Pakistan does not ‘cooperate in anti-terrorism activities’, claims Abdullah Abdullah

[volcano]

I responded to this point in post #15:

If the Taliban don't elect a new leader, who is Afghanistan going to negotiate with?

Keep in mind that the currently elected leader, Mullah Mansoor, who is being challenged by hardline Taliban factions, is the one who was strongly in favor of peace talks. Afghanistan and Pakistan both need his leadership to be recognized by the majority of the Taliban, because the alternatives are those in favor of endless conflict.

This is why these Taliban leadership meetings have been facilitated, and Ghani has been at the fore-front of pushing Pakistan to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table. Without a new Taliban leadership amnabke to dualog, there is no one to bring to the table, and if Ghani thought the war could be won militarily in a reasonable time frame by the ANA, with its existing resources , he, the US and China would never have pushed for peace talks to begin with.

Just some bullshit excuse. If terrorist organisation didn't have a unifying leader, then its bad for the country fighting againist it!!! wow.. It amuse me to see the way pakistanese are trying to justify their action. If talibitchs doesn't have a unifying leader, only logical conclusion is leadership crisis infighting and talibitches loosing their momentum againist afgan army.
But what pakistan doing is alowing them to regroup, unify and make them powerful again. Thats exactly what pakistan done when the sensored mulla omars death. Pakistan knew taliban will loose momentum and group will get scattered due to leadership crisis if mulla omers death become public.

 

[fatman17]

dear mr Abdullah Abdullah first venture out beyond the limits of Kabul then talk about who is cooperating or not. first fix the problems with your inept and corrupt afghan security forces then come and talk to us.

 

[chhota bheem]

We say Moody is a terrorist do you agree? If not, we don't care as you either.
And since when Pushtoons of Pakistan and Afghanistan are bound to clarify their matters to Indians ?
It's purely Afghanistan, Pakistan's thing.

Please dont disrespect pushtoons and their culture,we are talking about terrorists here.and terrorists dont have culture.

 

[I.R.A]

Please dont disrespect pushtoons and their culture,we are talking about terrorists here.and terrorists dont have culture.

What was / is USA's definition of terrorist for drone strike?

 

[!eon]

Please dont disrespect pushtoons and their culture,we are talking about terrorists here.and terrorists dont have culture.

Since how long you have been sympathizers of Pushtoons? What are we to you? We are not taking your dictation and definition of terrorist. A nation, whose PM is a terrorist, wants to give lectures on anti-terrorism. No, thanks. Keep it to you. We don't need your lectures.

 

[slapshot]

Please dont make a fool out of yourself,update youself.there is lot happening which you should update yourself with.

Its you making fool of yourself like most of your fellow countrymen on this forum who run everywhere like headless chickens. Talibans are also present in Qatar and they too are participating in selection of new leader. Its not Pakistan creating problem but current wave shows the issues between Afghan Taliban themselves. These events are show of power to Afghan GOVT by new leader showing that he has the control of fighting force.

 

[Sine Nomine]

if action against ttp is solution enought,why cant action aginst taliban solution enought,Afanistan accuses Pakistan of helping thses talibs in Pakistan thats what is being said by Afgan govt yesturday.

Afghan Taliban have 90% Pashtun Belt support,see the Map i attached. TTP has no Local support the time when Govt started Ops,locals just left the Area and they were left to be dealt with force.
Do you really think we are helping , they are attacking ANA and ISAF from Pakistan and US will remain silent?wouldn't take any Action?
The truth is that Afghan officials cant even move between Kandahar and Kabul without heavy escort.It is simply easy to but blame on others and don't work.

Forget about ANA capabilities thats not your problem,what you have to do is not let the taliban fall back into the areas of Pakistan and launch attacks inside Afganistan when they get chance again.

With heavy influence on non-Pashtun and 100% support of Pashtuns+100% hold of Rural Pashtun,Uzbak,Nuristan and Turkman belt.Do you really think they need Pakistani Area to launch any operation?

Wish for Afganistan what you wish for your own country,do you think taliban are good enough for you to share power with them in Pakistan if not dont wish for the same for Afgani brothers.

I know one thing they brought peace into Afghanistan after 1996,You should know that from 1991 to 96 55000 Peoples died in kabul due to struggle for Power in Kabul between different factions of Afghan Government.And still Afghan warlords united with kabul are storing huge caches of weapons to increase there influence,such that US has to destroy weapon caches of a major allie of Abdullah Abdullah.
Furious Protests Erupt as US Raids Afghan Warlord’s Weapons Cache -- News from Antiwar.com
Warlords still rule Afghanistan

Helping Afganistan to stabilise by killing the taliban will create a good will for Pakistan among Afgans and that willl give you stratigic depth in Afanistan.but if you try to achive strategic depth with the help of taliban the you are bringing distruction of Afganistan and Pakistan.

