa.

Waste of bandwidth....:coffee:
 
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Why three years? Why not look at Pakistan's post-Musharraf performance against terrorism?

We liberated Swat from the clutches of Indian terror groups
We foiled all Afghan-Indian attempts from mustering support against Lahore
Balochistan's attacks are no longer hitting key places that India would've wished to bomb like Gwadar, Sui
Sovereignty has been restored in half of FATA
America's insistence that we leave pro-India groups and focus attacking on anti-Nato forces didn't work. We first took care of pro-India groups.

India has gained one major victory in post-Musharraf scenario. And that is the attack on the SL team. That too happened because of Zardari's political ambitions against the Sharifs who had initially provided top notch security for SL.

All in all in the Post-Musharraf scenario, India's biggest gain has been Zardari, from the Army's side however, Pakistan's been improving leaps and bounds.
 
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Guys, get this in your heads, we as ordinary people may like and want peace between the two nations, but the people in power, incharge of things don't want it to happen, on both sides.

Each other has stabbed each others back whenever an opportunity has arisen. That has happened in the past, its happening in the present and it will happen in future too.

So whatever Indians or Pakistanis wish, things will not go that way.

What future has in hold for us, is just a guess.
 
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yes its right normal peoples are just normal but you know some thime normal peoples change the histroy
 
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Why three years? Why not look at Pakistan's post-Musharraf performance against terrorism?

We liberated Swat from the clutches of Indian terror groups
We foiled all Afghan-Indian attempts from mustering support against Lahore
Balochistan's attacks are no longer hitting key places that India would've wished to bomb like Gwadar, Sui
Sovereignty has been restored in half of FATA
America's insistence that we leave pro-India groups and focus attacking on anti-Nato forces didn't work. We first took care of pro-India groups.

India has gained one major victory in post-Musharraf scenario. And that is the attack on the SL team. That too happened because of Zardari's political ambitions against the Sharifs who had initially provided top notch security for SL.

All in all in the Post-Musharraf scenario, India's biggest gain has been Zardari, from the Army's side however, Pakistan's been improving leaps and bounds.

Sir....nothing is verified. Just conspiracy theories. few are busted even.
However if Pakistan wish to believe in them, they have all right to do so.
 
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Sir....nothing is verified. Just conspiracy theories. few are busted even.
However if Pakistan wish to believe in them, they have all right to do so.
Indians creating a thread from India how India has stumped Pakistan, I'm just taking forward the same assumptions.

They are fully believed in Pakistan, India has to be transparent about its activities in Afghanistan.
 
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