Pakistan begins talks with US on coalition support fund

[xyx007]

India's position is already weak in Afghanistan what with the infighting between the Wazdak, Wardak and Hashmat Ghani Ahmadzai who has sided with China and it's development projects in Kuchi land near the Durrand Line with Pakistan.

The US understands Pakistan's concerns and desires. The question is whether the US agrees to it and whether the US can or will do anything about it. Sometimes weakness can be used as an asset. This nexus of America, India, and Afghan Government is weak now. India is running away from Afghanistan not because of Pakistan but becuase of Taliban. So whatever Pakistan leverage have in Afghan Taliban, Pakistan should stand with them and try to resolve the issue of our Muslims brother of Afghanistan and Kashmir. if anyone has doubt on Allah power, look at the victory of Taliban who only belive on Allah help against the mighty army.

 

[Tom M]

When shall we see Pakistani foreign office to tie up Kashmir issue with Afghan issue and solve it in one go, so true peace can come in the region? Pakistan must emphasis solving Kashmir issue with Afghanistan. Because, if the Kashmir issue is not resolved at this stage with the help from the United States, Pakistan will never solve the Kashmir issue. India is the mother of terror in the whole region. To displace India means spending lots of resources. Loosing too much leverage. Making yourself highly vulnerable. Kick India out of Afghanistan first and settle the Kashimir issue. Complete these prerequisites then ask us.

And what are we supposed to do ?? Sit back and watch the show??

 

[RescueRanger]

Sometimes weakness can be used as an asset.

Please explain, one liners really annoy me! I like things spelled out for me, I am getting old and need all the information to form an opinion!

And what are we supposed to do ?? Sit back and watch the show??

Do what you do best! Ghar me ghus ke maro!

Wow, great finding mate.

Don't be bitter sometimes gambits fail!
http://www.atimes.com/india-risks-losing-big-in-afghanistan/

 

[Osiris]

Sort out your own back yard! We have sacrificed enough and don't need a self entitled braggart like you to tell us what we are and aren't entitled to. Sling your HOOK!

Cleaning up after yourself is not a sacrifice. Besides Americans pretty much showed you, what you are entitled too.

If Americans some times pay you to go after a terrorist, it just a bribe for the other option would they them selves coming in, don't mistake it for something you are owed.

 

[RescueRanger]

Cleaning up after yourself is not a sacrifice. Besides Americans pretty much showed you, what you are entitled too.

 

[halupridol]

Before you lecture Pakistan do something about the extremists in your own damn country!

Right-wing Hindu group places INR10 million bounty on Sidhu’s head
https://tribune.com.pk/story/186205...roup-places-inr10-million-bounty-sidhus-head/

The Year of Love Jihad in India
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2017-in-review/the-year-of-love-jihad-in-india

Rajasthan: Muslim labourer hacked to death in Rajsamand district, video goes viral
https://scroll.in/latest/860643/raj...-death-in-rajsamand-district-video-goes-viral

India's struggle with hate on WhatsApp
The Indian government is finding it difficult to regulate content over new technology platforms such as WhatsApp,increasingly being used to incite communal violence in many parts of Uttar Pradesh.

https://www.rediff.com/news/slide-s...a-struggle-with-hate-on-whatsapp/20140813.htm


Two booked for spreading communal hatred via WhatsApp
https://www.hindustantimes.com/mumb...ia-whatsapp/story-IqfJ4CNrttXHtKDwK3b7KK.html

Irfan Habib is right: RSS is another ISIS
https://www.dailyo.in/politics/irfan-habib-rss-isis-religious-intolerance/story/1/7144.html

YOU DON'T GET TO COME HERE AND LECTURE US WHEN YOU HAVE 5000 YEARS OF RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE INGRAINED IN THE FABRIC OF YOUR SOCIETY!

Umm,,logic fail.


I think its time for pdf management to atleast try to gauge the necessary nuances of logical debate present in there staff.

 

[Osiris]

Exactly, cleaning your own mess is not a sacrifice, I didn't see Americans asking Pakistanis to fund their war against Taliban in Afghanistan.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Interesting times ahead

 

[RescueRanger]

Umm,,logic fail.


