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you must be aware of the issue with the yanks giving licence to Pakistan for T129 engines?
Ukraine is not like the west.
Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.
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Outside from the T-129 export problem discussions, I can only say about the engine projects; just 10 years more and we will make this problem a thing of the past forever.
IDEF'23 will be the most important Turkish defense demonstration ever, not only for aviation engines, but also for a large number of different power groups that are currently under test activities which from 1800 hp tank engines to ramjet propulsion systems, and a wide variety of military propulsion systems. This is currently the most important focus for SSB' subsystem projects. You can find very detailed information about each sub-work area by searching Turkish defense forums on google.
IDEF'23 will be the most important Turkish defense demonstration ever, not only for aviation engines, but also for a large number of different power groups that are currently under test activities which from 1800 hp tank engines to ramjet propulsion systems, and a wide variety of military propulsion systems. This is currently the most important focus for SSB' subsystem projects. You can find very detailed information about each sub-work area by searching Turkish defense forums on google.
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The T-129 is an Italian-Turkish joint development product. The ATAK-2 is an indigenous development program owned by the SSB and run entirely by TAI.
Authorized name announced: ATAK 2's engines will be produced in Turkey
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TUSAŞ Helicopter Deputy General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu announced that the Ukrainian engines planned to be used in the ATAK-II Helicopter will be produced in Turkey.
The Ukrainian origin engine of the Heavy Class Attack Helicopter ATAK-II will be produced in Turkey. TUSAŞ Helicopter Deputy General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu, who was the guest of Rana Mubashir's program on the Pakistani Aaj channel with TAI General Manager Temel Kotil, announced that the engine of the T929, or ATAK II heavy class attack helicopter, will be produced in Turkey.
Upon the question, Demiroğlu stated that the T129 Atak helicopter is not completely domestic, but Ukrainian engines will be produced in Turkey in the T929 project. Since there is no domestic and national engine alternative, its engine comes from Ukraine. Temel Kotil stated in the past that the T929 will be equipped with 2500 hp engines and will fly in 2023.
ATAK II delivery to TAF in 2025
Turkish Aerospace Industries Inc. General Manager Prof. Dr. Temel Kotil announced in A Haber's "Gendance Special" broadcast that 3 ATAK II attack helicopters would be delivered to the Land Forces Command in 2025.
Answering Defense Turk's questions after the Air and Space Vehicles Design Laboratory opening program in partnership with TAI and ITU, Temel Kotil announced that the naval version of the ATAK-II heavy class attack helicopter would be developed. Temel Kotil, “Will there be a naval version of Atak and Gökbey for ANADOLU LHD? Do you have a calendar in this direction?” to our question, “For now, we are considering the marine version of the ATAK-II.” had made a statement.
Temel Kotil had announced that the 11-ton ATAK II attack helicopter would start its engine and rotate its propellers in 2022. Kotil had previously announced that the engines of the Heavy Class Attack Helicopter ATAK-II would come from Ukraine and that a contract was signed in this context. It was announced that the T929, that is, ATAK-II, is in the 11-ton class and can carry 1,500 kg of ammunition.
T925 utility helicopter will fly in 2024
Temel Kotil, who gave new information about the 10 ton Class Utility Helicopter, of which there is not much information, used the name T-925 in the past when talking about the helicopter.
In the last statement, Kotil stated that the T925 general purpose helicopter will have a capacity of 21 people and a ramp, and announced that the helicopter will have a joint power group with the 11-ton T-929 ATAK-II. The T925 helicopter, which will have a take-off weight of 11 tons, will have a capacity of 5 thousand horsepower (two engines).
The first flight date for the T-925 was stated as 2025, but Kotil pointed to the date of 18 March 2024 for the first flight. In the T925 helicopter, there will be an improved version of the avionics systems of the GÖKBEY helicopter and maybe.
With its components similar to GÖKBEY, especially development and production, and after delivery, the user will be facilitated in processes such as maintenance, maintenance and repair.
It is considered certain that the T925 utility helicopter will be used in TCG ANADOLU together with the T929 ATAK II.
Currently, there is an approach to deploying heavy class attack and utility helicopters on ANADOLU class and similar platforms. In addition to the heavy class higher ammunition / carrying capacity, they can perform tasks in more difficult sea conditions as platforms with high sea stance.
