Pak Politicians Move Musharraf and the Military, Not Against Terrorists

[batmannow]

Honourable Sir,

You were probably not even born in 1971 but I was right in the middle of it. Whether you believe it or not, I was in Pakistan and have heard ZAB saying:

“Udhar tum, idhar hum”. Meaning you there and us here.

ZAB had boycotted the session of the Assembly called by Yahya Khan and said “Assembly ka ijlas attend karney waaley PP logon ki taangein toar doon ga”. Meaning I will break the legs of Peoples Party MNA’s who dare to attend the National Assembly session.

I respect ZAB because he was victim of a judicial murder and also because ZAB was without doubt the most clever political leader of Pakistan after the Quaid, but he was also egocentric, megalomaniac and dictatorial. His tearing up of the Polish resolution which suggested a ceasefire with India to allow for the evacuation of Pakistani soldiers from Dacca was nothing but a drama and the most hypocritical act I have ever seen. East Pakistan was lost any way but ZAB storming out of the Security Council Session resulted in 100, 000 Pakistani soldiers suffer Indian jails for a couple of years.

Please read Hamoodur Rahman report again and all of it. I have read it and it clearly blames politicians as well as the military. That is why ZAB dared not let it become public.

my dear, sir!
musharaf or militry of pakistan were made as targets cause they dont hve any powers to defend themselves politicly?
they will never do as what could hve happened , if our so called democratic gods, could hve taken out a single word by thier disgusting mouths against TTp?
nobleness been made a sin, & sinners are in power?

 

[krash]

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.

This man has been portrayed as an angel by the media and PPP, but you cannot deny that he had an integral hand in the breakup of Pakistan. Have you seen a civilian martial law administrator anywhere else?

Then threats of breaking the legs of those who went to Bangladesh....and many more.

Is hamam main sub nangay hain.

Have we forgotten the nationalization of the industries in Pakistan on the neanderthal ego of his? The one before which Pakistan was counted amongst the largest and fastest growing industrial hubs of Asia? Have we forgotten how he ruined the PIA and the Railways? The corruption he brought with himself? The years of political manipulation to serve his own personal needs? The assassinations of his opponents? Meh....seems we have. Bhutto aj bhe zinda hai, hum sab mein zinda hai aur hamara yahi masla hai.

 

[batmannow]

Have we forgotten the nationalization of the industries in Pakistan on the neanderthal ego of his? The one before which Pakistan was counted amongst the largest and fastest growing industrial hubs of Asia? Have we forgotten how he ruined the PIA and the Railways? The corruption he brought with himself? The years of political manipulation to serve his own personal needs? The assassinations of his opponents? Meh....seems we have. Bhutto aj bhe zinda hai, hum sab mein zinda hai aur hamara yahi masla hai.

A lesson to be learnt , with all that mess created on the name of democracy, there is not many left in bhutto,s own family?
if someone ever wana be a bhutto, he or she shouldbe ready to go down under, their graves ?
sooner before, they would be made a king ,,for the kingdoms they may hve created for them selves?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

The military is the biggest terrorist within Pakistan.

They lost East Pakistan.
They hung a democratically elected Prime Minister.
They lost Siachin Glacier.
They toppled a democratically elected Prime Minister.
They lost Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

Why the heck do they get the biggest chunk of the budget for year after year?

It's about time an example is made out of the military.

The biggest terrorist is your mindset - which aims to vilify the military and turn people against it. Serves only the agenda of the enemies of Pakistan

Gen (r) Musharraf whether you like him or not is a former army chief and he's a war veteran. The bloody gap toothed politicians I don't care which party they are from they won't dare to lay a hand on him. They should be warned.

 

[batmannow]

The biggest terrorist is your mindset - which aims to vilify the military and turn people against it. Serves only the agenda of the enemies of Pakistan

Gen (r) Musharraf whether you like him or not is a former army chief and he's a war veteran. The bloody gap toothed politicians I don't care which party they are from they won't dare to lay a hand on him. They should be warned.

Fear is NO Policy
Surrender is NO Option
سب سے پہلے پاکستان

 

[RiazHaq]

Thousands of Pakistani security personnel, including soldiers and policemen, have paid with their lives in the line of duty for their fellow citizens. They are the unsung heroes of Pakistan who have received little recognition by the Pakistani leaders and the national media. An exception is a recent Associated Press news story which features several Pakistani soldiers who have lost their limbs or suffered brain injuries in fighting the Taliban.

Captain Qasim Abbas had finished a six-month stint fighting the Taliban close to the Afghan border and was heading home to get engaged when the militants struck, ambushing his convoy, pitching his vehicle off a 90-foot cliff and leaving him with brain injuries that make speaking and walking a daily battle. Abbas and the other soldiers recovering at Pakistan's only military rehabilitation hospital are a testament to the human toll from Pakistan's fight against Islamist militants. Their plight receives little attention from Pakistani politicians, possibly because they are afraid of associating themselves with an unpopular fight that many citizens see as driven by the United States. "Fight, fight, keep fighting," Abbas said slowly but with purpose when asked if he had a message for his colleagues still battling the Taliban. He raised his fist in the air to drive home his point.