I think its time for pdf management to atleast try to gauge the necessary nuances of logical debate present in there staff.

My logic is sound, it is your hypocrisy that is a total failure! I have been here since 2008 and seen countless Indians come here and spew venom, most of it baseless and pointless! And you don't get to decide what PDF staff debate about!

Also I see you didn't refute the links I posted? I therefore rest my case!

Thanks for stopping by!

Exactly, cleaning your own mess is not a sacrifice, I didn't see Americans asking Pakistanis to fund their war against Taliban in Afghanistan.

I don't see any Pakistanis there buddy!

 

[Tom M]

Please explain, one liners really annoy me! I like things spelled out for me, I am getting old and need all the information to form an opinion!


Do what you do best! Ghar me ghus ke maro!

Sure, we will do and keep on doing whatever deems fit for us.

Don't be bitter sometimes gambits fail!
http://www.atimes.com/india-risks-losing-big-in-afghanistan/

You should have read the disclamer as well in the above article just provided.

Asia Times is not responsible for the opinions, facts or any media content presented by contributors. In case of abuse, click here to report.

The world doesn't run as per the whims and fancies of Mr. Haroun Mir alone. Well lets wait and see whether wishes were really horses.

 

[halupridol]

My logic is sound, it is your hypocracy that is a total failure! I have been here since 2008 and seen countless Indians come here and spew venom, most of it baseless and pointless! And you don't get to decide what PDF staff debate about!

Thanks for stopping by!

Now now,,,rescuerngr my man,,,dont angry me
Lets see,,,,u gave an indian poster negative here,,,,for whatt,,expressing his views without adding mc bc ??
Thn u want indians to not comment on topic unless we clean our home,,,hmm.U do understand where u r going with this line of argument,,dont u?
U have been here long,n maybe seen long list of trolls,but that doesnt discount the fact that this forum apparently is for debate n discussion,exchange of thoughts,expressing ones POV on a particualr matter.
Definitely not ofcourse for making money out of the hatred of indians n pakistanis.
Yes i do agree u got ur work cut out n all,,,,but whats with tht unconcious/concious bias of urs or the fact that ths discussion is about pakistan n US csf,,definitely not about India,,, u dragged India into it,i dont know how it benefits the discussion.
u dish out negatives to Indian posters just coz it doesnt suit ur narrative while its ok all over the forum for pakistani posters to use bc,mc,randi n what not r those not venomous words,,or do they lose there poison whn directed to indians.
Thus logic fail,,sirjee

 

[RescueRanger]

he world doesn't run as per the whims and fancies of Mr. Haroun Mir alone. Well lets wait and see whether wishes were really horses.

Somehow I just knew that your rebuttal would inolve discrediting the author! Sadly this doesn't wash anymore Mr. Mir is a very balanced writer, but if that doesn't suit your pallet this surely will:

https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/Wb...s-narrative-faces-trouble-in-Afghanistan.html

Also facts are harder to swallow:

NATO ISAF is almost entirely dependent on Pakistani air space and ground lines of communication (GLOCs). The US agreed that using air-bridges was more expensive, but the expense was offset by the saving incurred by not providing Pakistan Coalition Support Funds for the duration that the GLOCs were closed. Currently, the US is predominantly supplying through Pakistan’s air lines of communication (ALOCs). NATO are using Pakistan’s GLOCs to resupply the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF). The Northern Distribution Network [NDN, an alternate supply route pressed into service in 2011] was always a fiasco.

The U.S' withdrawal from JCPOA has jeopardized the viability of Chabahar itself, which will harm Afghanistan’s economic interests over the long term.

The Failed proposed transport route:

Afghanistan is completely dependent on Pakistan, and needs access to warm water, with the absence of Japanese and US interest in Chabahar, the viability of the project is jeopardized. CHINA will fill that void with Belt and Road!

China is needed in Afghanistan for other reasons. Namely, Afghanistan needs a railway. There are already railheads in Iran, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan to which Afghanistan can link up. This means that Afghanistan is close to being connected with rail lines to these neighboring countries.

