Pakistan Army APC Inventory

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Pakistan should seriously consider getting these from UAE. These are must for forces facing IED attacks on regular bases

UAE would basically be a subcontractor. The OEM is Denel Vehicle Systems in South Africa from whom EDIC imports parts for assembly in the UAE. MVRDE has the LAVA program too.

At this point, MVRDE should get DVS, Paramount Group, Otokar, Tumosan, Nurol - i.e. any one of dozens of experienced companies - to help it design a capable and affordable solution built for Pakistani requirements (i.e. under LAVA) @denel

 

[denel]

UAE would basically be a subcontractor. The OEM is Denel Vehicle Systems in South Africa from whom EDIC imports parts for assembly in the UAE. MVRDE has the LAVA program too.

At this point, MVRDE should get DVS, Paramount Group, Otokar, Tumosan, Nurol - i.e. any one of dozens of experienced companies - to help it design a capable and affordable solution built for Pakistani requirements (i.e. under LAVA) @denel

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Thanks Bilal. For UAE and others, it is knock down assembly kits which are sent over; on our revenue books for last year, it was showing as export.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

At this point do u have any info through public sources or ur own "sources" inside military circles about LAVA.

Also when u say "Light Armored" does that mean an

UAE would basically be a subcontractor. The OEM is Denel Vehicle Systems in South Africa from whom EDIC imports parts for assembly in the UAE. MVRDE has the LAVA program too.

At this point, MVRDE should get DVS, Paramount Group, Otokar, Tumosan, Nurol - i.e. any one of dozens of experienced companies - to help it design a capable and affordable solution built for Pakistani requirements (i.e. under LAVA) @denel

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ied protected vehicle or a vehicle more like the HMVEE???

 

[Zarvan]

At this point do u have any info through public sources or ur own "sources" inside military circles about LAVA.

Also when u say "Light Armored" does that mean an

ied protected vehicle or a vehicle more like the HMVEE???

IED protected. This is MRAP

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

At this point do u have any info through public sources or ur own "sources" inside military circles about LAVA.

Also when u say "Light Armored" does that mean an

ied protected vehicle or a vehicle more like the HMVEE???

In all likelihood, it's a 8-11 ton 4x4 akin to the NIMR Ajban 440A or Nurol NMS. It probably won't look as cool as those, but the aim is similar (e.g. a good and adaptable light armoured vehicle). Just my speculation though, but based on fact, e.g. the fact that UROVESA demoed a Humvee-like vehicle at IDEAS in reference to some bid.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Man!!!
Thats what u get when u have military drones running the show without input from industrial sector. I have found that most American/Western weapons are cool looking and also perform most effectively and vice versa.

In all likelihood, it's a 8-11 ton 4x4 akin to the NIMR Ajban 440A or Nurol NMS. It probably won't look as cool as those, but the aim is similar (e.g. a good and adaptable light armoured vehicle). Just my speculation though, but based on fact, e.g. the fact that UROVESA demoed a Humvee-like vehicle at IDEAS in reference to some bid.

 

[JPMM]

For the Portuguese Army, in competition its the UROVESA ST5 and the Katmerciler Hizir.
The Spanish is 6000kg and the Hizir is 16000kg. They are on the same cost and armour protection category, the Hizir is biger with 9 seats, the ST5 is 5 seats. We will probably shoose the ST5, we need it for the Rapid reaction forces (Paratroopers/Commandos/Special Op) and so the ST5 is lighter and the factory is right here north of Portugal in Galiza. The ST5 was allready tested in Pakistan? I think the answer is yes. But for the Pakistan needs the Hizir was the best, you want it as a Patrool Vehicle, both have V-Shaped hull, but the Hizir is biger.

http://www.janes.com/article/73338/nato-receives-bids-from-spain-and-turkey-for-portuguese-4x4-vehicle-project

 

[python-000]

IED protected. This is MRAP

Hi sir, i am python new induction & i have 1 question in my mind if we have a better home made HAMZA MRAP & we can make it much better like that.

 

[Zarvan]

Hi sir, i am python new induction & i have 1 question in my mind if we have a better home made HAMZA MRAP & we can make it much better like that. View attachment 426140

Yes it can be improved like this

 

[denel]

For the Portuguese Army, in competition its the UROVESA ST5 and the Katmerciler Hizir.
The Spanish is 6000kg and the Hizir is 16000kg. They are on the same cost and armour protection category, the Hizir is biger with 9 seats, the ST5 is 5 seats. We will probably shoose the ST5, we need it for the Rapid reaction forces (Paratroopers/Commandos/Special Op) and so the ST5 is lighter and the factory is right here north of Portugal in Galiza. The ST5 was allready tested in Pakistan? I think the answer is yes. But for the Pakistan needs the Hizir was the best, you want it as a Patrool Vehicle, both have V-Shaped hull, but the Hizir is biger.

http://www.janes.com/article/73338/nato-receives-bids-from-spain-and-turkey-for-portuguese-4x4-vehicle-project

pa... ST5 is flat bed it is based on humvee; not V. you need to have min of 25 deg V. Please check Mamba/RG3x series.

 

[JPMM]

www.infodefensa.com/wp-content/uploads/FuturoMRAP.pdf
page 45, its in spanish

Unveiled in 2012, the Vamtac S3 shared more commonalities with its European cousins the AMPV or the Sherpa. It had a larger engine and was recognizable for a redesigned grille. The rest of the improvements were to protect its crew. A v-hull was installed to deflect powerful blasts. The cab was turned into a modular “capsule” with spall lining. Windows and doors were replaced with reinforced material offering STANAG-level protection.


URO Vamtac ST5’s in desert configuration.

https://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2016/10/28/armored-cars-uro-vamtac/

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Many countries have turned their regular transport truck into mraps. Maybe we could do the same with Hino and Nissan trucks that we have???? Or maybe even Mercedes Unimog trucks???? @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @fatman17 @Path-Finder @DESERT FIGHTER

 

[Path-Finder]

Many countries have turned their regular transport truck into mraps. Maybe we could do the same with Hino and Nissan trucks that we have???? Or maybe even Mercedes Unimog trucks???? @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @fatman17 @Path-Finder @DESERT FIGHTER

yea but where is the will and the thinking for it? No one is stopping anyone from doing it except yourself. a few bunch of engineers and mechanics got together in a shed in Devon and Created the Jackal for the British army. Why cant few civilians get together and carry out something for their armed forces?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

So true. Most people who have requisite qualities dnt have resources or investors to back em up. Those who do have everything needed dnt bother.

yea but where is the will and the thinking for it? No one is stopping anyone from doing it except yourself. a few bunch of engineers and mechanics got together in a shed in Devon and Created the Jackal for the British army. Why cant few civilians get together and carry out something for their armed forces?

I think we can make a killer badass mrap based on unimogs.

 

[Path-Finder]

So true. Most people who have requisite qualities dnt have resources or investors to back em up. Those who do have everything needed dnt bother.


I think we can make a killer badass mrap based on unimogs.

Yea Unimog has already been turned into a MRAP by South Africa over 4 decades ago called Buffel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffel