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If its true, its good to know Pakistan Army will go into enemy territory and kill supporters of terrorism... Only if its true.

I strongly support the Air Force joining in and pounding Indian consulates and Embassies in Afghanistan with bombs.

very good we can expect only this from pakistan ... thts the reason when any terrorist activity happen any where in the world so pakistans name found in that ... and finally who has to suffer .. i think u ..

Ur tiny airforce till now u dont have 616 blk 52 so till now u dont have 4th Gen plane .. and i also support you please send your air force

if u can :lol::lol:
 
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If its true, its good to know Pakistan Army will go into enemy territory and kill supporters of terrorism... Only if its true.

I strongly support the Air Force joining in and pounding Indian consulates and Embassies in Afghanistan with bombs.

Reading comments from an Admin, I expected little neutral stand anyway..u have seen in Member's forum what has happened, they are making fun of Hindus gods(Not my religion) and when someone draw picture of Prophet Mohammad you people have problem and entice violence.

Same with the case wrt to Israel attacking that aid ship, Israel consider that convey against the interest of state of Israel and they attacked it's just like what Pakistan did in Afghanistan and it wasn't only consulate people but also Doctors being Killed which were helping your so called Muslim brothers in Afghanistan.

I think people should shun one sided hypocrisy. No one is Saint in this world. Trying to show India in bad light and Pakistan as innocent is totally wrong, any neutral person can easily judge that.
 
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This thread Looks Nasty , is there any unbiased International media reporting it?

Pakistanis Aided Attack in Kabul, U.S. Officials Say

WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded that members of Pakistan’s powerful spy service helped plan the deadly July 7 bombing of India’s embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, according to United States government officials.
The conclusion was based on intercepted communications between Pakistani intelligence officers and militants who carried out the attack, the officials said, providing the clearest evidence to date that Pakistani intelligence officers are actively undermining American efforts to combat militants in the region.

The American officials also said there was new information showing that members of the Pakistani intelligence service were increasingly providing militants with details about the American campaign against them, in some cases allowing militants to avoid American missile strikes in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

Concerns about the role played by Pakistani intelligence not only has strained relations between the United States and Pakistan, a longtime ally, but also has fanned tensions between Pakistan and its archrival, India. Within days of the bombings, Indian officials accused the Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, of helping to orchestrate the attack in Kabul, which killed 54, including an Indian defense attaché.

This week, Pakistani troops clashed with Indian forces in the contested region of Kashmir, threatening to fray an uneasy cease-fire that has held since November 2003.

The New York Times reported this week that a top Central Intelligence Agency official traveled to Pakistan this month to confront senior Pakistani officials with information about support provided by members of the ISI to militant groups. It had not been known that American intelligence agencies concluded that elements of Pakistani intelligence provided direct support for the attack in Kabul.

American officials said that the communications were intercepted before the July 7 bombing, and that the C.I.A. emissary, Stephen R. Kappes, the agency’s deputy director, had been ordered to Islamabad, Pakistan’s capital, even before the attack. The intercepts were not detailed enough to warn of any specific attack.

The government officials were guarded in describing the new evidence and would not say specifically what kind of assistance the ISI officers provided to the militants. They said that the ISI officers had not been renegades, indicating that their actions might have been authorized by superiors.

“It confirmed some suspicions that I think were widely held,” one State Department official with knowledge of Afghanistan issues said of the intercepted communications. “It was sort of this ‘aha’ moment. There was a sense that there was finally direct proof.”

The information linking the ISI to the bombing of the Indian Embassy was described in interviews by several American officials with knowledge of the intelligence. Some of the officials expressed anger that elements of Pakistan’s government seemed to be directly aiding violence in Afghanistan that had included attacks on American troops.

Some American officials have begun to suggest that Pakistan is no longer a fully reliable American partner and to advocate some unilateral American action against militants based in the tribal areas.

The ISI has long maintained ties to militant groups in the tribal areas, in part to court allies it can use to contain Afghanistan’s power. In recent years, Pakistan’s government has also been concerned about India’s growing influence inside Afghanistan, including New Delhi’s close ties to the government of Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president.

American officials say they believe that the embassy attack was probably carried out by members of a network led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani, whose alliance with Al Qaeda and its affiliates has allowed the terrorist network to rebuild in the tribal areas.

American and Pakistani officials have now acknowledged that President Bush on Monday confronted Pakistan’s prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, about the divided loyalties of the ISI.

Pakistan’s defense minister, Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar, told a Pakistani television network on Wednesday that Mr. Bush asked senior Pakistani officials this week, “ ‘Who is in control of ISI?’ ” and asked about leaked information that tipped militants to surveillance efforts by Western intelligence services.

Pakistan’s new civilian government is wrestling with these very issues, and there is concern in Washington that the civilian leaders will be unable to end a longstanding relationship between members of the ISI and militants associated with Al Qaeda.

