Pakistan assures US after being warned to ensure security during Obama's India trip

[Folkindia]

So the report (as expected) appears to be baseless and drives that notion home which i had already professed, succinctly- speaking- a figment of india's imagination (putting it politely-your agenda here is obvious sir).

Keeping aside your obvious agenda here. The reporting is true of such a request(putting it politely) as being made.

 

[Koovie]

L O L Indian propaganda at Max.

LOL stupidity and ostrich mentality at Max.

Have you even made the effort to read the first lines? Or are you not capable of understanding the language?

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

For the second- remember when pakistani media planted fake story falsely crediting John Kerry with some statements? - US state department immediately called your bs....where is the denial both from the US and pakistan when entire India media is reporting both the news?.

US warning report baseless, says Pakistan

WASHINGTON: Pakistan has refused to be dragged into a propaganda war, which revolves around an alleged US warning to the country.

In a report sent by their correspondents in Washington, the Indian media reported that the United States had asked Pakistan to ensure there’s no cross-border terror incident during President Barack Obama’s visit to India.

“The Indian media has a tendency to invent and exaggerate things,” said Pakistan’s Ambassador to the US Jalil Abbas Jilani when asked to comment on these reports. “As a matter of fact US Secretary of State John Kerry, who visited Islamabad last week, had deeply appreciated the steps taken by Pakistan against terrorism and extremism.” Ambassador Jilani pointed out that Pakistan had already launched a major military operation in North Waziristan and was also taking similar actions in other parts of the country.

Firstly. that was an expected response.. Secondly, everyone of you guys on both sides are blowing it out of proposition. This is a part of of the security protocol. You have the leader of free world visiting and we want to make sure that there are no incidents of terrorism that come across from Pakistan. Pretty simple and logical if you ask me.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

So the report (as expected) appears to be baseless and drives that notion home which i had already professed, succinctly- speaking- a figment of india's imagination (putting it politely-your agenda here is obvious sir).

The report is not baseless. Forget for momente that the source is Pakistan, had the U.S. state department or White House come out and said so, it would still not be baseless, rather just a cover up of what should have never been made public to begin with i.e. They should have privately relayed the message.

As I stated above, the President of United States is travelling to India. It is but logical to make sure that he does not get pulled into, embarrassed or is targeted during his visit. One of those potential targets are groups from Pakistan.

 

[Folkindia]

Let us await the official US stance. This is all besides the point, if the source cannot be validated in terms of accuracy. Thus far, there is no admissible evidence to explicitly delineate that the US 'threatened' Pakistan. Sure it is not wholly inconceivable that US urged Pakistan to remain vigilant during the Obama visit. But i very much doubt Pakistan was 'grabbed' by its 'collar' and threatened, the recent Kerry-visit drives this notion home.

The report is not baseless. Forget for momente that the source is Pakistan, had the U.S. state department or White House come out and said so, it would still not be baseless, rather just a cover up of what should have never been made public to begin with i.e. They should have privately relayed the message.

As I stated above, the President of United States is travelling to India. It is but logical to make sure that he does not get pulled into, embarrassed or is targeted during his visit. One of those potential targets are groups from Pakistan.

 

[Areesh]

Lol so now Pakistan has assured US for something that was never asked. Indian media is just going to gutters if it was not in the gutters already.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Let us await the official US stance. This is all besides the point, if the source cannot be validated in terms of accuracy. Thus far, there is no admissible evidence to explicitly delineate that the US 'threatened' Pakistan. Sure it is not wholly inconceivable that US urged Pakistan to remain vigilant during the Obama visit. But i very much doubt Pakistan was 'grabbed' by its 'collar' and threatened, the recent Kerry-visit drives this notion home.

I don't like the term threaten.

This may offend your robust defence of Pakistan and and your unrelenting bias towards India- But we do relay our concerns emphatically and politely state the consequences. There are plenty of examples of this between the two countries. When Nawaz approached Clinton during Kargil. When Bush spoke to Musharraf after 911 attacks, when Obama told Zardari and Kayani the consequence of any attack on the homeland found to be have been hatched in Pakistan.