Captain Kaleem Nasar was part of an operation elsewhere in the northwest in January of this year when he stepped on a bomb. The explosion blew off one of his legs, and the other had to be amputated below the knee. He visited the rehab hospital recently so doctors could work on his artificial limbs. Despite his injuries, he does not regret going to war against the Taliban and hopes he can return to active duty. "I am satisfied I have done something for my country," said the 27-year-old soldier. "If I can go back to that area and serve my country, God willing I will."

But Waheed, the head of the hospital, is worried that Pakistani troops wounded in battle don't receive enough recognition in the country. None of Pakistan's civilian leaders or other politicians have visited the hospital in the five years he has been running it, he said. 'They need much more recognition because they have done so much sacrifice for the cause,' said Waheed. Waheed contrasted the lack of political attention in Pakistan with a visit he made to Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the U.S. in April. He was there for only five days but saw a stream of officials and reporters come to the facility to meet with U.S. soldiers wounded in Afghanistan and Iraq, he said.

Haq's Musings: Eid Mubarak; Please Don't Forget Terror Victims

 

[Sedqal]

the analysus by riazhaq is very strong, the paindus have just started what they have been doing last time around and believe me zardari was thousand times more intelligent then nawaz shareef

nawaz has big masters, saudi arab masters, america

i remember how this paindu bowed before bill clinton when he made the state visit after kargil and how it was like a slave master relationship

musharraf came and people desparately supported the dictator

needs to address these situations like law and order, security other wise the state and federal will become weaker

i can predict they wont last one year if they carry on with this

nawaz and his tola will never be the guy who can run the government because he is way too incompetent and foolish retard to do that

- If Zaradri was that smart he wouldn't have dragged PPP to this condition and if NS was that stupid he wouldn't be the PM of this country third time around.

- And what should have been the state position on Kargil? NS is being made the scapegoat of an atrocious decision by Musharraf who assumed that India will keep the clash limited. If I remember correctly Musharraf kept the Navy and Airforce chief in dark about the whole operation.

- Punjab has been free of politics of hatred and has fared well in economy and overall security during the PMLN tenure. You certainly are very judgmental with terms like panidus, retard and slave/master.

Fear is NO Policy
Surrender is NO Option
سب سے پہلے پاکستان

Fear is no policy - yeah right

 

[darkinsky]

- If Zaradri was that smart he wouldn't have dragged PPP to this condition and if NS was that stupid he wouldn't be the PM of this country third time around.

- And what should be the state position on Kargil? NS is being made the scapegoat of an atrocious decision by Musharraf who assumed that India will keep the clash limited. If I remember correctly Musharraf kept the Navy and Airforce chief in dark about the whole operation.

- Punjab has been free of politics of hatred and has fared well in economy and overall security during the PMLN tenure. You certainly are very judgmental with terms like panidus, retard and slave/master.



Fear is no policy - yeah right

what ever i say wont satisfy you until you see with your own eyes the horror becoming reality

lets just say in 60 days we saw what PMLN was capable of, everybody thought PMLN and nawaz has changed but let me just say he is fooling you people, when you realise it, it will be too late

 

[batmannow]

- If Zaradri was that smart he wouldn't have dragged PPP to this condition and if NS was that stupid he wouldn't be the PM of this country third time around.

- And what should have been the state position on Kargil? NS is being made the scapegoat of an atrocious decision by Musharraf who assumed that India will keep the clash limited. If I remember correctly Musharraf kept the Navy and Airforce chief in dark about the whole operation.

- Punjab has been free of politics of hatred and has fared well in economy and overall security during the PMLN tenure. You certainly are very judgmental with terms like panidus, retard and slave/master.



Fear is no policy - yeah right

PM of this country, doesnt mean he is the smartest guy alive in pakistan?
crook is there just because of fake votes, & complete controll on local admin in punjab?
take him out, let shabaz be in his place, you will see more votes, from the hands of daaba ustads?lol

 

[Sedqal]

what ever i say wont satisfy you until you see with your own eyes the horror becoming reality

lets just say in 60 days we saw what PMLN was capable of, everybody thought PMLN and nawaz has changed but let me just say he is fooling you people, when you realise it, it will be too late

You simply have no idea what Punjab went through in last five years (electricity & the governor rule). Even in those conditions mandate of PPP was respected and no move to overthrow the govt or bringing in a no-confidence vote was made (that is when PMLN was offered and assured full support by both MQM and PML-Q). There is no way the legitimate right of PMLN to govern till 2018 will be taken away this time around.

