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Pakistan could unleash ‘Ghazwa-e-Hind’ against India,If US troops exit Kabul: Ex- RAW Chief

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Oh yessss, this time ghazwa e hind will definitely come to fruition.
It obviously didn't when America was full blown supporting pakistan but common sense dictates that this time, when pakistan has lost its major ally things will be different.
 
Indians don't be scared:

Amidst reports of the US army pulling 7,000 soldiers from Afghanistan, the White House cleared on Friday that the US President Donald Trump has not ordered the Pentagon to withdraw troops from the war-torn country.



“The president has not made a determination to drawdown US military presence in Afghanistan and he has not directed the Department of Defence to begin the process of withdrawing US personnel from Afghanistan,” said Garrett Marquis, a spokesperson for the National Security Council, in an emailed statement, according to Bloomberg News.

The widely reported decision came more than a week ago after a US defence official, who asked not to be identified discussing the troop plans, said the Pentagon will withdraw 7,000 of about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan.




However, the US commander of international forces in Afghanistan, General Scott Miller, said on Sunday that he hadn’t received any orders to change troop levels.

This was later confirmed by the United States National Security Council (NSC).

Trump to withdraw almost 7000 US troops from Afghanistan

Although this clarification may not be enough to mitigate the anxiety among leaders and senior lawmakers who criticised Trump’s sudden decision last week to begin pulling troops out of Syria, which also prompted US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis to resign.

While he didn’t publicly talk about Afghanistan, Trump repeatedly said in the days following Syria and Afghan reports that he was eager to bring troops home from overseas so he could focus on defending US borders.

Trump has long criticised the 17-year military conflict in Afghanistan, the longest in US history and one that has cost about 2,300 American lives.

Last year he reluctantly agreed to his military advisers’ request to allow about 4,000 more troops to be sent to the country.

According to a July report from a Pentagon watchdog, the US has appropriated about $126 billion for relief and reconstruction, including $78 billion for security since American troops first arrived in Afghanistan in the aftermath of the Sept 11, 2001, terror attacks. The US presence and money, however, haven’t prevented conditions on the ground from deteriorating.

Trump orders full withdrawal of US troops from Syria

Due to the shrinking grip of Kabul government on the country, there has been an increase in civilian deaths and in the production of poppy used to make heroin, according to a report by Pentagon.

Publicly, Trump’s national security team has said its approach was effective. During a trip to Afghanistan in July, Secretary of State Michael Pompeo insisted that Trump’s strategy to fight the Taliban was working. Mattis similarly said earlier this year that Afghanistan was a “tough fight” but the American effort “is working from our perspective.”

Although there was an acknowledgement by General Miller that American firepower could only go so far. In an October interview with NBC News, he said that the conflict “is not going to be won militarily.”

“My assessment is the Taliban also realizes they cannot win militarily,” Miller told NBC. “So if you realise you can’t win militarily at some point, fighting is just – people start asking why.”

Afghan Taliban say will meet US officials in UAE on Monday

Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, in the latest quarterly report, described the military situation as of Nov 30 as being at “an impasse.”

It said that the arrival of additional US advisers this year helped slow “the momentum of a Taliban march that had capitalised on US draw-downs between 2011 and 2016,” and that the Afghan forces “remain in control of most of Afghanistan’s population centres and all of the provincial capitals, while the Taliban control large portions of Afghanistan’s rural areas, and continue to attack poorly defended government checkpoints and rural district centres.”

The decision to withdraw comes amid talks between American officials and Taliban representatives in the United Arab Emirates, joined by officials from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the UAE, aimed at bringing a more lasting peace to Afghanistan.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1877071/3-trump-hasnt-ordered-troops-withdraw-afghanistan-official/
 
Yes, some of the Afghan mercenaries can be redirected against India in Kashmir. But it is not something India will not be able to handle. However India and its interests is at a disadvantage in Afghanistan.
 
Indians don't be scared:

Amidst reports of the US army pulling 7,000 soldiers from Afghanistan, the White House cleared on Friday that the US President Donald Trump has not ordered the Pentagon to withdraw troops from the war-torn country.



