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Pakistan goes topsy turvy over Tutti Fruitti


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Saba Qamar in 'Qalabaaz Dil'


Thanks to Bollywood, item numbers have gained huge popularity in contemporary cinema. Even some Pakistani film-makers have jumped onto the bandwagon because of the cultural similarities between the audiences of the two countries.

But film-maker Jami Mahmood’s recent statement about item numbers has triggered an interesting debate in Pakistan, about whether or not local productions should incorporate them or not. “I am against the item number culture; it’s a blasphemy to the profession,” said the Moor director. “I don’t understand the difference between a film director who convinces a girl to dance in an ‘item number’ for the big screen and a pimp who convinces a girl to dance in a red light area. The only difference I see is poor lighting and arrangement.”

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Ayesha Omar in ‘Tutti Fruiti’

According to Jami, the main issue is that no one else seems to have a problem with the concept. “Item numbers are one of the reasons misogyny has increased in conservative countries like India.” Jami has provoked Pakistan’s film fraternity into re-thinking over item numbers and what they do for cinema as a whole.

“I don’t know… I really don’t have a problem with a song-and-dance number. It’s been done for so long that it has become part of our culture and syntax,” Manto film-maker Sarmad Khoosat told The Express Tribune. “But I do have an issue when we call it an item number and its sole purpose, which is to provide cheap thrills. I mean, if you were to call Madhuri Dixit’s Ghagra song an item number, I don’t mind it. But if you’re adding it to sexually objectify someone and using it as a cheap stunt, then there is a problem.”

Nonetheless, Sarmad believes this debate should cover more than just item songs. “It’s not even only about item numbers. I have a problem with everything that’s done in films and TV to merely objectify someone,” he asserted.


Film-maker Nadeem Beyg echoed Sarmad’s sentiments, confessing that he was not against song-and-dance sequences either. “I’m against vulgarity, though, be it in the form of item numbers, dialogues or scenes. I don’t think Pakistani films need item numbers because not one of them has succeeded because of that,” he said. “All the successful films had other elements which made them successful. I can cite a thousand examples of item numbers in Punjabi cinema but those films didn’t work. Vulgarity doesn’t sell anymore.”

As far as Jami’s statements go, Beyg said he didn’t have the right to tell anyone what not to do. “Everyone has the right to express themselves the way they want and I can’t tell someone not to put in item numbers, even though I don’t agree with them. Regarding what Jami said, I think he gave a very generic statement because it’s not about item numbers but rather selling vulgarity,” said the Jawaani Phir Nahi Aani helmer.



“So a dance number purposefully done is not the issue, but if the film-maker’s sole purpose of it is selling the film, then there is a problem. Jami mustn’t generalise and put all film-makers in one category but highlight other forms of vulgarity as well.”


Lollywood veteran Syed Noor has a contrasting opinion on the matter. “I am in support of item numbers because when a girl dances in the rain, the audience enjoys it. It increases the recall value of the song and the film itself,” the director said at a recently held panel discussion. He was of the opinion that item numbers were an old phenomenon, citing the original Zaalima Coca Cola Pila De song by Noor Jehan as an item number.

Janaan director Azfar Jafri also spoke on the same note, saying item songs were not a new phenomenon. “They have been used in cinema for decades. I mean, there was an item number in Sholay as well but it had a purpose,” he said. “We are just not using item numbers correctly nowadays. If an item number is required for the story, then it’s justifiable to use it. But if it’s just used to sell the film and add glamour, then it’s not.”

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Billi Mehwish Hayat Full Item Song HD


After this song this kids mom hit him with flying chappals
 
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Banda chawal marey to soch samajh key

Hamain to nahi dikha shayad apki ankhein kharab hein

2 saal guzar gaye hamari industry revive ho gayi Indians ki chawlain na badlien
Did I say anything wrong? Are my eyes deceiving me. Or wait.. Do you mean to say that this stuff is not imported and actually represents Pakistani culture?
 
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They are known as "kanjar and kanjarian". They don't represent Pakistan's culture and when the real representatives of the public take over this vermin will be dispatched to hell.
I disagree with the Indian and i disagree with you everyone was issuing fatwas on JPNA movie it turned out to be the highest earner of Pakistan industry in history the public is the consumers films like this is made because of public demand for them just compare earning of romcoms with serious movies you will get the answer
Did I say anything wrong? Are my eyes deceiving me. Or wait.. Do you mean to say that this stuff is not imported and actually represents Pakistani culture?
Not all of it is imported the only new thing is the costumes and picture quality anyone who disagrees with me can google old pashtu and punjabi films this topic was discussed to death 2 years ago i dont wish to revive the settled debate again

Oh zalima
ARY awards zindabad :D

They don't represent Pakistan's culture
But this does represent the Pakistani film industry a lot of folks stopped watching Pakistani movies in the early 2000,s and mid 2000,s but i watched the content it was similar only quality was lower and actresses were fat nothing else was difference if you want me to i could show you videos from late early 90,s that are similar

I am a true Lollywood fan i watched so many movies from jeera blade to ayeina i know a thing or two about its evolution
 
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I disagree with the Indian and i disagree with you everyone was issuing fatwas on JPNA movie it turned out to be the highest earner of Pakistan industry in history the public is the consumers films like this is made because of public demand for them just compare earning of romcoms with serious movies you will get the answer

Mere dost shaikh sahab, we both know it very well that this is not the culture of even 0.1% of the people in Pakistan and vast majority of the people do not approve it. We cannot let every decide on the public demand.
Drugs and narcotics are very much in demand in the every part of the world so why do the govts not allow their people to just do drugs?
Pakistani good quality drama is watched by much wider audience and I have watched some very old PTV dramas on CDs, DVDs like Alpha Bravo Charlie, Angar Waaadi, and I found them really good and still clean from most of the filth and obscenity.
The movie that is credited with revival of film industry in Pakistan is called "Waar" and luckily I have watched it and I didn't see the director relying on such cheap tactics to attract audience because the story was good and it was an action film and action films are normally popular round the globe. But those require higher bugdets and highly skilled actors and staff.
Similarly, money is not an object either. First of all, I have to admit that I don't follow movie industry so I'm not aware of any such figures but if you claiming please share a reference. However we cannot let this vulgarity and lewdness to be shown to our impressionable public just because the industry is earning some money because if we accept this argument now then some will come and tell us to allowpornographic material too because that makes even more money than the "romcom" so what would you say then?

