PAF will allow international media access to entire F-16 fleet to prove its claim

[Mav3rick]

Although that I believe it is a good idea to have our fleet of F-16's accounted for, not by the media though but by Lockheed Martin. However, at the end of the day, I am confident that IAF, Indian Military & Government are well aware of what happened.

And what I can guarantee is, had the Mig-21 been able to down one of our F-16's; the Indian Government and IAF would have initiated a full scale war with Pakistan with the confidence that even their Bison's could shoot down Falcons.........I would have done it, if not that then atleast a massive, repeated and exhausting attack on PAF for air dominance and for decimation of PAF once and for all.

But what happened later on is eye popping evidence of what really happened. The reality ofcourse is that IAF & Indian Government got a brutal reality check when even the pride of their country the mighty SU-30MKI was shot down, not by a Falcon but by a Thunder, along with an upgraded Bison being flown by one of top IAF pilots.

So, naturally, the Indian Government & Military immediately decided to scale down the hostilities as the outcome was not in their favor. Not just that, IAF and the Government are pissed at being unable to acquire Rafael........and so the Indian Prime Minister vented his frustration on the media and in that frustration he clearly indicated that not having Rafael made all the difference to the outcome of the conflict as PAF's Thunders proved to be too much for IAF's MKI's and Bisons!

P.S. The Indian PM must be enlightened that PAF would not be sitting idle while IAF acquires Rafael and by the time IAF inducts Rafael, PAF may well be inducting J-31!

 

[Lincoln]

Establishment doesn't even allow visa to foreign media, leave the rest. No country will parade it's military assets, nor it's required. Media houses will have to take the face value given by government authorities. They can go ahead and do there research to prove there point.

Did Pakistan declared all its nuclear facilities and assets? The major difference is that people from Pakistan can move out and express there views, otherwise it's as much military controled as North Korea, and that's why elected govt is not able to clear up terrorist mess, as they are controlled by the military, which at times go rouge against establishment.

That's why globally people find difficult to take all the good words coming from Imran Khan

Pakistan has done it with its Mirages after 71, as well as C130s before. So, that shoots down your claim.

And declaring nuclear facilities is very different from Aircrafts.

Again, take this all with a grain of salt, it is a tweet after all, I thought it would be worth sharing since PAF has done it before. Only time will tell.

Although that I believe it is a good idea to have our fleet of F-16's accounted for, not by the media though but by Lockheed Martin. However, at the end of the day, I am confident that IAF, Indian Military & Government are well aware of what happened.

And what I can guarantee is, had the Mig-21 been able to down one of our F-16's; the Indian Government and IAF would have initiated a full scale war with Pakistan with the confidence that even their Bison's could shoot down Falcons.........I would have done it, if not that then atleast a massive, repeated and exhausting attack on PAF for air dominance and for decimation of PAF once and for all.

But what happened later on is eye popping evidence of what really happened. The reality ofcourse is that IAF & Indian Government got a brutal reality check when even the pride of their country the mighty SU-30MKI was shot down, not by a Falcon but by a Thunder, along with an upgraded Bison being flown by one of top IAF pilots.

So, naturally, the Indian Government & Military immediately decided to scale down the hostilities as the outcome was not in their favor. Not just that, IAF and the Government are pissed at being unable to acquire Rafael........and so the Indian Prime Minister vented his frustration on the media and in that frustration he clearly indicated that not having Rafael made all the difference to the outcome of the conflict as PAF's Thunders proved to be too much for IAF's MKI's and Bisons!

P.S. The Indian PM must be enlightened that PAF would not be sitting idle while IAF acquires Rafael and by the time IAF inducts Rafael, PAF may well be inducting J-31!

I have talked to a friend who has 'connections to PAF', he has told me with certainty that we did not lose any F-16, and PAF did indeed shoot down 2 IAF jets.

 

[Blueskiez 2001]

A fly pas of all 76 F-16 the 23rd march would do it

 

[Daghalodi]

You are getting carried away... their are proof of...

1 MiG 21 Bison downed
1 Indian pilot captured and returned
1 helicopter is downed
AIM 120 fired... Thus, F 16 was used...

Rest is propaganda for me... as there are no proof for other claims...

Initially 2 pilots were captured by Pakistan... but one is untraceable now...

You are a NOBODY!!

So its doesn't matter whats propaganda or proof for you, there is enough evidence for everyone to see me

 

[Knight Rider]

Indians along with their rubbish media are the most Sinful Liars present on this planet. This is a great move to humiliate them in the world.

 

[aman_rai]

Because of severe indian propaganda. Remember the report that says, India is the top producer of fake news in the world.

It's understandable... Every country have its opinion and propaganda...
But Pakistan should itself deny any of these...
Why does Pakistan needs to go ahead prove it to anyone.... That too to American??
Pakistani should simply deny any requests or instructions to show the count of f16.. Even if it's USA...

 

[YeBeWarned]

I hope IAF do the same with their MKI fleet .

 

[undercover JIX]

whoever asking India to do same.......ab wo apni phati hui sab ko kaisay dikha saktay hain....

 

[American Pakistani]

It's understandable... Every country have its opinion and propaganda...
But Pakistan should itself deny any of these...
Why does Pakistan needs to go ahead prove it to anyone.... That too to American??
Pakistani should simply deny any requests or instructions to show the count of f16.. Even if it's USA...