Spokesmen for the White House and the C.I.A. declined to comment for this article. Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States, Husain Haqqani, did not return a call seeking comment.

Further underscoring the tension between Pakistan and its Western allies, Britain’s senior military officer said in Washington on Thursday that an American and British program to help train Pakistan’s Frontier Corps in the tribal areas had been delayed while Pakistan’s military and civilian officials sorted out details about the program’s goals.

Britain and the United States had each offered to send about two dozen military trainers to Pakistan later this summer to train Pakistani Army officers who in turn would instruct the Frontier Corps paramilitary forces.

But the British officer, Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup, said the program had been temporarily delayed. “We don’t yet have a firm start date,” he told a small group of reporters. “We’re ready to go.”

The bombing of the Indian Embassy helped to set off a new deterioration in relations between India and Pakistan.

This week, Indian and Pakistani soldiers fired at each other across the Kashmir frontier for more than 12 hours overnight Monday, in what the Indian Army called the most serious violation of a five-year-old cease-fire agreement. The nightlong battle came after one Indian soldier and four Pakistanis were killed along the border between sections of Kashmir that are controlled by India and by Pakistan.

Indian officials say they are equally worried about what is happening on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border because they say the insurgents who are facing off with India in Kashmir and those who target Afghanistan are related and can keep both borders burning at the same time.

India and Afghanistan share close political, cultural and economic ties, and India maintains an active intelligence network in Afghanistan, all of which has drawn suspicion from Pakistani officials.

When asked Thursday about whether the ISI and Pakistani military remained loyal to the country’s civilian government, Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, sidestepped the question. “That’s probably something the government of Pakistan ought to speak to,” Admiral Mullen told reporters at the Pentagon.

Jalaluddin Haqqani, the militia commander, battled Soviet troops during the 1980s and has had a long and complicated relationship with the C.I.A. He was among a group of fighters who received arms and millions of dollars from the C.I.A. during that period, but his allegiance with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda during the following decade led the United States to sever the relationship.

Mr. Haqqani and his sons now run a network that Western intelligence services say they believe is responsible for a campaign of violence throughout Afghanistan, including the Indian Embassy bombing and an attack on the Serena Hotel in Kabul earlier this year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/world/asia/01pstan.html
 
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If its true, its good to know Pakistan Army will go into enemy territory and kill supporters of terrorism... Only if its true.

I strongly support the Air Force joining in and pounding Indian consulates and Embassies in Afghanistan with bombs.

Sorry but even Zardari can't make PAF non-state actors. Although I do hope with present Pakistani mindset that they will do something like that.

Once again, if it's true it's indeed a shameless act, though wouldn't call it the same if they follow what Asim sahib advised.
 
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Well i have spend nearly 2 decades of my life among army officers, and I have never come across names of officers having Hazrat in them & that also with such frequency all of them together at one place.

Fateh Hazrat Abdul Razzaq Ali (Seems like some far eastern country's used name), Hazrat Bilal, Hazrat Abdul Gafar Ali and Sardar Mohammed. All Hazrats, are they brothers or is it a coincidence.

More likely Indian made up names just like Mumbai ones.

If he is a Pakistani captain, why not produce him infront of the media, why not he tells his PA number and where he served and in which units, so that it can be authenticated.

Pakistani members, can you guys kindly quote how many Hazrats have you known in your life in Pakistan, as I recall non in my years at school, college & university and then in professional life.

BS report, just to not let down the war mongering attitude by the Indian media.


Hummm let me count. Ah not a single one in my whole school, college or university life.
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Useless thread.

As for a very senior member, please do attack our consulates in a foreign land.
Now compare it with recent Turkry-Israel conflict and we will see. :lol:
 
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Useless thread.

As for a very senior member, please do attack our consulates in a foreign land.
Now compare it with recent Turkry-Israel conflict and we will see. :lol:

no they have double standards they call isreal terrorist but their real terrorist are freedom fighter
 
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Attacking Indian assets in other countries would invite the similar attacks on Pakistani interests.

Damn we need some quick training from Israel.
 
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no they have double standards they call isreal terrorist but their real terrorist are freedom fighter

Not just Israel please include

  1. US
  2. UK
  3. Europe
  4. Russians
  5. Indians
  6. Arabs

The whole world is a terrorist organization.
 
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Sorry your welcoming staff is bellow standard for us to even think of seeing them.

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Useless thread.

As for a very senior member, please do attack our consulates in a foreign land.
Now compare it with recent Turkry-Israel conflict and we will see. :lol:

If Bhartis are blind and can not differentiate between an unarmed humanitarian convoy carrying aid for the helpless people and between the Indian terror camps in Afghanistan then we cant help.

But anyway Terrorist State of Israel is being supported by terrorist state of India even when the entire world is raged over this barbaric attack
 
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