 

[Folkindia]

So you actually believe that after the successful Kerry-visit the US would make such an unprofessional proclamation against Pakistan, in favour of india? I very much doubt the source has any real credibility given india's incessant, virulent propaganda, which it spews against Pakistan is and always has been in full-flow. If there is a degree of doubt about a particular source, we shouldn't swear to it immediately, rather wait for the US government/people at the helm to confirm. As i said previously it is not wholly inconceivable that the US asked Pakistan to remain 'extra-vigilant' during the intended Obama-visit, which the indian media likely pounced upon in order to further propel and spew its on- going rhetoric against Pakistan. I would take anything the indian media professions with a pinch-of-salt, given their less than dire history in fabricating great assertions.

I don't like the term threaten.

This may offend your robust defence of Pakistan and and your unrelenting bias towards India- But we do relay our concerns emphatically and politely state the consequences. There are plenty of examples of this between the two countries. When Nawaz approached Clinton during Kargil. When Bush spoke to Musharraf after 911 attacks, when Obama told Zardari and Kayani the consequence of any attack on the homeland found to be have been hatched in Pakistan.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

So you actually believe that after the successful Kerry-visit the US would make such an unprofessional proclamation against Pakistan, in favour of india? I very much doubt the source has any real credibility given india's incessant, virulent propaganda, which it spews against Pakistan is and always has been in full-flow. If there is a degree of doubt about a particular source, we shouldn't swear to it immediately, rather wait for the US government/people at the helm to confirm. As i said previously it is not wholly inconceivable that the US asked Pakistan to remain 'extra-vigilant' during the intended Obama-visit, which the indian media likely pounced upon in order to further propel and spew its on- going rhetoric against Pakistan. I would take anything the indian media professes with a pinch-of-salt, given their less than dire history in fabricating great assertions.

You don't seem to listen there bud. You seem to be hung up on the antics of how it was said, while I'm trying to tell you what was said. I gave you a historical context to it too.

As a background and surely none of this is should be shocking or some media bias statement to you. I'm not exactly revealing an unknown. We have openly stated for years that we know that Pakistan supports certain terror groups for the purpose of attacking India. We have said that 26/11 was hatched in Pakistan, even provided evidence about it and we have said that elements within the ISI support these anti India terrorist groups.

Now given those realities- There is not just a request for an extra vigilance, but also a clear " make sure none of the groups you support start something to embarrass the President during his visit" . Because the resulting international flap that will take place, will ensure a strong response from the U.S. i.e. in plain speak "don't embarrass us to then force our hand and piss us off".

Now on a side note, a request- I will kindly request since you wear our flags to curtail your trolling. Having a bias is a-okay But you are like a bull in a china shop and are going overboard. It does reflect well on us Americans. You seem to be more worried about others sensitivities than those of our Union and its President. Like I said - to the point of going overboard. Please consider my request to tamp down the kind of language that fills most of your 30 odd posts here.

 

[k_arura]

Islamabad: Hours after the US warned Pakistan of consequences in case of any cross-border terror attack during President Barack Obama's India trip, Islamabad has assured Washington of safety, reports said Monday.

Pakistan's quick assurance to the US comes as just last week US Secretary of State John Kerry visited Islamabad and announced US assistance worth $250 million to the country.

But the aid did not come without a warning as Kerry made it clear that Pakistan must fight militant groups that threaten its neighbours including India.

Just days before Obama is to land in India, the US dished out a clear warning to Pakistan to ensure that no terror activity from across the border should play spoilsport with the President's India visit.

The US has also warned of "consequences" in case of any terrorist attack during Obama's trip if that is traced back to their country, the PTI reported.

The US warning comes in wake of previous instances when Pakistan-based militant groups have carried out attacks in India coinciding with high-profile visits from the US.

