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NEW DELHI: Government on Wednesday informed Rajya Sabha that Pakistan has been improving its administrative infrastructure and defence works, including observation capability, along the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir.

Minister of state for home affairs Mullapally Ramachandran said this in response to a question whether there was substantial construction activity by Pakistan along the LoC.:devil:

About measures taken by India, the minister said India had installed high-quality lighting cables and other equipment for the anti-infiltration obstacle system and the bunds in the riverine sector along the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir and the system was fully operational.:tup::tup::tup:

"The anti-infiltration obstacle system and bunds are regularly checked for their operability and maintenance of the same is carried out to ensure their serviceability at all times," he said.

Pak building infrastructure along LoC, RS told - The Times of India
 
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Line of control is the international border. Pak can build wat it wants.

LIKEWISE

india can do wat it wants the other side.

THIS WILL BE THE BORDER and end of the matter EVENTUALLY
 
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Line of control is the international border. Pak can build wat it wants.

LIKEWISE

india can do wat it wants the other side.

THIS WILL BE THE BORDER and end of the matter EVENTUALLY
The world considers it a disputed territory and not international border ... You can continue parroting your Govt's official stances :pakistan:
 
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The world considers it a disputed territory and not international border ... You can continue parroting your Govt's official stances :pakistan:

Yeah the dispute is pakistan occupying P O K illegally and the whole world knows it, thats why they dont give two hoots about your crying. :sick:
 
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The UN resolutions state otherwise ... As i said before , continue parroting your Govt's stance ... :tup:

Keep waging your proxy wars keep sending your brainwashed terrorists to infiltrate the LOC and try and re-claim I O K, nothing is going to happen. Just some good target practice for the IA, on the contrary Its Pakistan that is making all the noises please judge for yourself who is a parrot. We have been hearing the same CHEST thumping for 60+ odd years :coffee:
 
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Keep waging your proxy wars keep sending your brainwashed terrorists to infiltrate the LOC and try and re-claim I O K, nothing is going to happen. Just some good target practice for the IA, on the contrary Its Pakistan that is making all the noises please judge for yourself who is a parrot. We have been hearing the same CHEST thumping for 60+ odd years :coffee:
When even the popular Kashmiri opinion is against you , you cant say that nothing is going to happen ... If the Pakistani flag is hoisted at Lal Chowk , Srinagar then judge for yourself who's chest thumping at the moment ... As i tell Indians regularly , just wait and watch
 
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When even the popular Kashmiri opinion is against you , you cant say that nothing is going to happen ... If the Pakistani flag is hoisted at Lal Chowk , Srinagar then judge for yourself who's chest thumping at the moment ... As i tell Indians regularly , just wait and watch

dude your making me fall asleep wake me up when that happens:lazy:
 
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When even the popular Kashmiri opinion is against you , you cant say that nothing is going to happen ... If the Pakistani flag is hoisted at Lal Chowk , Srinagar then judge for yourself who's chest thumping at the moment ... As i tell Indians regularly , just wait and watch

Time to forget Kashmir – The Express Tribune

Time to forget Kashmir

A few days ago, Indian Prime Minster Dr Manmohan Singh suggested that Pakistan should leave the Kashmir issue alone and focus on its own internal problems. This idea led to the usual protests in Pakistan. If we excise our pathological fear and dislike of anything Indian (at least officially), does this statement still seem outrageous?

Let me quote another politician. In a recent interview, Maulana Fazlur Rehman remarked on Kashmir: “Obviously, we are in favour of a political solution… Things have changed so much. Now the concept of wining Kashmir has taken a back seat to the urgency of saving Pakistan.” Does this comment sound better and sensible? Things have indeed changed a lot during the last 60 years and we need to take cognisance of the changed scenario and adjust accordingly.

Nearly 64 years ago, when Indian troops landed in Kashmir on October 27, 1947, Pakistan refused to accept the accession of Kashmir to India on grounds that the wishes of the people of the state had not been ascertained. This was certainly the rightful moral position. As a matter of fact, when India refused to accept the legal accession of Junagadh to Pakistan and occupied the state on November 9, 1947, Pakistan only resorted to indignant protests, as it knew that the vast majority of its Hindu population were eager to join India. Pakistan had obviously hoped that India would apply the same principle to Kashmir — something which both Nehru and Mountbatten promised to do.