“The president has not made a determination to drawdown US military presence in Afghanistan and he has not directed the Department of Defence to begin the process of withdrawing US personnel from Afghanistan,” said Garrett Marquis, a spokesperson for the National Security Council, in an emailed statement, according to Bloomberg News.

The widely reported decision came more than a week ago after a US defence official, who asked not to be identified discussing the troop plans, said the Pentagon will withdraw 7,000 of about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan.




However, the US commander of international forces in Afghanistan, General Scott Miller, said on Sunday that he hadn’t received any orders to change troop levels.

This was later confirmed by the United States National Security Council (NSC).

Trump to withdraw almost 7000 US troops from Afghanistan

Although this clarification may not be enough to mitigate the anxiety among leaders and senior lawmakers who criticised Trump’s sudden decision last week to begin pulling troops out of Syria, which also prompted US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis to resign.

While he didn’t publicly talk about Afghanistan, Trump repeatedly said in the days following Syria and Afghan reports that he was eager to bring troops home from overseas so he could focus on defending US borders.

Trump has long criticised the 17-year military conflict in Afghanistan, the longest in US history and one that has cost about 2,300 American lives.

Last year he reluctantly agreed to his military advisers’ request to allow about 4,000 more troops to be sent to the country.

According to a July report from a Pentagon watchdog, the US has appropriated about $126 billion for relief and reconstruction, including $78 billion for security since American troops first arrived in Afghanistan in the aftermath of the Sept 11, 2001, terror attacks. The US presence and money, however, haven’t prevented conditions on the ground from deteriorating.

Trump orders full withdrawal of US troops from Syria

Due to the shrinking grip of Kabul government on the country, there has been an increase in civilian deaths and in the production of poppy used to make heroin, according to a report by Pentagon.

Publicly, Trump’s national security team has said its approach was effective. During a trip to Afghanistan in July, Secretary of State Michael Pompeo insisted that Trump’s strategy to fight the Taliban was working. Mattis similarly said earlier this year that Afghanistan was a “tough fight” but the American effort “is working from our perspective.”

Although there was an acknowledgement by General Miller that American firepower could only go so far. In an October interview with NBC News, he said that the conflict “is not going to be won militarily.”

“My assessment is the Taliban also realizes they cannot win militarily,” Miller told NBC. “So if you realise you can’t win militarily at some point, fighting is just – people start asking why.”

Afghan Taliban say will meet US officials in UAE on Monday

Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, in the latest quarterly report, described the military situation as of Nov 30 as being at “an impasse.”

It said that the arrival of additional US advisers this year helped slow “the momentum of a Taliban march that had capitalised on US draw-downs between 2011 and 2016,” and that the Afghan forces “remain in control of most of Afghanistan’s population centres and all of the provincial capitals, while the Taliban control large portions of Afghanistan’s rural areas, and continue to attack poorly defended government checkpoints and rural district centres.”

The decision to withdraw comes amid talks between American officials and Taliban representatives in the United Arab Emirates, joined by officials from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the UAE, aimed at bringing a more lasting peace to Afghanistan.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1877071/3-trump-hasnt-ordered-troops-withdraw-afghanistan-official/


10 times the size of Pakistan and stil shitting in their pants.. Come on India, have some balls ⚽
 
10 times the size of Pakistan and stil shitting in their pants.. Come on India, have some balls ⚽
LOL, great post dude.

But even after shitting her dhoti, she is also arrogant with it.

We get it India, you are a bigggg country with a big economy and bigggg ego and that makes you think that you can bully your smaller neighbours but remember the bigger they are the harder they fall!
 
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Dhotis are getting wet :)

Even after loosing four wars.

If US troops exit Kabul, and the Taliban holds sway, Pakistan could unleash ‘Ghazwa-e-Hind’ against India
We could soon see America leave Afghanistan's brutal war half-finished. The implications of this will be dreadful for ordinary Afghans. This is no good news for India either.