And let india spread it's propaganda? Like always?

Sorry, but I strongly support this move and also hope india is pressured to do the same by counting their su30.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Not worth jeopardising our national security to prove a point.

Gooo - gel Earth .... ?

 

[krash]

There is precedence, we have done this at least twice before. Post 1971 we invited a journalist to count and take pictures of all our Mirages and after 65 PAF flew its complete feet of F-86s and F-104s in a parade.

Yes we should park all our birds in one place and make it easier for Indians to target them, No thank you. Indian narrative of BS wont stop, we dont need to do any such actions.

It's not a wise idea to put all your F16 assets in one place. There are other ways..

Not sure how this will be carried out but is it wise to have all your F16s parked at one location in a near state of war?

If India gets any ideas that one alleged F16 loss would be seem pretty acceptable

Oh Khudayah. Firstly, this will not happen until the hostilities have subsided. Secondly, you take the journalists to different bases, you don't need to bring every aircraft to a single place and then take a 'group photo' of them. The birds have serial numbers.

Nothing can be more stupid than this!

Hahaha, why? Because it will rob your countrymen of the last remaining lie that they tell themselves to help them sleep at night?

Since no credible evidence is there to prove Downing of second jet... at both ends... I don't want to talk about that...

As I say, prove that to USA... that F16 was not used in aggression... and AIM 120...

Why would we care to prove that to the US? Why would we care to prove that to anyone? Your people made the claim, enjoy the burden of proof.

I just don't understand one thing...
Pakistan as a independent and sovereign state doesn't need to prove anything..
Why will Pakistan prove USA that they have not used f16...
They own it and they have every right to use it... Regardless of any documents...

We are not proving that the F-16s weren't used to anyone. We are providing the proof that no F-16s were ever shot down, as claimed by Indians. Why? For the entertainment of the world. No one gets tired of watching Indians eat their own words while trying to scurry back into their holes. It's just one of those things.

I mean, even the reactions of your countrymen about this possibility are hilarious.

Not going to happen, like North Korea the international journalist doing independent reporting is not possible in Pakistan at least that's what view of reporters here. Media coverage is highly controlled and filtered by agencies for international consumption. Even local media has to face direct indirect control and threats.

See the thing is that unlike IOK, independent journalists are allowed through out the length and breadth of Pakistan. They are also allowed to leave Pakistan and then report whatever they'd like. Apart from the fact that no independent journalist has ever reported anything of the sort.

So while I understand that you must absolutely try to preemptively present an excuse for when the PAF does indeed show its complete inventory of F-16s and exposes the pathetic Indian lies for what they are, I must still advise you not to make an ever bigger fool out of yourself and your countrymen. Don't get me wrong, we Pakistanis love the show but it goes against good taste to watch you do that to yourself over and over and over again.

Establishment doesn't even allow visa to foreign media, leave the rest.

I'm always amazed at how you Indians fabricate absolute nonsense at a moment's notice. I mean your claims are always so stupid that they can be debunked with a single google search. Apart from the countless number of videos by foreign journalists reporting directly from Pakistan every day, I'd just like to give one example. BBC Hindi reporting on ground from Balakot and showing first hand that Indian claims are BS.

I'd seriously recommend that you put some effort into your bs and advise your government to do the same. It is too easy to prove you guys wrong. Or is it some sick masochistic fantasy that keeps you guys going? Also,


https://nation.com.pk/30-Aug-2018/pakistan-to-ease-visa-restrictions-for-foreign-journalists

 

[truthseeker2010]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1101550368289406977

This guy claims that someone he knows in PAF told him that PAF will respond to the false claims. Likely route would be allowing international media access to our F-16 fleet to prove that we lost no F-16 as India claims.

When, where, how? Don't know.

Do take this all with a grain of salt, it is a tweet after all.

It should be on one condition that Iaf does it with Su-30

 

[aman_rai]

And let india spread it's propaganda? Like always?

Sorry, but I strongly support this move and also hope india is pressured to do the same by counting their su30.

No one can force India to give a count of su30...
We don't care about propaganda of other countries

In

We are not proving that the F-16s weren't used to anyone. We are providing the proof that no F-16s were ever shot down, as claimed by Indians. Why? For the entertainment of the world. No one gets tired of watching Indians eat their own words while trying to scurry back into their holes. It's just one of those things.

Entertainment of the world?? Or bending against pressure of USA...
Because USA also knows that if it's indeed true then it's very Baad for the reputation of f16 and in turn it will damage the reputation of USA

 

[YeBeWarned]

No one can force India to give a count of su30...
We don't care about propaganda of other countries

There is a saying in Urdu " Chor ki Dari mai Tinka "

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

It will be foolish to show media our f-16s. No one in the right mind does that.

Burden is on india to prove their claim.

Also lockheed or f-16 manufacterers can be given a short tour of our dual seater f-16s which is a claim by india if we go as low to prove india wrong.

But we have an upper hand why stoop low to make india humiliated even more.

But one thing for us is with all f-16s accounted for thst would mean 2nd aircraft down was a su-30mki downed by jf 17. Or a mig 29.

Lets see which Path is chosen. Even if we stay silent . our point is strong.