Militants had shot dead 36 Sikhs in March 20, 2000, in the Anantnag district of Jammu and Kashmir, coinciding with the visit of the then US President Bill Clinton to India.

Also, a top Indian Army commander had recently warned that Pakistan-trained terrorists are planning to target soft targets including schools and civilian areas ahead of US President Barack Obama's visit later in January.

"Two hundred Pakistani trained terrorists are waiting for an opportunity to infiltrate into India," said Lt General KH Singh.

Meanwhile, as US President Barack Obama is set to grace the Republic Day celebrations by being the chief guest for the parade, New Delhi has turned into a fortress with a seven layer security ring in place around the VVIP enclosure at the venue and the airspace over the area would be monitored by a radar to be specially set up.

The US and Indian security agencies are taking extra care for Obama as he will be on an open air platform at Rajpath for more than two hours, witnessing the parade.

The US forces in Afghanistan are also keeping a close eye on the activities of the terrorist groups in the region. The US Embassy in Pakistan too has been alerted.

Ahead of the presidential trip, there is an unprecedented level of intelligence sharing between India and the US. At least 10,000 paramilitary troops will be deployed along with the 80,000-strong Delhi Police to ensure fool-proof security in and around Rajpath -- the main venue.

Pakistan assures US after being warned to ensure security during Obama's India trip | Zee News

Because India is not crazy just like we in US got scared after 9/11 (and France even more after recent Charlie episode). You have to be crazy NOT to be scared and takes steps if you have monstrous neighbor like India is blessed with!

 

[Folkindia]

It's absolutely apparent that you have a certain agenda here, your anti-Pakistan comments explicitly/unequivocally denote this assertion. Nobody has disagreed with regards to Kargil, 26/11 etc etc. I simply disputed the dubious indian source which was presented as an admissible evidence and some sort of validation. india has and will always have unfavourable views of Pakistan, irrespective of diplomacy or the lack of it. What's more, your apparent failure to address and vindicate india's acute involvement with regards to facilitating terrorism in Pakistan is extremely regretful. It is no state secret that india is overzealously, vociferously aiding and abetting terrorism from Afghanistan into Pakistan in the form of the TTP right through to its support of terrorism in Balochistan, there is much evidence to support this assertion. But given your post history and pungent bias for india, you will conveniently overlook this. india had recently started to propagate inconclusive findings on the 'terror boat' farce and passed this as fact as to further curtail normalcy. This 'terror boat' nonsensical/propagandist saga was professed and likely played out to drum up sympathy. It is then needless to say, it would serve as no real surprise if there was a false-flag operation coming to the fore in india, in the imminent future. Let us not forget Pakistan is and has always been an ally of the US, it has suffered tremendously at the hands of terrorism with special reference to the countless lives lost and economic downturn, the impact of which is deep rooted in Pakistan today. The scourge of terrorism is being actively fought by Pakistan and its army, It is extremely regrettable that you disdain their fervour and commitment in combating this great menace.

Now to address your concern with regards to the Obama visit, it is certain Pakistan will not allow anybody to use its land to derail the Obama visit. That would be 'political suicide' the incumbents are well aware of this. If the US is gravely concerned about terrorism in Pakistan, one would suggest the obvious, why does the US not arm Pakistani's with higher grade weapons and systems to combat terrorism?? One possible reason could be the paradigm-shift under which the US looks to woo india with its technological advanced weapons for billions. Thus far, the US has offered nothing of real value in terms of defence equipment to Pakistan, in combating terrorism.

On a side note, you should be concerned with the security of the US, india is not the US and vice-versa, i now hope you would stop derailing the thread by trolling any further. "You seem to be more worried about others sensitivities than those of our Union", adequately and wholly describes your posts. I wish Obama a safe visit and that the scourge of terrorism is defeated everywhere. In addition, i hope you've ascertained that your comments are deep-rooted in being favourably-bias towards india, which is obscuring your ability to reason. Of course the indian media would be your main source of political enlightenment. Yes there would be 'ramifications' for Pakistan if an untoward incident were to occur, nobody has disputed that. Only in your mind. Please consider my request to tamp down the kind of language which you apply in your 'humble' discourse to further your anti-Pakistan agenda.