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A soldier with the Afghan National Army standing in a truck at an outpost

Source: Andrew Renneisen / Getty Images
Nearly forty years ago, on Christmas Day in 1979, Soviet tanks and troops were airlifted into Kabul — in what became a bloody battle between ‘godless’ Communists on one side, and Islamic mujahedeen backed by the West, Pakistan, the Emirates and Saudi Arabia on the other.

If the 1980s were the years of what ultimately came to be known as the Afghan jihad, the 1990s were the years of civil war, with the Taliban triumphant in Kabul.

The 21st century has seen the results of an unending US-led ‘Global War on Terror’, located in Afghanistan, among other Muslim countries. The Afghans were punished for their location — while Pakistan rewarded for its. This also makes it the longest war that any country has faced in modern times.

Today, most people, when they talk about the situation in Afghanistan, also refer to it as ‘America's longest war’. No one really considers that the helpless Afghan population has been subjected to an endless war, which has inflicted unimaginable deprivation and depredation for nearly 40 years.

Afghans have been punished for being on the crossroads of superpower rivalry, and for no fault of theirs, while the narrative has been that these wars were for their ‘liberation’ from the Communists in the 1980s, and ‘emancipation’ during the dark days of the Taliban and Al Qaeda in the 21st century.

The WTC attack in New York was by Saudis mostly. The Taliban were sheltering Al Qaeda — and the Pakistan Deep State was sheltering and assisting the Taliban.

Afghanistan was the only place where an angered America could afford to exhibit its wrath.

Americans fought in the wrong place, Afghanistan, with wrong and inadequate means. They were helped by a ‘major non-NATO ally’ — as President Bush referred to Pakistan, which was double-crossing them even as the Americans paid handsomely in billions of dollars for this duplicity.

There were never enough troops on the ground to defeat and hold territory gained.

Wars were fought from the comfort of air-conditioned consoles thousands of miles away — where soundless blips on LED screens show collateral damage, but do not record the pain, nor ensure victory.

Excessive reliance on aerial power means that the situation on the ground is adverse and the military situation is in a stalemate. A superpower cannot afford to be in a stalemate, for this actually means defeat.

No wonder today, the Americans are negotiating with the Taliban — whom they had sworn to eliminate — for a safe and honourable exit for US forces from Afghanistan.

The effect of this decision on other regional players is assumed to be of little consequence.

This is a clear exhibition of the ‘America First’ policy of President Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Trump, possibly pursuing a declared (April 20, 2019) date for a negotiated settlement, suddenly announced partial troop reduction even as his representative was speaking to the Taliban and the violence continued unabated. A suicide attack — this year’s 22nd attack in Kabul — accompanied by an attack via unknown terrorists killed 40 persons in Kabul on December 25.

The Taliban denied any responsibility for this attack, so suspicion would then be on the Islamic State, which is believed to be increasing its profile in Afghanistan.

According to The Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) cited by Afghanistan-watcher Frud Bezhan, a journalist with the Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFERL), there have been 44,655 fatalities in Afghanistan from January 1 to December 8, 2018.

These include civilians, government forces and militants. This places Afghanistan ahead of Yemen and Syria — yet, the narrative is about the latter two, even in India.

As the security situation in Afghanistan worsened and the Taliban gained territory, with the US unable to put more soldiers on the ground, this year the US dropped more bombs than in any other year of this war. Withdrawal of ground forces will only mean greater reliance on air attacks.

The cycle of violence increased early in 2018 as the rivalry between the Taliban and the Islamic State spilled out on the streets of Kabul. Dr. Shanthie Mariet D'Souza wrote (Mantraya Analysis, #22 February 22, 2018) that although the government played down these incidents, the insurgents were successful in getting renewed international media attention in this battle of the narratives.

The Taliban also stepped up their activities because of an inadequate government response. The Taliban were now “a decentralised rural insurgency with undiminished ability to target urban centres”. Estimates about how much territory is under Taliban control vary, but it is substantial — even up to 40%.

In the next few months from now, one can expect the Taliban to drag the negotiations while pretending to be earnest about the process, and then come back in the spring of 2019 with renewed vigour.

