Pakistan Army Aviation Corps - Updated

[ghazi52]

 

[Reichsmarschall]

@DESERT FIGHTER @airomerix @Tipu7 @PanzerKiel @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Caprxl @Foxtrot Alpha @Slav Defence @Sulman Badshah

The first two have landed in Pak Watan. The deliveries have started. Who will be posting the first pics?

Any recent picture?

 

[fatman17]

PAA

 

[Raja Porus]

I think we should wait for 23rd march for this news to be either proved or debunked

Any recent picture?

 

[Incog_nito]

3 different platforms having 90 pieces while mission profile remains almost same. American, Turkish and Chinese, all having different engines and parts. 2 of these can share weapon systems. 2 of these will have MmW radars. All will have different sensors with nearly same functionality. Datalinks of 2 can be be interlinked while Z-10 maybe connected through another interconnecting system giving latency of 1-2 msec. Overhauling time frame could be different. Ground crews will need to specialize in at least two of these while still being able to maintain the 3rd bird. Transitioning from -1F to -1Z could be easier but the other two gunships would be different machines. 90 would mean 6 x Squadrons considering 12 per squadron while others are spare. Current gunship squadrons are 3 so basically doubling the force with better platform and weapon systems.

The fate of 48 x AH-1F has yet to be ascertained. The "jugaroo" way things work in Pakistan, these AH-1F can still be used in COIN Ops. A C4I team in Mi-17 equipped with MmW radar, 2-3 surveillance drones in air and a handful of AH-1F. The Mi-17 and drones guide the AH-1F to targets which takes them out through strafing or rickets or TOW/BS. There is low threat level of SAM/RPG in COIN war. The missing weapon is a FnF Missile. Integration of BARQ missile should have been considered for AH-1F and future gunship platforms.

If these 48 x AH-1F are not retired instead divided amongst I,II and V Corps as dedicated assets, this would give the Corps HQs more flexibility and firepower instead of requesting for gunships through Aviation Command or GHQ or Regional Command.

The need of transport heli will always be there. RVFC is providing mules for transport in mountain regions. A transport helicopter with adequate cargo space or sling load capability is a better option. Mules on tracks and trucks on roads in mountains can be a back up or otherwise size/weight restrictions of cargo. A dedicated Med Evac variant of transport helicopter with 4 x stretchers is needed since Field hospitals and specialized medical departments in CMHs are located at central places only.

Almost every US Divisional formation has an aviation brigade having 1 attack squadron and 2-3 transport squadrons. This may not be possible in divisional structure of PA but some Corps HQs can be assigned dedicated assets.

So, this can mean that PAA will acquire only Z-10 & ATAK.

 

[Tomcats]

Any recent picture?

I though the AH-1Z news was debunked by Alan Warnes and other sources?

 

[python-000]

What is the status of new attack helicopters for PA...!!!

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Dazzler]

 

[Signalian]

PAA View attachment 710364

Not sure about the origin of statement, but seen it written with Viet war pics. Instead of hueys, a mix of European and Russian are shown.

 

[Raja Porus]

Mus

Not sure about the origin of statement, but seen it written with Viet war pics. Instead of hueys, a mix of European and Russian are shown.

Must be siachen,kargil

 

[fatman17]

What is the status of new attack helicopters for PA...!!!

Status quo ante

 

[fatman17]

I though the AH-1Z news was debunked by Alan Warnes and other sources?

True

 

[ghazi52]

Fully loaded

 

[CHI RULES]

What shall be role of the MI35s inducted or going to be inducted whether it shall be limited for Anti narcotics which not looks to be exact role or it shall be used in Baluchistan and KP for transport and close support in hot areas. Comments are requested as while discussing gunships their role has been discussed at minimal level so far.