Pak livid over UN group's report on 'enforced disappearances' in country

[ajtr]

Your terrorist is my freedom fighter...and vice versa..

Has UNSC declared BLA a terrorist outfit ?? I am pretty sure they have declared a bunch of Pakistani militants groups operating in Kashmir like LeT as terror outfit...

UN even didnt declare maoists as terrorists where you indians get too jumpy about it and calling them as terrorists.

 

[Kompromat]

Claims can have agendas but video what aeronaut has posted i not agenda.Its pure evidence of what india is upto in balochistan.And looking at india's past records in east pakistan and SL training mukti bhahini and LTTE I for once wont discount what pakistanis say about RAW's involvement in balochistan and elsewhere in pakistan.Surjeet singh and sarabjeet singh are just two live examples of india's terror activities in pakistan.there can be many more.India koi doodh ka dhula nahi hai.

As, per my own information, there is a strong belief in the intel agencies that until the US is present in Afghanistan, India will have a friendly turf to play on and they will keep funding and arming their proxies inside Pakistan. Therefore, ISI is in negotiations with Pentagon as we speak to outflank India in Afghanistan.There might be, a doubt in people's minds but the intel has a firm belief that we are in a state of war against India in Afghanistan.

ISI has long treated Afghanistan as a battleground between Pakistan and India as Indian establishment will not dare an overt assault on Pakistan. For them, Balkanization of Pakistan is a fantasy which they obsessively try to achieve by investment in 4th generation warfare, unaware of the fact that if which is a big if Pakistan goes down it will take India with it!

Afghanistan is our home turf, a lot depends on it, BLA terror is just an instrument of US-Indian foreign policy agenda to contain China --However, Downstream, Pakistan has a trump card which Indo-US nexus don't & we will throw our gambit when the rod is hot red.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/afghan...ief-presents-his-afghanistan-roadmap-usa.html

 

[KRAIT]

Our courts don't prosecute them, [Don't know why] - most of them have been sent to see God.

If courts doesn't prosecute them, then

Are there Extra Judicial Killings ? Who kills them ?

Are their bodies given to their relatives or throw on road or buried in mass graves.

 

[ajtr]

As, per my own information, there is a strong belief in the intel agencies that until the US is present in Afghanistan, India will have a friendly turf to play on and they will keep funding and arming their proxies inside Pakistan. Therefore, ISI is in negotiations with Pentagon as we speak to outflank India in Afghanistan.There might be, a doubt in people's minds but the intel has a firm belief that we are in a state of war against India in Afghanistan.

ISI has long treated Afghanistan as a battleground between Pakistan and India as Indian establishment will not dare an overt assault on Pakistan. For them, Balkanization of Pakistan is a fantasy which they obsessively try to achieve by investment.

Afghanistan is our home turf, a lot depends on it, BLA terror is just an instrument of US-Indian foreign policy agenda to contain China --However, Downstream, Pakistan has a trump card & we will throw our gambit when the rod is red.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/afghan...ief-presents-his-afghanistan-roadmap-usa.html

I've read about Gen.Ehsan was at SD and its not mere coincidence that Gen.Ehsan was in washington and Gen.Kiyani was in Moscow almost at the same time.What i make out is there gonna be major alignment which will come to light with in next 6-12 months in this region.Indians are missing the woods for trees in all russia related threads.

 

[Kompromat]

If courts doesn't prosecute them, then

Are there Extra Judicial Killings ? Who kills them ?

Are their bodies given to their relatives or throw on road or buried in mass graves.

When judiciary is not interested in its work then, the threats to national security will be eliminated in a way we like. If the they start prosecuting them, it will stop.

Who kills them? - Bullets

Bodies- They are sent back to those who trained them in Afghanistan, after total circumcision.

 

[karan.1970]

UN even didnt declare maoists as terrorists where you indians get too jumpy about it and calling them as terrorists.

But we dont try and force other people to accept that they are terrorists.. Unlike you trying to force the terrorist tag on Balochistan freedom fighters without gaining any acceptance of that stand from an international agency or UN....

As, per my own information, there is a strong belief in the intel agencies that until the US is present in Afghanistan, India will have a friendly turf to play on and they will keep funding and arming their proxies inside Pakistan. Therefore, ISI is in negotiations with Pentagon as we speak to outflank India in Afghanistan.There might be, a doubt in people's minds but the intel has a firm belief that we are in a state of war against India in Afghanistan.