The Taliban and their mentors, Pakistan, knew they just had to wait it out. This became very clear when President Obama announced in 2009 that the US would leave Afghanistan in 2011. In the immediate future, the Afghan government will possibly yield more ground to the Taliban.

In recent months, very little has been heard about the Haqqani Network. The Pakistanis are possibly keeping it under control for a final assault.

The Taliban have not evolved into a political movement and have remained a jihadi force. It is highly unlikely that the Taliban will accept the present Afghan constitution, and would insist on governance under Islamic law. A Taliban victory after a deal with the US will only bail out the US — without bringing peace to the country. Afghanistan could easily break out into ethnic, sectarian, regional and tribal tensions.

There is also the question of the increasing profile of the Islamic State remnants now in Afghanistan, with their alliances with others. As Andrew Bacevich put it very bluntly, “The United States’ war in Afghanistan began with an illusion that it was incumbent upon the US to liberate and transform that country. The war in Afghanistan will end, as the Vietnam War ended — in shame and abandonment.” (The war in Afghanistan isn't a 'stalemate.' The US has lost.")

There are reports of the Islamic State in alliance with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan and Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan gaining some presence in northern Afghanistan, close to countries like Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, which have had traditionally close ties with Russia. They also have a presence in Nangarhar and Paktika provinces bordering Pakistan. It is possible they will later drift to other pastures east or north.

With the recent discovery of ISIS cells in Delhi and UP, a likelihood of such cells having been established or functioning under the banner of ISIS elsewhere as well would be a matter of great worry for the Indian security apparatus. It is unlikely the Arabs operate them, but merely some locals using the franchise’s name, or induced to do so.

Pakistan may feel the loss of American largesse in case peace negotiations are successful. Pakistan has meanwhile worked out deals with the UAE, Saudi Arabia and China to keep some funds flowing in to lift its battered economy.

There is another possible gain. Russia and China will also show greater interest in affairs in Afghanistan, which would be in line with Pakistan’s interests in Afghanistan, so long as the US is kept out.

There is another aspect that needs to be kept in mind as the Great Game may continue in different forms. US President Trump recently tweeted that the Saudi government had agreed to help finance the rebuilding of Syria. This could be a dual-purpose exercise, which provides business opportunities to American industry to build what they themselves, with Saudi Arabia, first helped destroy. The hope is that this will keep the Russians and China away — or, at least, prevent them from being in control. This plan could be replicated in Afghanistan for the same reasons.

Once the US leaves Afghanistan, it will rapidly lose interest in Pakistan — and even the region. There would be a loss of rent to Pakistan — but it will also see this as an opportunity to strengthen its control in Afghanistan.

For this, it will want to pretend to keep peace with India — it will make all the polite noises about living in peace to keep its eastern border quiet. It can be expected to keep the Khalistan and Kashmir issues on the back-burner until Afghanistan is ‘sorted out’, with its India-specific jihadi outfits intact.

Pakistan will see a Taliban victory in Afghanistan as a vindication of is policies, and both the Taliban and Pakistan will depict this as a victory of the faith over another superpower. This will be enough encouragement to unleash its assiduously nurtured India-specific Ghazwa-e-Hind battalions against India.

We need not be beguiled into believing otherwise.



https://www.orfonline.org/research/...ld-unleash-ghazwa-e-hind-against-india-46870/

Nice one. I wish US exit as faatfas possible so that Pakistan can execute it veey fast. We shall make them forget Gazwa e hind
 
indian throwing their toys out of the pram already thinking Trumps gives 2 $hits about India :lol:

every single indian will be repayed back in afg for what they did to us. India is the mothership of terrorism inside Asia.
But Pakistan is fountain head and address of terrorism.
 
The Indians are shitting in their pants left and right LOL The Indian media is churning such articles like it is judgement day. It is indeed day of reckoning. You always pay for your sins.
 
But Pakistan is fountain head and address of terrorism.
India is the sperm and as well as the egg when it comes to terrorism. no toilets but masters of spreading terrorism.


just ask any of indias neighbours what they think of this hindu terrorist country.

The Indians are shitting in their pants left and right LOL
nothing new for indians. they shit themselves litreally everyday

 
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