However, our moral high ground is now leading us to political and economic suicide. It is a no-brainer that if Pakistan had not embarked on a costly confrontation with India over Kashmir, the military would not have been so strengthened as to take over the government four times. It is also no secret that if the conflict with India had not been present, we would have had no reason to spend over half of our budget on defence and that our country would have easily been a high middle-income country by now.

These historical reasons aside, now there are several more complicating factors. Pakistan is under a severe attack from terrorists almost every day, its economy is extremely shaky and its politics is corrupt, fractured and baseless. While accurate economic indicators are hard to obtain, it is clear that despite being practically a war zone since 1989, Indian Kashmir has managed a higher literacy, economic growth and per capita income rate than most of Pakistan. Thus, why would the Kashmiris want to join Pakistan now? What do we have to offer them any longer?

In 1947-8, Pakistan was a new country, full of ambition and striving to become a progressive homeland for the Muslims of South Asia. In that context, the Kashmiris naturally felt an affinity towards their Muslim brethren in Pakistan and wanted to join them. Since then, official Pakistan has time and again shown its contempt for diversity within the national polity and the East Pakistan, Baloch and anti-Pakhtunistan operations are a clear example of the state’s unwillingness to accept true provincial autonomy.

Therefore, unless we put our own house in order first, we should not harbour any grand ideas about attaining Indian Kashmir. It is ludicrous to hope to incorporate a large territory, with a different development trajectory over the last six decades, when parts of our own country are not under the government’s control, and when most people in Pakistan are worrying about its dire economic and security situation.

Moreover, if not for our sake, we should shelf our hawkish stance on Kashmir for the sake of the 140 million Indian Muslims. If the government is really concerned about the suffering Muslims of Kashmir, it should also care about the suffering of the millions of Muslims in India proper who are suffering (among other things) the suspicion being Muslim brings in a Hindu majority state due to the antagonistic attitude of Pakistan.

Kashmiris deserve their right of self-determination, but that should certainly not come at the cost of our own survival and not when all that we will be able to offer them is a failed state.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 5th, 2011.

The writer is a historian at Keble College, University of Oxford


Reading this looks like COMMON SENSE PREVAILS.
 
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Nearly 64 years ago, when Indian troops landed in Kashmir on October 27, 1947, Pakistan refused to accept the accession of Kashmir to India on grounds that the wishes of the people of the state had not been ascertained. This was certainly the rightful moral position. As a matter of fact, when India refused to accept the legal accession of Junagadh to Pakistan and occupied the state on November 9, 1947, Pakistan only resorted to indignant protests, as it knew that the vast majority of its Hindu population were eager to join India. Pakistan had obviously hoped that India would apply the same principle to Kashmir — something which both Nehru and Mountbatten promised to do.



Kashmiris deserve their right of self-determination


Did you bother reading it ? :azn:


Arundhati Roy calls for end to Indian ‘occupation’ of Kashmir
NEW YORK, Nov 12 (APP): Renowned Indian novelist and political activist Arundhati Roy Friday made a strong case for Kashmiri people’s right to self-determination before an American audience, with an impassioned call for an end to the “brutal” Indian occupation of Kashmir. “I think that the people of Kashmir have the right to self- determination—they have the right to choose who they want to be, and how they want to be,” she said in the course of a discussion on ‘Kashmir: The Case for Freedom’ at Asia Society. “Kashmir is one of the most protracted and bloody occupations in the world and one of the most ignored,” Roy told a large number of people jampacking an auditorium. “While India brutalizes Kashmir in so many ways, that occupation brutalizes the Indians,” said. “It (the occupation) turns us into a people who
are able to bear a kind of morally reprehensible behaviour done in our name, and the fact that so few Indians will stand up and say anything about it is such a sad thing.”