ISI has long treated Afghanistan as a battleground between Pakistan and India as Indian establishment will not dare an overt assault on Pakistan. For them, Balkanization of Pakistan is a fantasy which they obsessively try to achieve by investment in 4th generation warfare, unaware of the fact that if which is a big if Pakistan goes down it will take India with it!

Afghanistan is our home turf, a lot depends on it, BLA terror is just an instrument of US-Indian foreign policy agenda to contain China --However, Downstream, Pakistan has a trump card which Indo-US nexus don't & we will throw our gambit when the rod is hot red.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/afghan...ief-presents-his-afghanistan-roadmap-usa.html

I think you are talking about Zaid Hamid's beliefs more than intelligence community's beliefs here.

I've read about Gen.Ehsan was at SD and its not mere coincidence that Gen.Ehsan was in washington and Gen.Kiyani was in Moscow almost at the same time.What i make out is there gonna be major alignment which will come to light with in next 6-12 months in this region.Indians are missing the woods for trees in all russia related threads.

Jaat Mara tab jaaniye, jab tehrvee ho jaaye...

All of us are going to be here in next 6-12 months as well...

 

[karan.1970]

When judiciary is not interested in its work then, the threats to national security will be eliminated in a way we like. If the they start prosecuting them, it will stop.

Who kills them? - Bullets

Bodies- They are sent back to those who trained them in Afghanistan, after total circumcision.

And you guys cry foul about mass graves in Kashmir ??

 

[Kompromat]

I've read about Gen.Ehsan was at SD and its not mere coincidence that Gen.Ehsan was in washington and Gen.Kiyani was in Moscow almost at the same time.What i make out is there gonna be major alignment which will come to light with in next 6-12 months in this region.Indians are missing the woods for trees in all russia related threads.

If, you didn't notice - ISI officers never retire. Gen-Ehsan is ruthless negotiator and this is why he is the one doing it & he is not alone, he has a team.

I, sometimes get nostalgic - if the ISI General Akhtar Abdul Rehman [The Soviet Killer] hadn't die early, what would have Afghanistan looked like today.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...akhtar-abdul-rahman-architect-death-ussr.html

Akhtar Abdur Rahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ajtr]

But we dont try and force other people to accept that they are terrorists.. Unlike you trying to force the terrorist tag on Balochistan freedom fighters without gaining any acceptance of that stand from an international agency or UN....

First thing first.....BLA is terror organisation.
2nd maoists and kashmiris fighting in J&K are not terrorists
3rd you have imposed terrorists tag on kashmiris/maoists/khalistanis.

 

[Kompromat]

And you guys cry foul about mass graves in Kashmir ??

I, warned you not to bring Kashmir in this thread. Take the argument to the relevant board and i will tell you the difference.

 

[ajtr]

If, you didn't notice - ISI officers never retire. Gen-Ehsan is ruthless negotiator and this is why he is the one doing it & he is not alone, he has a team.

I, sometimes get nostalgic - if the ISI General Akhtar Abdul Rehman [The Soviet Killer] hadn't die early, what would have Afghanistan looked like today.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...akhtar-abdul-rahman-architect-death-ussr.html

Akhtar Abdur Rahman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New things to learn daily...good.

 

[Kompromat]

New things to learn daily...good.

He, was officially hated by KGB.

 

[KRAIT]

When judiciary is not interested in its work then, the threats to national security will be eliminated in a way we like. If the they start prosecuting them, it will stop.

Who kills them? - Bullets

Bodies- They are sent back to those who trained them in Afghanistan, after total circumcision.

That was I expecting. You have given me a reply that I will use against AJTR or other posters every time when they questions what IA do.

Thanks a lot buddy.

 

[Kompromat]

That was I expecting. You have given me a reply that I will use against AJTR or other posters every time when they questions what IA do.

Thanks a lot buddy.

Sure, lets hope everyone else is just dumb to take it in a different setting. Plus, i like the naked version, no BS , no diplomacy.

 

[karan.1970]

First thing first.....BLA is terror organisation.
2nd maoists and kashmiris fighting in J&K are not terrorists
3rd you have imposed terrorists tag on kashmiris/maoists/khalistanis.

Unless you show me BLA as a UNSC designated terrorist agency, you are just ranting.. And if I am not wrong, isnt Musharraf being tried for murder for killing one of the senior BLA leaders.. If BLA is a terror outfit, then why is the ex president of Pakistan being tried for killing one of their leaders??

And about the rest, well, Maoists are not terrorists and you can look up the status of your other favorite groups in the terrorist list of UNSC