PAF's Fifth Generation Technology

[Ali Abdul Rehman]

AoA! Can anyone please elaborate the difference between "Project Azm" & Block IV??? JazakALLAH

 

[NA71]

No need to open new thread ....JazakAllah

 

[Sine Nomine]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/project-azm-stealth-ambition-project.522011/page-82#post-12191783

 

[Ali Abdul Rehman]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/project-azm-stealth-ambition-project.522011/page-82#post-12191783

My question was how can we differentiate Block IV from Project Azm? Just Like Chinese have differentiated J20 nd FC31 in terms of both technology as well as in Marketing Terms.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

AoA! Can anyone please elaborate the difference between "Project Azm" & Block IV??? JazakALLAH

Maybe difference between F 16 Blk 70/72 and F22/F35

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

JazakALLAH

"May God reward you [with] goodness."

- PRTP GWD

 

[Sine Nomine]

My question was how can we differentiate Block IV from Project Azm? Just Like Chinese have differentiated J20 nd FC31 in terms of both technology as well as in Marketing Terms.

We don't have any block IV on offical level,Blk 3 is still in testing phase.

 

[capricorn5192]

Block IV can be semi stealth with minimized RCS like Rafael with more use of composites while Project AZM means fifth generation or above fifth generation because as per CAS, our 5th generation jet will have directed energy weapons e.g. F-35 is a fifth generation jet but it is yet to test its laser weapons

It is my personal opinion and not based on any info or knowledge

 

[SD 10]

Block IV can be semi stealth with minimized RCS like Rafael with more use of composites while Project AZM means fifth generation or above fifth generation because as per CAS, our 5th generation jet will have directed energy weapons e.g. F-35 is a fifth generation jet but it is yet to test its laser weapons

It is my personal opinion and not based on any info or knowledge

He said it will be able to field energy weapons not as will have energy weapons.

 

[capricorn5192]

He said it will be able to field energy weapons not as will have energy weapons.

Quote CAS Statement:-

The Chief of Air Staff further added that the current Air Staff Requirements (ASR) for the 5th generation fighter jet, which include “twin-engine single-seater, boasting the likes of super-cruise and laser weapons (directed energy weapons)

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...ry-own-fifth-gen-stealth-fighter-jet-program/

 

[Ultima Thule]

Block IV can be semi stealth with minimized RCS like Rafael with more use of composites while Project AZM means fifth generation or above fifth generation because as per CAS, our 5th generation jet will have directed energy weapons e.g. F-35 is a fifth generation jet but it is yet to test its laser weapons

It is my personal opinion and not based on any info or knowledge

there is no official block 4 and never will be because if this version will enters mass production let suppose production will start at 2025/2028 than it will become already obsolete in term of capabilities as compare RAFALE

 

[Shabi1]

there is no official block 4 and never will be because if this version will enters mass production let suppose production will start at 2025/2028 than it will become already obsolete in term of capabilities as compare RAFALE

Actually there will be and there are hints from official sources that there will be future blocks as technology is not static JF-17 will get upgrades, but it wont be something radically new. Just a update to the Block-3 internal systems. Same as we got blk-2 from blk-1. Expect a new Block after every 50 JF-17 batch production as long as we are making them.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Actually there will be and there are hints from official sources that there will be future blocks as technology is not static JF-17 will get upgrades, but it wont be something radically new. Just a update to the Block-3 internal systems. Same as we got blk-2 from blk-1. Expect a new Block after every 50 JF-17 batch production as long as we are making them.

thank you sir,But other senior members here on PDF telling us PAF requirements of block-3 will be 100-150

 

[Shabi1]

thank you sir,But other senior members here on PDF telling us PAF requirements of block-3 will be 100-150

As I said it would just be a update to the Block-3 nothing externally different. We want to have 100+ block-3s but with the current rate of production achieving 50 units will take 3-4yrs. Technology evolves, so they will roll out a updated model because better parts will be available, its a practical necessity.
Also 50 aircraft block approach has been quoted by several PAF sources.

 

[Ultima Thule]

My question was how can we differentiate Block IV from Project Azm? Just Like Chinese have differentiated J20 nd FC31 in terms of both technology as well as in Marketing Terms.

Currently there is no block-4 former ACM told us their will be no further blocks after block-3, If you assuming block-4 will be the stealth version of JF-17 than you are living in your fairy tails, because if PAF want to make stealth version of JF-17 aka Block-4 then it will be no more JF-17 but totally different and new project because it will be externally and internally different from original JF-17 if there is plan to develop block-4 it will be similar upgrades to block-3 (AESA/AVIONICS) UPGRADE, AT BEST IF THERE IS A PLAN TO DEVELOP BLOCK-4 ITS SIMILAR TO F-16 BLOCK-70/72 AND F-22 (AZM)