Not all of it is imported the only new thing is the costumes and picture quality anyone who disagrees with me can google old pashtu and punjabi films this topic was discussed to death 2 years ago i dont wish to revive the settled debate again
It does not matter whether it is old or new...it is bad and it needs to stopped period.

If we invest in making good movies on great subjects with novel ideas, scientific facts and fiction, some nice action, good dialogues...people will love. I'm not against the entertainment or film industry per se but I'm against the vulgarity and obscenity that some people are trying to proliferate in the society. And if we let them do that and they keep forging ahead with their malacious agendas, the society with spring back and they those anti-social elements will be publicly punished by none other the people themselve and I'm afraid then all kinds of entertainment may get blocked.
 
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Mere dost shaikh sahab, we both know it very well that this is not the culture of even 0.1% of the people in Pakistan and vast majority of the people do not approve it.
If they dont approve it who are the people watching these movies?
We cannot let every decide on the public demand.
So you wish to act differently than the rest of the world hmm we tried it in Zia era it resulted in destruction of our industry
Drugs and narcotics are very much in demand in the every part of the world so why do the govts not allow their people to just do drugs?
Because the govt wants full control on the narcotics trade :D
Pakistani good quality drama is watched by much wider audience and I have watched some very old PTV dramas on CDs, DVDs like Alpha Bravo Charlie, Angar Waaadi,
Back then we only had one channel and the competition was zero
The movie that is credited with revival of film industry in Pakistan is called "Waar" and luckily I have watched it and I didn't see the director relying on such cheap tactics to attract audience because the story was good and it was an action film and action films are normally popular round the globe. But those require higher bugdets and highly skilled actors and staff.
Yes it was responsible for the revival of our industry but when we look into details you get an answer Pakistanis like romcom genre

Language Worldwide Gross Ref.
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Jawani Phir Nahi Ani 2015 Six Sigma Plus Urdu Rs494 million (US$4.9 million) [1]
2 Waar 2013 MindWorks Media Urdu, English Rs346 million (US$3.3 million) [2]
3 Bin Roye 2015 MD Films Urdu Rs307 million (US$3.0 million) [3]
4 Actor In Law 2016 Filmwala Pictures Urdu Rs305 million (US$3.0 million) [4] [5] [6]
5 Janaan 2016 IRK Films Urdu, Pashto Rs300 million (US$3.0 million) [7]
6 Ho Mann Jahaan 2016 The Vision Factory Films Urdu Rs217.5 million (US$2.1 million) [8] [9]
7 Choorian 1998 Pak Nishan Films Punjabi Rs200 million (US$4.4 million) [10] [11]
8 Bol 2011 Shoman Production Urdu Rs168 million (US$1.98 million) [12] [13]
9 Wrong No. 2015 YNH Films Urdu Rs157 million (US$1.57 million) [14]
10 Khuda Kay Liye 2007 Shoman Production Urdu, English Rs150 million (US$2.51 million) [15] [16]
11 Na Maloom Afraad 2014 Filmwala Pictures Urdu Rs125 million (US$1.25 million) [17]
12 Karachi Se Lahore 2015 Showcase Films Urdu Rs100 million (US$1.0 million) [18]
13 Bachaana 2016 Big Film Entertainment Urdu Rs100 million (US$1.0 million) [19] [20]
14 Lahore Se Aagey 2016 Showcase Films Urdu Rs90 million (US$0.90 million) [21]
15 Jalaibee 2015 Redrum Film Urdu Rs85 million (US$0.85 million) [22] [23]
16 Maalik 2016 Media Hub Urdu Rs70 million (US$0.70 million) [24]
17 3 Bahadur: The Revenge of Baba Balaam 2016 Waadi Animations Urdu Rs70 million (US$0.70 million) [25]
18 3 Bahadur 2015 Waadi Animations Urdu Rs67.5 million (US$0.67 million) [26]
19 Zindagi Kitni Haseen Hay 2016 RC Films/Kingfisher Films Urdu, English Rs65 million (US$0.65 million) [27]
20 O21 2014 One Motion Pictures Urdu, English Rs59.2 million (US$0.59 million) [28]
Similarly, money is not an object either. First of all,
It is the biggest object for success of a film industry we need movies that attract the public and earn money they have to compete with Bollywood where budgets are higher
industry is earning some money
So you want it to go back to the 2006 level when it was nothing?We have to accept the view people will not pay money to see a movie if it doesnot give what the competition does either we tolerate this or say bye bye to the new industry and surrender to the competition
proliferate in the society.
Its already here you just had a very sheltered life you couldnt see the second layer of our hypocritical society
the society with spring back and they those anti-social elements will be publicly punished by none other the people themselve
وہی لوگ جنھوں نے اپنی بیٹیوں کی شادی پر منی بدنم ہوی لگانا ہے؟میرا موں نا کھلواؤ یہاں انڈینز ہیں
@The Sandman @Hell hound
I'm afraid then all kinds of entertainment may get blocked.

Phir to sab sey pehly lari aday band hotey :D
 
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