As for governance PMLN has an example in shape of PPP. If they won't deliver they will be out in next elections but a coup won;t be happening this time around. Public has elected them and public will decide the next govt, not some lame general getting bored in a DHA villa.

 

[batmannow]

- If Zaradri was that smart he wouldn't have dragged PPP to this condition and if NS was that stupid he wouldn't be the PM of this country third time around.

- And what should have been the state position on Kargil? NS is being made the scapegoat of an atrocious decision by Musharraf who assumed that India will keep the clash limited. If I remember correctly Musharraf kept the Navy and Airforce chief in dark about the whole operation.

- Punjab has been free of politics of hatred and has fared well in economy and overall security during the PMLN tenure. You certainly are very judgmental with terms like panidus, retard and slave/master.



Fear is no policy - yeah right

سب سے پہلے پاکستان
Surrender is NO Option

 

[Sedqal]

سب سے پہلے پاکستان
Surrender is NO Option

That is before or after Musharraf surrendered Pakistan's strategic assets in Afghanistan over one measly phone call?

 

[darkinsky]

You simply have no idea what Punjab went through in last five years (electricity & the governor rule). Even in those conditions mandate of PPP was respected and no move to overthrow the govt or bringing in a no-confidence vote was made (that is when PMLN was offered and assured full support by both MQM and PML-Q). There is no way the legitimate right of PMLN to govern till 2018 will be taken away this time around.

As for governance PMLN has an example in shape of PPP. If they won't deliver they will be out in next elections but a coup won;t be happening this time around. Public has elected them and public will decide the next govt, not some lame general getting bored in a DHA villa.

well PMLN may have unlimited time, but pakistan doesnt have too much time to keep trying nooras and PPP etc, after one or two year they will make pakistani very desperate

the first sign of failure is the absence of the security policy, 60 days have passed and things have infact become worst

one policy which PMLN is working on is how to pull your hands away from duty for every province except punjab

and since after 18th amendment, PMLN will keep working little bit, giving people a few things to make them happy like metro bus and their strategy will be to win as much as in punjab, like before they will keep getting elected

now in this i dont include the entire pakistan's picture

 

[Sedqal]

well PMLN may have unlimited time, but pakistan doesnt have too much time to keep trying nooras and PPP etc, after one or two year they will make pakistani very desperate

the first sign of failure is the absence of the security policy, 60 days have passed and things have infact become worst

one policy which PMLN is working on is how to pull your hands away from duty for every province except punjab

and since after 18th amendment, PMLN will keep working little bit, giving people a few things to make them happy like metro bus and their strategy will be to win as much as in punjab, like before they will keep getting elected

now in this i dont include the entire pakistan's picture

- No one has unlimited time, 5 years is all what an elected Govt will get. Considering we wasted more then 30 years in completely moronic dictatorships its not much.

- PPP failed to make a security policy in five years, PMLN has not been in power for even three months so they will need some time.

- Absolutely not - If you have not forgotten in 18th amendment (in which EVERY party participated) powers have been de-centralized and autonomy has been given to provinces. Police and IB are under provincial control now and the minute PMLN tries to take over it will be blamed for undermining the provincial governments. PMLN can operate easily in Punjab because it is in majority over there.

- Electricity shortage won't be solved by one province neither security (and directly related FDI) problem will be solved by only Punjab. Whole country needs to be free of terrorist threats if Pakistan (including Punjab) is to go anywhere. Chances of PMLN getting in power (in 2018) is directly related to overall condition of Pakistan not Punjab.

 

[darkinsky]

- No one has unlimited time, 5 years is all what an elected Govt will get. Considering we wasted more then 30 years in completely moronic dictatorships its not much.

- PPP failed to make a security policy in five years, PMLN has not been in power for even three months so they will need some time.

- Absolutely not - If you have not forgotten in 18th amendment (in which EVERY party participated) powers have been de-centralized and autonomy has been given to provinces. Police and IB are under provincial control now and the minute PMLN tries to take over it will be blamed for undermining the provincial governments. PMLN can operate easily in Punjab because it is in majority over there.

- Electricity shortage won't be solved by one province neither security (and directly related FDI) problem will be solved by only Punjab. Whole country needs to be free of terrorist threats if Pakistan (including Punjab) is to go anywhere. Chances of PMLN getting in power (in 2018) is directly related to overall condition of Pakistan not Punjab.

lol, gibberish nonsense and more load of nonsense

you guys have a clear majority in the federal, you guys can work without alliance, you have complete control of all the authority, you can amend laws without asking anybody else

if 18th amendment doesnt work then by all means remove it dear

but like previous times if there is power problem i will blame PMLN and not someone else, isnt that what metro bus guy was doing? blaming PPP all along

some how incompetent people are on the driving seat now, they need to drive carefully

other wise i dont think you even have five years