She called for the demilitarization of Kashmir as a step towards peace in the region. “Why the international community doesn’t see that when you have two nuclear-armed states, like Pakistan and India, there couldn’t be a better thing than a buffer state like Kashmir between them, instead of it being a conflict that is going to spark a nuclear war.”
In her remarks, she lamented the fact that so little is known about the atrocities being committed by more than half a million Indian troops, the continuing repression and indignities let loose on Kashmiri men, women and children.
More than 700,000 troops were concentrated in the tiny valley, with check points at every nook and corner of Kashmiri towns and cities, The huge Indian presence is in sharp contrast with 160,000 US troops in Iraq, she pointed out.


Arundhati Roy calls for end to Indian ‘occupation’ of Kashmir
 
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Did you bother reading it ?

Of course I did since it’s a Pakistani writer I am applauding his common sense and attitude to seek a better resolution by concentrating on what Pakistan needs most that is peace, stability & robust economy. Though I don’t agree with everything he has written in it, but what else can I expect from a Pakistani, he will obviously support Pakistani till the end & that is Kashmir is Pakistan’s and yarda yarda yarda.

Have you read it yourself? You have 1 positive outlook compared to so many negative one. Go ahead bury your head in the sand like ostrich clinging to the optimism it isn’t going to do jack all. Kashmir was, is and always will be an integral part of INDIA period.

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Nearly 64 years ago, when Indian troops landed in Kashmir on October 27, 1947, Pakistan refused to accept the accession of Kashmir to India on grounds that the wishes of the people of the state had not been ascertained. This was certainly the rightful moral position. As a matter of fact, when India refused to accept the legal accession of Junagadh to Pakistan and occupied the state on November 9, 1947, Pakistan only resorted to indignant protests, as it knew that the vast majority of its Hindu population were eager to join India. Pakistan had obviously hoped that India would apply the same principle to Kashmir — something which both Nehru and Mountbatten promised to do.



Kashmiris deserve their right of self-determination


Did you bother reading it ? :azn:


Arundhati Roy calls for end to Indian ‘occupation’ of Kashmir
NEW YORK, Nov 12 (APP): Renowned Indian novelist and political activist Arundhati Roy Friday made a strong case for Kashmiri people’s right to self-determination before an American audience, with an impassioned call for an end to the “brutal” Indian occupation of Kashmir. “I think that the people of Kashmir have the right to self- determination—they have the right to choose who they want to be, and how they want to be,” she said in the course of a discussion on ‘Kashmir: The Case for Freedom’ at Asia Society. “Kashmir is one of the most protracted and bloody occupations in the world and one of the most ignored,” Roy told a large number of people jampacking an auditorium. “While India brutalizes Kashmir in so many ways, that occupation brutalizes the Indians,” said. “It (the occupation) turns us into a people who
are able to bear a kind of morally reprehensible behaviour done in our name, and the fact that so few Indians will stand up and say anything about it is such a sad thing.”

She called for the demilitarization of Kashmir as a step towards peace in the region. “Why the international community doesn’t see that when you have two nuclear-armed states, like Pakistan and India, there couldn’t be a better thing than a buffer state like Kashmir between them, instead of it being a conflict that is going to spark a nuclear war.”
In her remarks, she lamented the fact that so little is known about the atrocities being committed by more than half a million Indian troops, the continuing repression and indignities let loose on Kashmiri men, women and children.
More than 700,000 troops were concentrated in the tiny valley, with check points at every nook and corner of Kashmiri towns and cities, The huge Indian presence is in sharp contrast with 160,000 US troops in Iraq, she pointed out.


Arundhati Roy calls for end to Indian ‘occupation’ of Kashmir

ah yes roy! The falled angel, you gotta be kidding me to take her word the backstabbing bit ch. :disagree:
 
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nothing has changed in those 6 decades, Kashmiris already know that Pakistanis are with them ---and will support them through any means possible.

As Pakistanis and as Muslims it is a sacred duty....
 
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nothing has changed in those 6 decades, Kashmiris already know that Pakistanis are with them ---and will support them through any means possible.

As Pakistanis and as Muslims it is a sacred duty....

And nothing will. You will keep "supporting" them as your parents did, then your children will, then their children. And all that time, kashmiris will live and prosper as Indians.:yahoo:


Oh and by the way, I don't think sending in a few terrorists once in a while really counts as "support" to anybody, except for the people back home who live and thrive on that activity. And your own army, which thrives on that issue to rule your society. Which is what the author of the article explains.
 
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