Pakistan developing non-strategic nuclear weapons

[xuxu1457]

Infact, I don't think NUKE has chance to use in future war

 

[lightoftruth]

Infact, I don't think NUKE has chance to use in future war

its difficult to understand for few ppl.(those who put all stakes on nukes)

 

[KRAIT]

This news & alarm is for whole world...a radicalized country is piling something which may be overwhelmed by rouge forces any moment ..

Whether they will fall in wrong hands or not is not the question for time being, things aren't that bad and its a fact. Safety of nukes is among the utmost priority. Even if one small yield nuke is taken by radicals then entire world will turn against Pakistan and will take away its nukes or impose sanctions.

They can survive against India but can't against rest of the world or the effects of more stricter sanctions than the last time.

But these news can certainly help India to increase the paranoia in rest of the world and makes its case stronger that Pakistan nuclear program is danger to regional stability.

We all know how paranoid Western countries act.

 

[Icarus]

The War will prove how non strategic is Nasr, The question for India is can SPYDER or AAD and PAD shoot it down as the range of the missile is less than 100KM.... What will be the impact on ground force if it is hot down in the air.

I believe Nasr can be easily neutralized by S 300PMU...

Nasr is meant to neutralize large enemy formations that are thrusting into Pakistani territory, in an attempt to curb their advance. I doubt India will have many missile batteries installed in Pakistani territory or if they will build a road first to carry a mobile missile shield vehicle along with an advancing column of armour in the field of Punjab or the deserts of Rajhastan.

Dude..its a joint venture, opening a wide window of learning & development for new generation of missiles...several countries are interested..dont compare it with your borrowed ones..

Joint Venture=Fancy name for borrowed Tech

Son, you just trolled your own sorry a$$!

 

[fatman17]

WASHINGTON: To enhance its nuclear capability, Pakistan is developing non-strategic nuclear weapons, and thus joining the ranks of countries like the US and Russia, an American think-tank has said.

India, however, not listed among five of the nine-nuclear weapons powered countries that has or is developing non-strategic nuclear weapons, said Hans Kristensen, director of the Nuclear Information Project, and Robert S Norris, senior fellow for Nuclear Policy, in a new edition of Nuclear Notebook.

"At least five of the world's nine nuclear weapons states have, or are developing, what appears to meet the definition of a nonstrategic nuclear weapon: Russia, the US, France, Pakistan, and China," they concluded.

In their report, the two US nuclear scientist wrote that the new weapon, the Nasr, is a 60-km ballistic missile launched from a mobile twin-canister launcher. Following its first test launch in April 2011, the Pakistani military news organization described the Nasr as carrying a nuclear warhead "of appropriate yield with high accuracy," with "shoot and scoot attributes" that was developed as a "quick response system" to "add deterrence value" to Pakistan's strategic weapons development program "at shorter ranges" in order "to deter evolving threats."

"This language, which has been repeated after subsequent Nasr tests, strongly indicates a weapon with a new mission that resembles nonstrategic nuclear weapons," they wrote.

Pakistan is developing non-strategic nuclear arms: US experts - The Times of India

aray baba - old news - how long are you going to 'flog' it.

 

[arp2041]

So does not the Indian "Missile Defense Shield" makes any deference here........???????????

These non-strategic/tactical missiles are not for attacking our civilian population but for attacking our troops, and the important thing to note is that Pakistan will not shy away from using its tactical nukes on it's own territory when the so called "invading Indian troops" gets control of a major part of Pakistani territory. But again this will breach our condition of no first use & than India will be free to use whichever nuclear weapon (strategic/non-strategic) it wants to use, so this will make Pakistani establishment think a thousand times before attacking our troops (even if that means more Pakistani causality than Indians). Anyway our troops are regularly trained in fighting in NBC environment + our missile defence shield is capable of neutralizing any missile threat of range less than 2000km.

+ i always think that Nuclear weapons are more of a psychological weapon than a weapon of actual use, Indian establishment thought earlier that it would be near impossible for the Pakistani establishment to use it's strategic nuke weapons against major Indian cities, but by developing these tactical weapons Pakistan wants to convey a message across the borders that it will not shy away from using it's "Brahmastra" when the time comes (Psy-war at it's best).

 

[mjnaushad]

Just like JF-17???

There was no copy of JF 17 before the project started........ However Brahmos was present before the JV hence borrowed tech. Also search Dhruv and BK117 ..... It will make you clear who is using whom's tech

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Nasr is meant to neutralize large enemy formations that are thrusting into Pakistani territory, in an attempt to curb their advance. I doubt India will have many missile batteries installed in Pakistani territory or if they will build a road first to carry a mobile missile shield vehicle along with an advancing column of armour in the field of Punjab or the deserts of Rajhastan.