You don't seem to listen there bud. You seem to be hung up on the antics of how it was said, while I'm trying to tell you what was said. I gave you a historical context to it too.

As a background and surely none of this is should be shocking or some media bias statement to you. I'm not exactly revealing an unknown. We have openly stated for years that we know that Pakistan supports certain terror groups for the purpose of attacking India. We have said that 26/11 was hatched in Pakistan, even provided evidence about it and we have said that elements within the ISI support these anti India terrorist groups.

Now given those realities- There is not just a request for an extra vigilance, but also a clear " make sure none of the groups you support start something to embarrass the President during his visit" . Because the resulting international flap that will take place, will ensure a strong response from the U.S. i.e. in plain speak "don't embarrass us to then force our hand and piss us off".

Now on a side note, a request- I will kindly request since you wear our flags to curtail your trolling. Having a bias is a-okay But you are like a bull in a china shop and are going overboard. It does reflect well on us Americans. You seem to be more worried about others sensitivities than those of our Union and its President. Like I said - to the point of going overboard. Please consider my request to tamp down the kind of language that fills most of your 30 odd posts here.

 

[RescueRanger]

Islamabad: Hours after the US warned Pakistan of consequences in case of any cross-border terror attack during President Barack Obama's India trip, Islamabad has assured Washington of safety, reports said Monday.

Pakistan's quick assurance to the US comes as just last week US Secretary of State John Kerry visited Islamabad and announced US assistance worth $250 million to the country.

But the aid did not come without a warning as Kerry made it clear that Pakistan must fight militant groups that threaten its neighbours including India.

Just days before Obama is to land in India, the US dished out a clear warning to Pakistan to ensure that no terror activity from across the border should play spoilsport with the President's India visit.

The US has also warned of "consequences" in case of any terrorist attack during Obama's trip if that is traced back to their country, the PTI reported.

The US warning comes in wake of previous instances when Pakistan-based militant groups have carried out attacks in India coinciding with high-profile visits from the US.

Militants had shot dead 36 Sikhs in March 20, 2000, in the Anantnag district of Jammu and Kashmir, coinciding with the visit of the then US President Bill Clinton to India.

Also, a top Indian Army commander had recently warned that Pakistan-trained terrorists are planning to target soft targets including schools and civilian areas ahead of US President Barack Obama's visit later in January.

"Two hundred Pakistani trained terrorists are waiting for an opportunity to infiltrate into India," said Lt General KH Singh.

Meanwhile, as US President Barack Obama is set to grace the Republic Day celebrations by being the chief guest for the parade, New Delhi has turned into a fortress with a seven layer security ring in place around the VVIP enclosure at the venue and the airspace over the area would be monitored by a radar to be specially set up.

The US and Indian security agencies are taking extra care for Obama as he will be on an open air platform at Rajpath for more than two hours, witnessing the parade.

The US forces in Afghanistan are also keeping a close eye on the activities of the terrorist groups in the region. The US Embassy in Pakistan too has been alerted.

Ahead of the presidential trip, there is an unprecedented level of intelligence sharing between India and the US. At least 10,000 paramilitary troops will be deployed along with the 80,000-strong Delhi Police to ensure fool-proof security in and around Rajpath -- the main venue.

Pakistan assures US after being warned to ensure security during Obama's India trip | Zee News

BS Indian propaganda!
Spoof news: Neil Armstrong Reveals Shocking Secret About The Moon

^ See what I did there...