Yetkili isim duyurdu: ATAK 2 'nin motorları Türkiye'de üretilecek - Yeni Akit
TUSAŞ Helikopter Genel Müdür Yardımcısı Mehmet Demiroğlu, ATAK-II Helikopteri'nde kullanılması planlanan Ukrayna motorlarının Türkiye’de üretileceğini açıkladı.www.yeniakit.com.tr
I beleive its wise that We look forward to the next evolution instead of T129!
TAI is currently one of the most important helicopter production centers in the world. It produces not only its own products, but also helicopter fuselages and components for many aviation companies from Airbus to Sikorsky and even KAI.
TAI's roadmap envisages a several-times capacity increase in existing helicopter manufacturing operations. I think there is an important opportunity here for Pakistan as well. TAI's helicopter department aims to become a worldbrand that competes fullscale with manufacturers such as Airbus helicopter, AW and Sikorsky, Bell(Textron) in a decade.
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Hi thanks for such a detailed answer I just want to know how will Ukrainian help Turkey in engine technology as I think yesterday Putin & Erdogan been to Iran as per us axes of evil and obviously Europeans usa will pressure Ukrainian to stall engine thing for a while or indefinitely so better solution for the time being is Russian engine for ATAK 2 for the time being
now im not saying don’t manufacture your own there is a say false or true but china bough major share of Ukrainian engine line
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Joint Stock Company Motor Sich
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| Industry | Aerospace industry Defence |
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| Founded | 1907; 115 years ago |
| Headquarters | Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine |
| Area served | Worldwide |
| Products | Aircraft engines, Turbojet engines |
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| Number of employees | 21,860 (December, 2010)[2] |
| Website | http://motorsich.com.ua |
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Well, not sure how much help Turkey will get from Ukraine, but Ukraine has its own unique relationship with Turkey. Turkey is one of the largest arms suppliers, providing it with likely the single most effective resistance tool used by Ukraine against Russia (TB2 Baraktyar drone)Hi thanks for such a detailed answer I just want to know how will Ukrainian help Turkey in engine technology as I think yesterday Putin & Erdogan been to Iran as per us axes of evil and obviously Europeans usa will pressure Ukrainian to stall engine thing for a while or indefinitely so better solution for the time being is Russian engine for ATAK 2 for the time being
now im not saying don’t manufacture your own there is a say false or true but china bough major share of Ukrainian engine line
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Joint Stock Company Motor Sich
The Motor Sich Joint Stock Company (Ukrainian: АТ «Мотор Січ») in Zaporizhzhia is one of the largest engine manufacturers for airplanes and helicopters worldwide. It manufactures engines for airplanes and helicopters, and also industrial marine gas turbines and installations.
Central entrance to the Motor Sich plantIndustry Aerospace industry
DefenceFounded 1907; 115 years ago Headquarters Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine Area served Worldwide Products Aircraft engines, Turbojet engines Net income Total assets Number of employees 21,860 (December, 2010)[2] Website http://motorsich.com.ua
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Turkish heavy attack helo breaks cover
27 APRIL 2023by Gareth Jennings
A view of the ATAK 2 heavy attack helicopter, being developed for the Turkish Armed Forces and export customers. (Aytac Unal/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images))
Turkey's new T929 ATAK 2 broke cover on 24 April, with Turkish Aerospace (TA) releasing new imagery and information on the heavy attack helicopter to coincide with its first engine run trials.
The new imagery was released by TA and the Turkish Defence Industry Agency, which are both developing the T929 to equip the Turkish Armed Forces and potential export customers. These provided the first real-world close-up look at the helicopter (concept imagery had previously been released, as had interviews with programme officials that showed the helicopter in the background), which is expected to make its maiden flight in the coming weeks.
Following the same stepped tandem-cockpit, stubbed wing, and fixed tailwheel-type landing gear configuration of most other dedicated attack helicopters, the T929 is essentially a heavier (8–10 tonnes) and larger version of the TA T129 ATAK helicopter that it is intended to replace in service with the Turkish Armed Forces.
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According to TUSAS Helicopter Deputy Director Dr Demir'olu:
- TAI is now an authority in chopper design and manufacturing for all apps and tonnage
- The Ukranians are offered to manufacture their engines for ATAK-2 in Turkey under any arrangement they like
- TEI may design and manufacture engines for T-929
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