Now now,,,rescuerngr my man,,,dont angry me
Lets see,,,,u gave an indian poster negative here,,,,for whatt,,expressing his views without adding mc bc ??
Thn u want indians to not comment on topic unless we clean our home,,,hmm.U do understand where u r going with this line of argument,,dont u?
U have been here long,n maybe seen long list of trolls,but that doesnt discount the fact that this forum apparently is for debate n discussion,exchange of thoughts,expressing ones POV on a particualr matter.
Definitely not ofcourse for making money out of the hatred of indians n pakistanis.
Yes i do agree u got ur work cut out n all,,,,but whats with tht unconcious/concious bias of urs or the fact that ths discussion is about pakistan n US csf,,, u dish out negatives to Indian posters just coz it doesnt suit ur narrative while its ok all over the forum for pakistani posters to use bc,mc,randi n what not r those not venomous words,,or do they lose there poison whn directed to indians.
Thus logic fail,,sirjee

If you disagree with my conduct raise it in GHQ not in a thread.

 

[halupridol]

Somehow I just knew that your rebuttal would inolve discrediting the author! Sadly this doesn't wash anymore Mr. Mir is a very balanced writer, but if that doesn't suit your pallet this surely will:

https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/Wb...s-narrative-faces-trouble-in-Afghanistan.html

Also facts are harder to swallow:

NATO ISAF is almost entirely dependent on Pakistani air space and ground lines of communication (GLOCs). The US agreed that using air-bridges was more expensive, but the expense was offset by the saving incurred by not providing Pakistan Coalition Support Funds for the duration that the GLOCs were closed. Currently, the US is predominantly supplying through Pakistan’s air lines of communication (ALOCs). We are using Pakistan’s GLOCs to resupply the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF). The Northern Distribution Network [NDN, an alternate supply route pressed into service in 2011] was always a fiasco.

The U.S' withdrawal from JCPOA has jeopardized the viability of Chabahar itself, which will harm Afghanistan’s economic interests over the long term.

The Failed proposed transport route:

Afghanistan is completely dependent on Pakistan, and needs access to warm water, with the absence of Japanese and US interest in Chabahar, the viability of the project is jeopardized. CHINA will fill that void with Belt and Road!

China is needed in Afghanistan for other reasons. Namely, Afghanistan needs a railway. There are already railheads in Iran, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan to which Afghanistan can link up. This means that Afghanistan is close to being connected with rail lines to these neighboring countries.



If you disagree with my conduct raise it in GHQ not in a thread.

That u know, i wont do,,,just checking on u.
U r better thn most here.
Have a gud day

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

As expected, Indian asses on fire whenever US-Pakistan starts talking. Insecurity at its peak!

 

[Tom M]

Somehow I just knew that your rebuttal would inolve discrediting the author! Sadly this doesn't wash anymore Mr. Mir is a very balanced writer, but if that doesn't suit your pallet this surely will:

https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/Wb...s-narrative-faces-trouble-in-Afghanistan.html

Also facts are harder to swallow:

NATO ISAF is almost entirely dependent on Pakistani air space and ground lines of communication (GLOCs). The US agreed that using air-bridges was more expensive, but the expense was offset by the saving incurred by not providing Pakistan Coalition Support Funds for the duration that the GLOCs were closed. Currently, the US is predominantly supplying through Pakistan’s air lines of communication (ALOCs). We are using Pakistan’s GLOCs to resupply the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF). The Northern Distribution Network [NDN, an alternate supply route pressed into service in 2011] was always a fiasco.

The U.S' withdrawal from JCPOA has jeopardized the viability of Chabahar itself, which will harm Afghanistan’s economic interests over the long term.

The Failed proposed transport route:

Afghanistan is completely dependent on Pakistan, and needs access to warm water, with the absence of Japanese and US interest in Chabahar, the viability of the project is jeopardized. CHINA will fill that void with Belt and Road!

China is needed in Afghanistan for other reasons. Namely, Afghanistan needs a railway. There are already railheads in Iran, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan to which Afghanistan can link up. This means that Afghanistan is close to being connected with rail lines to these neighboring countries.

Seriously what are you trying to convey ???