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

It's absolutely apparent that you have a certain agenda here, your anti-Pakistan comments explicitly/unequivocally denote this assertion. Nobody has disagreed with regards to Kargil, 26/11 etc etc. I simply disputed the dubious indian source which was presented as an admissible evidence and some sort of validation. india has and will always have unfavourable views of Pakistan, irrespective of diplomacy or the lack of it. What's more, your apparent failure to address and vindicate india's acute involvement with regards to facilitating terrorism in Pakistan is extremely regretful. It is no state secret that india is overzealously, vociferously aiding and abetting terrorism from Afghanistan into Pakistan in the form of the TTP right through to its support of terrorism in Balochistan, there is much evidence to support this assertion. But given your post history and pungent bias for india, you will conveniently overlook this. india had recently started to propagate inconclusive findings on the 'terror boat' farce and passed this as fact as to further curtail normalcy. This 'terror boat' nonsensical/propagandist allegation was professed to drum up sympathy. It is then needless to say, it would serve as no real surprise if there was a false-flag operation coming to the fore in india, in the imminent future. Let us not forget Pakistan is and has always been an ally of the US, it has suffered tremendously at the hands of terrorism with special reference to the countless lives lost and economic downturn, the impact of which is deep rooted in Pakistan today. The scourge of terrorism is being actively fought by Pakistan and its army, It is extremely regrettable that you disdain their fervour and commitment in combating this great menace.

Now to address your concern with regards to the Obama visit, it is certain Pakistan will not allow anybody to use its land to derail the Obama visit. That would be 'political suicide' the incumbents are well aware of this. If the US is gravely concerned about terrorism in Pakistan, one would suggest the obvious, why does the US not arm Pakistani's with higher grade weapons and systems to combat terrorism?? One possible reason could be the paradigm-shift under which the US looks to woo india with its technological advanced weapons for billions. Thus far, the US has offered nothing of real value in terms of defence equipment to Pakistan,
In combating terrorism.

On a side note, you should be concerned with the security of the US, india is not the US and vice-versa, i now hope you would stop derailing the thread by trolling any further. "You seem to be more worried about others sensitivities than those of our Union", adequately and wholly describes your posts. I wish Obama a safe visit and that the scourge of terrorism is defeated everywhere. In addition, i hope you've ascertained that your comments are deep-rooted in being favourably-bias towards india, which is obscuring your ability to reason. Of course the indian media would be your main source of political enlightenment. Yes there would be 'ramifications' for Pakistan if an untoward incident were to occur, nobody has disputed that. Only in your mind. Please consider my request to tamp down the kind of language which you apply in your 'humble' discourse to further your anti-Pakistan agenda.



Now given those realities- There is not just a request for an extra vigilance, but also a clear " make sure none of the groups you support start something to embarrass the President during his visit" . Because the resulting international flap that will take place, will ensure a strong response from the U.S. i.e. in plain speak "don't embarrass us to then force our hand and piss us off".

Now on a side note, a request- I will kindly request since you wear our flags to curtail your trolling. Having a bias is a-okay But you are like a bull in a china shop and are going overboard. It does reflect well on us Americans. You seem to be more worried about others sensitivities than those of our Union and its President. Like I said - to the point of going overboard. Please consider my request to tamp down the kind of language that fills most of your 30 odd posts here.

Bull in china shop

Holy Mother of God! You took a topic -a security related concern to ( India's attitude- TTP- India facilitating terrorism- To US not giving enough of weapons- The U.S at fault that terror groups exist in Pakistan -to terror boats- to a monumental meltdown). And because I did not address those off topics here I have a "pungent" bias? That was creative I guess.


This is the image that comes to mind from reading your post. ( confession: I couldn't handle reading it all and had to skim through it)

 

[Folkindia]

Exactly as i thought you have nothing to offer to this thread, except your mindless/endless low-quality trolling. Find your medication grandpa nobody wants to read your ill-informed, erroneous fairy tales about another nation. You have this knack of summing yourself up perfectly "If you think you are bringing any smart debate to represent what is obviously your motherland (india), favourably. You are not, I promise you". Yes mr US_statedept_retired, you have no proof or evidence, you are failing to string together a coherent argument, which was to be expected from a low-quality (indian) troll, who has been politically enlightened by dire indian media outlets.

