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PAF should focus on 5th Generation Fighter Jets now.

Have I committed a crime?


No , you have committed no CRIME...

But you have to understand the context and have a broader Perspective.

Let me explain in terms that you may understand.

Every Air Force in the World wants the best and most technological advanced Jet.

One of the primary limitation is the Financial resources.

Pakistan Air Force wants the same as they are dead serious about having the most Technologically advanced Air Force in the World, but are limited by the available Financial Resources.

With that in mind, please understand that they are trying to get the most advanced Fighters that their budget would allow.

However , the PAF Fifth Generation aircrafts are already on the design board and hopefully should materialize by 2020. Hopefully by then we have the Economy to afford the acquisition of such Technologically advanced Jets.
 
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@Junaid B and where all the money will come from?? o_O

PAF needs 4.5 gen plane much more then a true 5th gen plane as they will be introduced in South Asia after 2020, whereas Saffron Bandits already have more 4 gen planes then our whole air force and they are upgrading them to 4.5 gen and also preparing to induct another 4.5 gen plane in numbers.

As I have mentioned in my first post that, If our government play its vital role to get the resources but unfortunately, the corrupt stock has come once again. As far as resources are concerned, we've got alot Alhamdulilah. In Balochistan, Gold, Oil, Copper & Coal reserve. According to one defence analysist who is very well known in Pakistan has said that, only our Gold reserves is worth of $500 Billion. Now, again this corrupt govt would never play a positive role in that. All we need to wait now. Let these marches decide what comes up.
 
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I believe J-31 is downgraded versions and inferior compared to 5th Generation fighter jets under progress.

No, Pakistan wouldn't receive J-20 which is only for China.

Did Pakistan develop own helicopters to counter internal matters?

No, we DON'T have FUNDS AVAILABLE EVERY YEAR then Pakistan shouldn't look for 5th Generation fighter jets at all.
 
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5th generation is not a luxury ... its a necessacity....funds will come
 
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but to invest in anti 5th gen technology, one should know about the 5th gen technology. or?

Hi,

Knowing 5th gen technology and building an aircraft are two different things---even though they are connected.

Investing in anti 5th gen tech is less expensive and is an extremely feasible proposition to start with.
 
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Hi,

Knowing 5th gen technology and building an aircraft are two different things---even though they are connected.

Investing in anti 5th gen tech is less expensive and is an extremely feasible proposition to start with.

you are absolutely right but my point is to build anti 5th gen aircraft technology... one should be aware of what 5th gen arcrfts are capable of.
 
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Pakistan Airforce & Pakistan Army should be focusing to buy 'Stealth Fighter

I have been saying that all along. Use the JFT tech and know how and then work on JFT Block III and toy with as much 5th gen tech as possible. You can get the Chinese to share that with you for a decent cost. It'll just help you advance leaps and bounds and locally. At the least get ready to explore the 5th gen option with local industry pro-actively so you can produce local tech cheaper.
 
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Pakistan Airforce & Pakistan Army should be focusing to buy 'Stealth Fighter Jets' now because in future, most of the big countries including India have now planning to make their own 5th Generation fighter jets or planning to acquire new one. Most of the countries have already started the production including Russia & China. Buying F-16s and production of JF-17 is not enough. We might have a economy issues but it can be resolved if our government contribute. China might offer its latest 'J-20 Stealth Jets' in future but it depends on our defence policy whether our government is up for it or not. But it is really necessary for our government and our army to start think on this.
Yes and no at same time yes because that is future but no because we need at least 270 JF 17 and should try to increase number off F-16 to 108 and as economy improves we need to go for 72 J-10 C at least if lucky than Euro Fighter but point is we need 3 4.5 Generation platform at least than focus on getting 5th Generation
 
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5th generation is not a luxury ... its a necessacity....funds will come
you know whats neccessasity now is that your country comes out of terrorism and have some government in FATA cause 5th gen fighters are there 2020s not now !
 
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just one question, where is the money coming from?
from op's pocket money

Yes and no at same time yes because that is future but no because we need at least 270 JF 17 and should try to increase number off F-16 to 108 and as economy improves we need to go for 72 J-10 C at least if lucky than Euro Fighter but point is we need 3 4.5 Generation platform at least than focus on getting 5th Generation
j17, j10, f16, EFT,+ j31 anything else? good luck with that...
 
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from op's pocket money


j17, j10, f16, EFT,+ j31 anything else? good luck with that...
I said Euro Fighter or J 10 any one of these ET quite difficult only chance is you refused it so in anger the may agree to sell it to us but our economy needs to improve or J 10 C the upcoming model is quite advanced Jet it is the most easy option but I am sure we need 3 platforms of 4.5 Generation and than starts focusing on 5th Generation
 
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PK best bet would be the J-21 in a few years from now. at the moment the engine is the issue. prototypes are powered by the RD-93 which may be under-powered for this platform.
 
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PK best bet would be the J-21 in a few years from now. at the moment the engine is the issue. prototypes are powered by the RD-93 which may be under-powered for this platform.

WS-13 is the key. But apart from news of it being tested on one of FC-1 prototypes, there is no news available. It is being developed further. But we just do not know where it has gotten to by now.
 
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Whats the hurry for weapons?

No sovereign country would dare mess with Pakistan and the current inventory is more than enough to deal with extremist rabble. Just focus on economy and education, military toys can come later.

Appreciate what you have.
 
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