Joint Venture=Fancy name for borrowed Tech

Son, you just trolled your own sorry a$$!

Mr. You forgot the modern tactics of Armoured column movement with Air cover and mobile missile batteries... S 300PMU does not require road.. it does not require to be moved into Pakistan soil it can sit in Indian soil and cover half of Pakistan.... Do you want to know the range of PMU....

One Nuke button by Pak leader is end of Pakistan....

 

[Icarus]

Joint Venture=Fancy name for borrowed Tech

Son, you just trolled your own sorry a$$!

Personal opinion..Grand pa

Nope, that's pretty much it. You allege that Pakistan borrowed some other country's tech whereas you publicly admit that you borrowed Russian Tech to get the Brahmos completed. There's no opinion, only fact!

 

[KRAIT]

Next time don't use computer chips and buses for your weapons, metal from foreign country, borrow technology as it is developed by some foreigner and their product is better. Even US uses Chinese parts. Its about decreasing the cost and making advance weapons instead of taking it on ego.

US , USSR did it, China reverse engineered. Technology transfer and absorption is not a few years work but decade long research and development. US took many plans from Russian scientists after USSR disintegration.

Its like saying William Shakespeare was not a genius, all he did is jumbled up words from English dictionary.

 

[somebozo]

How about this as well?

This will be one hell of a strategic assets turning any civilian sea freight liner into a potent defense base in a matter of minutes.

 

[SQ8]

Next time don't use computer chips and buses for your weapons, metal from foreign country, borrow technology as it is developed by some foreigner and their product is better. Even US uses Chinese parts. Its about decreasing the cost and making advance weapons instead of taking it on ego.

US , USSR did it, China reverse engineered. Technology transfer and absorption is not a few years work but decade long research and development. US took many plans from Russian scientists after USSR disintegration.

Its like saying William Shakespeare was not a genius, all he did is jumbled up words from English dictionary.

Apparently he has been accused of stealing folk stories from other lands and turning them into so called original work..
but that is another debate...and not for this thread.

On the topic..
The problem with non-strategic Nukes is that you cannot guarantee that their impact will remain non-strategic.
Using A nuclear weapon on your own soil may give you some form of "moral" high ground on the fact that you defended your own land by destroying it for generations... but then would that response invite a reprisal also on your soil or not is a different question altogether.
After all.. no country accepts thousands of its troops killed in one fell swoop.. and may be very tempted for revenge.

So the Nasr may simply be an antagonist for a similar "tactical" attack on a PAF airbase .. and then Strategic revenge by Pakistan on an Indian target.. and then we have all out nuclear war.
its a precarious gamble...

 

[xyxmt]

Nukes is the best weapon to stop sudden aggression but given that if it is used against India, India's No First Use policy won't matter anymore.

Along with chain reaction IN bombs, there will be chain reaction exchange OF bombs.

Happy MAD Day for then.

how many other nuclear chain reaction do you know about?
if not than we (India & Pakistan) belong to the same human race that walks on two legs has two eyes and two ears.

 

[xyxmt]

The War will prove how non strategic is Nasr, The question for India is can SPYDER or AAD and PAD shoot it down as the range of the missile is less than 100KM.... What will be the impact on ground force if it is hot down in the air.

I believe Nasr can be easily neutralized by S 300PMU...

Yes it can shoot it down with 100% accuracy, can you people sleep now?
India does not have to worry about pakistan missile copies now that they have SPYDER AAD and PAD
India now can flick a fly of her nose when someone mention anything about Pakistani nukes.

The War will prove how non strategic is Nasr, The question for India is can SPYDER or AAD and PAD shoot it down as the range of the missile is less than 100KM.... What will be the impact on ground force if it is hot down in the air.

I believe Nasr can be easily neutralized by S 300PMU...

Yes it can shoot it down with 100% accuracy, can you people sleep now?
India does not have to worry about pakistan missile copies now that they have SPYDER AAD and PAD
India now can flick a fly of her nose when someone mention anything about Pakistani nukes.

Can India tell US and Israel how to defend itself from Nukes so they leave Iran and Pakistan Alone. whats a big freaking deal if India can Protect itself then surely Israel can too

Kutey ki dum be waja nehe Ghalib
kutch to hay jis ke parda dari hay

 

[asad71]

Al-Khalid (MBT-2000) being purchased by Bangladesh and under trail by Sri-Lanka.
JF-17 under trial by a number of countries.

Your argument is flawed.



Link? Proof?

We have already started receiving MBT-2000s we have ordered with China. There are inputs from Ukraine and communication eqpt from the West. Rather heavy for most of BD but these will be deployed in our northern area next to the Siliguri Corridor where the terrain is tankable.