Pakistan Air Force - Past, Present & Future [Mission Kashmir]

[Beskar]

@Horus @Dubious @Major Sam @war&peace @Hakikat ve Hikmet

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

All roads from Pak meet in Kashmir....

 

[Genghis khan1]

Pakistan have to have a contingency plan to pump out JF-17 like m&m candies. Overwhelm the enemy by constant replacements and share numbers. Stretch your enemy defense thin. Their fancy Rafael, will break apart or will be out of service for an overhaul just trying to cover bogus alarms one after another, 100's of miles apart.

 

[loanranger]

Pakistan have to have a contingency plan to pump out JF-17 like m&m candies. Overwhelm the enemy by constant replacements and share numbers. Stretch your enemy defense thin. Their fancy Rafael, will break apart or will be out of service for an overhaul just trying to cover bogus alarms one after another, 100's of miles apart.

When are we going to start pumping these jf 17 out....currently at our best we do 12 a year!

 

[Genghis khan1]

When are we going to start pumping these jf 17 out....currently at our best we do 12 a year!

Pakistan gotta producers 25 here n 25 in China atleast 4 to 6 jet per month during war.

 

[Sine Nomine]

When are we going to start pumping these jf 17 out....currently at our best we do 12 a year!

No,at peak we can produce 24 JFT'S an year.

 

[Imran Khan]

nice video thanks for shear sir

 

[loanranger]

No,at peak we can produce 24 JFT'S an year.

Oops sorry yes ,you are right.

 

[Beskar]

Pakistan have to have a contingency plan to pump out JF-17 like m&m candies. Overwhelm the enemy by constant replacements and share numbers. Stretch your enemy defense thin. Their fancy Rafael, will break apart or will be out of service for an overhaul just trying to cover bogus alarms one after another, 100's of miles apart.

We're still doing much better than our adversary and the entire region at large. What we require is consistency and growth, the pace doesn't matter since we have nuclear missiles to compensate for Air Force's numbers.

To clarify: Short range tactical nukes could be used to decimate and flatten enemy airbases rendering their numbers useless in times of war.

nice video thanks for shear sir

Thanks mate cheers

 

[Genghis khan1]

We're still doing much better than our adversary and the entire region at large. What we require is consistency and growth, the pace doesn't matter since we have nuclear missiles to compensate for Air Force's numbers.

Missiles are force multiplier and can compensate some aspect of the Air power, but switching reliance from Airforce to missiles is a flawed idea.

 

[GriffinsRule]

There are good reasons to produce 12 jets a year. Do you guys think Dassault could not produce the Indian order of 36 in just a year if they really wanted to? Of course they could. But what would they do afterwards? Sit idle and lay off their employees?
This relates to every weapon manufacturer. For PAC, this is true just as much. So say we build 50 aircraft a year and violla in 5 years we have all 250 we need. What is PAC to do next? Wait for 5 more years sitting by waiting for those aircraft to come in for overhaul? And if they have similar usage/airframe hours, that means 50 aircraft would also then need to be out of service each year as they go through overhauls? Is that not a pretty risky proposition too?
Secondly, even if PAF were to magically have another 100 JF-17s tomorrow, that means retiring some aircraft before their useful life? In simpler terms, it would be like buying a new car every 4 years when a new model comes. Sure, some countries/people can afford to do that, but Pakistan we well all are very well aware of, does not have that luxury.
Producing 12 aircraft a year also has given us space to learn more about the jet, fix and update things as they come up and steadily increase the expertise of the people involved in this manufacturing. Its not a bad thing to build just 12 a year.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think as Pakistanis we must first respect each other's opinion and help correct each other if the opinion is drastically wrong

With that stated , Pakistan need to invest in all 3 formats of Military, plus a new branch going forward

• Airforce
• Military
• Navy
• Special Forces

The Airforce must be capable of handling their own affairs offence and defense
The Military must be ready for handling their own offence and defensive needs
The Navy should be able to handle offence and defense

And in all honesty a honest push has been made to keep the 3 branches updated with the Navy finally getting more attention in recent years

• No War in history has been ever won alone on Missile Power , of course we have nuclear missiles that is a different matter but traditional thought is to maintain a Airforce

The people and will power is the most important element and then the tools of war

 

[Arsalan 345]

pakistan needs more fighter jets.i think now numbers matters against india.nobody will fire nuclear weapon.this is wrong assumption.we must prepare for conventional war.recent indian aggression and rafale induction shows that they are preparing for a war.

 

[MastanKhan]

When are we going to start pumping these jf 17 out....currently at our best we do 12 a year!

Hi,

I an surprised that you have not learnt it by now---.

Paf never wants to have FULL NUMBERS---because it knows that army will start a fight with india and air force would be asked to pitch in full time---.

 

[The Eagle]

First of all, this is not the place to settle issues based upon some personal likes or dislike. Secondly, personal attacks & use of unethical language to insult someone on personal grounds; is not appreciated nor encouraged.

As always said, discuss content on the basis of knowledge & facts findings instead of person to be discussed precisely. Be it the Think Tank or any other member; attacks below the belts are more like a reverse impact than to the targeted person.

@MastanKhan if you have a case in regard to your findings against any title holder in view of Forum Repute & discussion building; being a senior member, you do know the way to discuss such issues and where to reach. An open forum mudslinging lie this is not appreciated.

On the topic in hand in regard to N missile and PAF, the word compensate is the key in that statement. Compensate means that worst come worst, you do have N offensive as last resort and mentioning of the same while possessing such capability is a high deterrent in full blown war. Even though, both points of Air-Force to N missile have a huge gap which will be filled by other weapons deployment but to me, that seems to be a short cut version to make a point without getting into much of details which are known to the mostly posters. Like I read that, I will calculate midway course of action before reaching the N point. I can be wrong in calculation but the start is A and it ends at Z which is exactly the case in statement.

We can disagree by proving our point of view or analysis based upon knowledge & findings which is correct way of discussion. Getting personal without offering much onto subject in hand; is not feasible nor plausible.

I will advise both of you to act with patience.

Regards,