First of all we never desired for any strategics depth in hell hole.
Taliban are no more terrorists they are armed political movement and insurgency.
Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Where ISAF and ANA has failed you think Pakistan will succeed in hell hole?

 

[Hiptullha]

You dont have to go into Afganistan to destroy taliban,all you need to do is destroy the taliban who enter Pakistan.

...And another Indian brainfart. How are we supposed to destroy the Taliban entering Pakistan when the Afghans try to ensure the border remains unguarded and porous. If Afghanistan doesn't want Taliban fighters in Pakistan, recognize the Durand Line and stop shelling Pakistani checkposts set up to ensure fighters don't pass the border.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

OK forget about media,tell me why is Pakistan hell bent for talks between Afanistan and taliban when Pakistan itself won't talk to ttp to bring peace to Pakistan.

@volcano
The Afghans, US and China all want talks, primarily because the ANA is not considered capable enough to comprehensively defeat the Taliban militarily, unlike the Pakistan military.

If the Afghans themselves want talks, why blame Pakistan for helping coordinate and facilitate them?

 

[chhota bheem]

What was / is USA's definition of terrorist for drone strike?

What has US to do with the topic here ,if you are asking if drone strikes is a form of terrorism I am not sure as many have said here on PDF that these strikes happen with the concent of terrorism our establishment and in some cases with the intel provided by your agencies.

...And another Indian brainfart. How are we supposed to destroy the Taliban entering Pakistan when the Afghans try to ensure the border remains unguarded and porous. If Afghanistan doesn't want Taliban fighters in Pakistan, recognize the Durand Line and stop shelling Pakistani checkposts set up to ensure fighters don't pass the border.

And another Pakistani with strange logic who thinks that terrorists need check posts to cross th border ?

 

[I.R.A]

What has US to do with the topic here ,if you are asking if drone strikes is a form of terrorism I am not sure as many have said here on PDF that these strikes happen with the concent of terrorism our establishment and in some cases with the intel provided by your agencies.

Innocent pushtoons got killed in drone strikes, young school going boys were killed, and US labelled anyone of age who can hold a weapon as a potential terrorist, and justified their killing in drone strikes.

It is the Pushtoons who suffered because of drone strikes, because of taliban, because of ops. And you are simply trying to separate Pushtoons from all this.

 

[chhota bheem]

@volcano
The Afghans, US and China all want talks, primarily because the ANA is not considered capable enough to comprehensively defeat the Taliban militarily, unlike the Pakistan military.

If the Afghans themselves want talks, why blame Pakistan for helping coordinate and facilitate them?

Afganistan is just trying to stand on its feet. Its situation is like that of a person who is bankrupt and needs money loan sharks will lend him money but with higher interest ,does he has a choice ,he will take it with the full knowledge that it will get him into more trouble in the future,that's not a help.

Innocent pushtoons got killed in drone strikes, young school going boys were killed, and US labelled anyone of age who can hold a weapon as a potential terrorist, and justified their killing in drone strikes.

It is the Pushtoons who suffered because of drone strikes, because of taliban, because of ops. And you are simply trying to separate Pushtoons from all this.

Oh you guys are unbelievable ,how is the suffering of people different depending on whether he is a pushtoon or Punjabi or any one ,

Afghan Taliban have 90% Pashtun Belt support,see the Map i attached. TTP has no Local support the time when Govt started Ops,locals just left the Area and they were left to be dealt with force.
Do you really think we are helping , they are attacking ANA and ISAF from Pakistan and US will remain silent?wouldn't take any Action?
The truth is that Afghan officials cant even move between Kandahar and Kabul without heavy escort.It is simply easy to but blame on others and don't work.

With heavy influence on non-Pashtun and 100% support of Pashtuns+100% hold of Rural Pashtun,Uzbak,Nuristan and Turkman belt.Do you really think they need Pakistani Area to launch any operation?

I know one thing they brought peace into Afghanistan after 1996,You should know that from 1991 to 96 55000 Peoples died in kabul due to struggle for Power in Kabul between different factions of Afghan Government.And still Afghan warlords united with kabul are storing huge caches of weapons to increase there influence,such that US has to destroy weapon caches of a major allie of Abdullah Abdullah.
Furious Protests Erupt as US Raids Afghan Warlord’s Weapons Cache -- News from Antiwar.com
Warlords still rule Afghanistan

First of all we never desired for any strategics depth in hell hole.
Taliban are no more terrorists they are armed political movement and insurgency.
Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Where ISAF and ANA has failed you think Pakistan will succeed in hell hole?

I appreciate your reply mate ,will reply in detail when I get time or this weekend