On a side note "The US at fault for terror groups in Pakistan" where in my post was that stated exactly??, this is a reflection upon you as a person and your agenda. You can continue to exhaust your erroneous fact-finding mission up your ignorant backside. You are doing a disservice to the US with your 'fox newsesque' delusions of grandeur. India facilitates terrorism in Pakistan, it is a fact. Both your indian heritage and/or your indian bride wont allow you to break-free from the shackles of being inherently- favourably disposed towards india. You cannot refute facts sir. Now jog along troll.

Bull in china shop

Holy Mother of God! You took a topic -a security related concern to ( India's attitude- TTP- India facilitating terrorism- To US not giving enough of weapons- The U.S at fault that terror groups exist in Pakistan -to terror boats- to a monumental meltdown). And because I did not address those off topics here I have a "pungent" bias? That was creative I guess.


This is the image that comes to mind from your post. If you think you are bringing any smart debate to represent what is obviously your motherland, favourably. You are not, I promise you.

Just to reiterate a general point, if folks are going to use indian media outlets as their main source of political enlightenment, thus, Pakistani sources should hold equal weight with reference to validity and accuracy. One cannot simply justify the use of one outlet and pass the other as baseless and attribute it to 'low quality journalism'. Either provide coherent, explicit, unequivocal, unbiased and unambiguous sources or feel free to put the keyboard down and think through your accusations within your posts.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Exactly as i thought you have nothing to offer to this thread, except your mindless/endless low-quality trolling. Find your medication grandpa nobody wants to read your ill-informed, erroneous fairy tales about another nation. You have this knack of summing yourself up perfectly "If you think you are bringing any smart debate to represent what is obviously your motherland (india), favourably. You are not, I promise you". Yes mr US_statedept_retired, you have no proof or evidence, you are failing to string together a coherent argument, which was to be expected from a low-quality (indian) troll, who has been politically enlightened by dire indian media outlets.

On a side note "The US at fault for terror groups in Pakistan" where in my post was that stated exactly??, this is a reflection upon you as a person and your agenda. You can continue to exhaust your erroneous fact-finding mission up your ignorant backside. You are doing a disservice to the US with your 'fox newsesque' delusions of grandeur. India facilitates terrorism in Pakistan, it is a fact. Both your indian heritage and/or your indian bride wont allow you to break-free from the shackles of being inherently- favourably disposed towards india. You cannot refute facts sir. Now jog along troll.

Well, at this time you stuck to one theme, albeit it read like a rendition of the sixth sense - " I see Indian people"

Pretty much accused us for the continued existence of terror groups in Pakistan when you say " why does the US not arm Pakistani's with higher grade weapons and systems to combat terrorism?? One possible reason could be the paradigm-shift under which the US looks to woo india with its technological advanced weapons for billions. Thus far, the US has offered nothing of real value in terms of defence equipment to Pakistan, in combating terrorism." .

You created the fiasco and you are complaining about why the U.S. won't give you weapons? We give you a lot in military Aid and you have plenty of weapons of your own. It's really not the weapons you need, rather you need do what you are doing in the NWF and continue to expand that to all terrorist organizations, and we mean ALL if you are serious about cleansing Pakistan of these snakes. And I would love to see that happen, back in saddle towards economic gains and much success.
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You are absolutely right when you say we are heavily in favour of India- and if India reciprocates, it will only get stronger not just via military ties, but in investment, trade and economic partnership. If one looks at it objectively, it's a huge market, largest democracy and economic powerhouse to be- has a great young skilled labor force and they are a peaceful lot, with no grand vision of being expansionist. They being seen as a great opportunity is not unique to the U.S. Why would we not look at it favourably, when 99.99% of nations feels the same too.

Meanwhile you can have your meltdown and the only takers will be from like minded minority. Your messaging has no market share If you look around the global community. Got to be frustrating for you and you are barely cracking 40 posts here. Can't wait to read those meltdowns for another 40,